FSA Think Tank - New Bonus Points System

FutureGuy

Hello all,
I think that, as a group, we could be considered well above average in terms of our FPL Skill.

Anyone interested in taking a good look at the new bonus point system, what it means for players, and what players are likely to register highly on it week in week out?

We can already see a massive change in Bonus Point Ditribution this season. Defenders with clean sheets are getting more bonus than goal scorers. Goalscores on losing teams are getting more bonus than goalscores on winning teams.

So what are some players doing that others are not?

Here's a breakdown of the different ways to gain or lose points on the BPS.

Players score BPS points based on the following statistics (one point for each unless otherwise stated):

•Playing in a game (1 point)
•Playing over 60 minutes (1 point)

•Scoring goals
•Goalkeepers and defenders (4 points)
•Midfielders (6 points)
•Fowards (8 points)
•Assists (3 points)

•Goalkeepers and defenders keeping a clean sheet (4 points)
•Saving a penalty (5 points)
•For every 3 saves (1 point)
•For every 3 open play crosses (1 point)
•Creating a big chance (a chance where the receiving player should score) (1 point)
•For every 8 clearances, blocks and interceptions (total) (1 point)
•For every 8 recoveries (1 point)
•Providing 3 key passes (1 point)
•Making 3 successful tackles (net*) (1 point)
•Scoring the goal that wins a match (1 point)

•Pass Completion (after making at least 30 passes)
•70% completion (1 point)
•80% completion (2 points)
•90% completion (3 points)

*Net successful tackles is the total of all successful tackles minus any unsuccessful tackles. Players will not be awarded negative BPS points for this statistic.

Players lose BPS points based on the following statistics (one point for each unless otherwise stated):

•Conceding a penalty (-1 point)
•Missing a penalty (-2 points)
•Yellow cards (-1 point)
•Red cards (-3 points)
•Own goals (-2 points)
•Missing a big chance (-1 point)
•Making an error which leads to a goal (-1 point)
•Every 2 errors leading to an attempt at goal (-1 point)
•Being tackled 3 times (-1 point)
•Conceding 2 fouls (-1 point)
•Being caught offside 3 times (-1 point)
•Missing the target with 3 shots (-1 point)

One of the things we need is a database which allows us to view all these type of stats. Anyone know of a good site(s)?

For example, Benteke received 3 bonus for scoring last night in a 2-1 defeat where as Ivanovic scored the winning goal but only scored 2 points. This is a mystery to be until we carefully look at the above BPS distribution.

Ivans goal was only worth 4 BPS but Bentekes was worth 8 BPS. So it's easy to see that Benteke came out on top because his goal was worth double.

Another stat I find interesting is that, after 30 passes, a player receives up to 3 BPS for their pass completion. This is perhaps why centrebacks are picking up seemingly unlikely bonus points. Lescott, Hangelaand, Terry and Cahill were all recent bonus recipients even though goalscorers were given less bonus.

I think that if we can identify the players who are hogging the BPS, we can really start the season very well.

Mr.Prodston

I'll have a look myself later but KevIRL has been focusing on BPs the last few days, so a good bit of info in his posts would be relevant here. We can all cobble something together I'd imagine. I'd like 3 GWs worth of sample size before the wildcard comes into play but CBs seem like magnets as a simplistic and obvious first observation.

SantryRed

I find it odd that strikers get more for scoring goals than defenders.

kennyb3

Looking at those stats I can;t figure out how Terry and Cahill were on 4 last night after only 26mins??

FutureGuy

kennyb3 wrote: »

Looking at those stats I can;t figure out how Terry and Cahill were on 4 last night after only 26mins??

They both got 2 bonus against Hull so they must be doing something right!

Mr.Prodston

FutureGuy wrote: »

They both got 2 bonus against Hull so they must be doing something right!

And Cole got 2 as well but Ivanovic didn't get any. What did he do wrong? Despite his goal last night it seems like there's some force-field around him in relation to BPs. If I recall correctly he was always 1/2 points behind the other 3 at all times before his goal last night.

UpTheSlashers

SantryRed wrote: »

I find it odd that strikers get more for scoring goals than defenders.

Defenders are already directly awarded more fantasy points (6) than a midfielder (5) or a forward (4).

kennyb3

FutureGuy wrote: »

They both got 2 bonus against Hull so they must be doing something right!

I can understand (but not agree with) how they can get to 8 BPS points at the end of a game when pass completion, tackles etc all dealt with.

But how can they get to 4 after 26mins. Makes no sense at all to me. surely they didn't have 30 passes before 26mins @ 90%? (or something like that)

OneColdHand

'•For every 8 clearances, blocks and interceptions (total) (1 point)'

I'm wondering if this is important? It might not seem like much, but I can see they would rack up, especially is a team is under pressure for a good bit of the game, and especially as it is the total of all 3. But would need to find some more info. Am I wrong in thinking that a defender could easily make about 20 clearances/block/interceptions? Especially CBs. Almost every time there's a corner they head it clear, especially someone like Terry.

OneColdHand

Also, what exactly is a 'recovery'?

iMuse

kennyb3 wrote: »

Looking at those stats I can;t figure out how Terry and Cahill were on 4 last night after only 26mins??

Terry Breakdown

1 Point for playing in the match
3 points for passing accuracy (29 out of 31 passes in that period)

FutureGuy

iMuse wrote: »

Terry Breakdown

1 Point for playing in the match
3 points for passing accuracy (29 out of 31 passes in that period)

One of the things that is going to skew these BPS is when a team is trying to kill a game and start passing it around the back. Instant boost to the passing stats.

kennyb3

iMuse wrote: »

Terry Breakdown

1 Point for playing in the match
3 points for passing accuracy (29 out of 31 passes in that period)

29 passes in 26mins? How many did he make all game?

What is the best site for getting this?

I'll be all over centre halves in teams who like to knock it round the back all day (think Swansea when the fixtures improve and Spurs too)

iMuse

Also you can look at most of these stats using the statzone app, Anyone got any better way of looking at them?

iMuse

kennyb3 wrote: »

29 passes in 26mins? How many did he make all game?

What is the best site for getting this?

I'll be all over centre halves in teams who like to knock it round the back all day (think Swansea when the fixtures improve and Spurs too)

He made 80 all game (74 successful) 92.5% passing accuracy

jamesbere

So you could put on 5 def with high passing accuracy and watch the pts roll in

Lucas Hood

Epl Index would have been perfect for this but they no longer due subscriptions for the public , Writers only now .
http://www.whoscored.com/ or http://www.squawka.com/ maybe .

As Imuse suggested Statszone for the iPhone is a great resource for this .

Invincible

OneColdHand wrote: »

Also, what exactly is a 'recovery'?

Maybe I'm wrong, but imagine a player being dispossessed and chasing after the ball and winning possession back.

OneColdHand

Invincible wrote: »

Maybe I'm wrong, but imagine a player being dispossessed and chasing after the ball and winning possession back.

Yeah maybe. Or a team on the break, with a player through on goal, and the player gets back to break up the play?

kennyb3

Some stuff here

and man city v newcastle

FutureGuy

KEEP the website/resources coming lads, I'll add them to the first post.

Mr.Prodston

A goal is still worth more than 3 BPs so I wouldn't be recommending a Vert/Luiz/Vidic/Zaba back 4 just yet as the number of clean sheets this week is probably going to be an anomaly especially early on in the season. The second half of the season could see these BPs become much more important when everything tightens up.

Invincible

OneColdHand wrote: »

Yeah maybe. Or a team on the break, with a player through on goal, and the player gets back to break up the play?

That's possible too, you think they would have defined what exactly it is.

kennyb3

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

A goal is still worth more than 3 BPs so I wouldn't be recommending a Vert/Luiz/Vidic/Zaba back 4 just yet as the number of clean sheets this week is probably going to be an anomaly especially early on in the season. The second half of the season could see these BPs become much more important when everything tightens up.

Completely agree, esp re the second half of the season, always a lot more tighter games.

The amount of games were teams are winning 3/4-nil and then concede late due to sloppiness is still going to be a killer tho.

Still it adds a little bit of balance so you can't just go with a super budget defence like before.

My big issue with it is the lack of spread and the number of bonus points been given out.

What I mean is scores on the BPS system have ranged from about -1 to 11 (off my head). Should surely be more like -10 to 20/30.

Players getting bonuses end up between 7-11, way too many bonuses are being handed out with too many players level. Max handed out should be 6 imho.

If players are even it should come down to a ranking of key stats i.e. a winning goal being more important than pass completion therefore only the player that scores gets the bap.

Cole, Terry and Cahill getting 2 each against hull being a case in point and a farce imho. 6 bonus points for a defence that did little.

KevIRL

I've been doing some analysis on the Bonus Point thread we already have on here

These were the BPs from the first round of EPL games (City-Villa not included)

Goalkeepers - 6 pts
Defenders - 31 pts
Midfielders - 18 pts
Forwards - 20 pts

Here's the breakdown based on defenders goals/assists


Defender BPs

Games with clean sheet and no goal/assist - 22
Games with clean sheet but with goal/assist - 4
Games with no clean sheet and no goal/assist - 1
Games with no clean sheet but with goal/assist - 4

One thing that is clear as a big difference between this season and last season is that defenders will score well in the BPS in a 1-0 or 2-0 victory even if they have not scored a goal or made an assist. often higher than the forward who scored. Last season a 1-0 victory would almost certainly mean 3BPs for the goalscorer, not so this season so far

Another thing clear so far is that the new BPS will result in a lot closer scores, most of the games so far have had a lot of players on level BPS and a good few more 'in the mix'. It will be interesting to see if this continues

A team like Chelsea quite happy to pass the ball around defence will build up defender BPS quickly also, this was evident last night

Obviously all the above is based on one weeks data so its a small sample size, but its all that we have.

iMuse

Great Resource here: http://www.squawka.com/football-player-rankings#pass-accuracy#player-stats#english-barclays-premier-league|season-2013/2014#all-teams#defender#18#42#0#0#90#17/08/2013#21/08/2013#season#1#all-matches#total#desc

amber69

Invincible wrote: »

Maybe I'm wrong, but imagine a player being dispossessed and chasing after the ball and winning possession back.

My take on a recovery would be to tackle the ball off an opponent but then keeping possession within your team rather than tackling and the ball goes out for a throw/corner or to another opponent.

moreau

Ok we def need a bonus point rant thread and keep it seperate to this excellent bonus point thread so as not to clog it up.

There is so much I think is wrong with the system I don't know where to begin!

F1ngers

FutureGuy wrote: »

One of the things that is going to skew these BPS is when a team is trying to kill a game and start passing it around the back. Instant boost to the passing stats.

This:

•Pass Completion (after making at least 30 passes)
•70% completion (1 point)
•80% completion (2 points)
•90% completion (3 points)

Even during a game and your keeper rolls ball to player A, who passes to B, back to A and then to C.
Do throw ins count as passes?

KevIRL

moreau wrote: »

Ok we def need a bonus point rant thread and keep it seperate to this excellent bonus point thread so as not to clog it up.

There is so much I think is wrong with the system I don't know where to begin!

We dont need 3 Bonus Points thread anyway.

If there is to be a moaning thread, can the other 2 please be merged.

I think a pet gripe of many on here is the amount of similar threads and it can be hard to keep up with the same conversation happening across a few threads

Mr.Prodston

KevIRL wrote: »

We dont need 3 Bonus Points thread anyway.

If there is to be a moaning thread, can the other 2 please be merged.

I think a pet gripe of many on here is the amount of similar threads and it can be hard to keep up with the same conversation happening across a few threads

This is certainly the wrong thread to bring this up in but it has to do with the threads etc and think tanks involve thinking which can lead to crazy thoughts.

Anyway the point I'm trying to make is I think that it would be a good idea to have a gameweek build-up thread either alongside or more appropriately merged into the transfer thread as it almost serves that purpose anyway? Which would be separate to the actual thread we have from Saturday morning onwards.

Is that a good or bad idea? The general thread is there to serve that purpose but that's nearly too general. For example the Spurs Europa league squad is something people might want to see but seems misplaced in both the general and the transfer thread. Anyway it's something that occurred to me today and thought it was worth a mention.

Ironically this is probably something to be discussed in the general thread :pac:

moreau

KevIRL wrote: »

We dont need 3 Bonus Points thread anyway.

If there is to be a moaning thread, can the other 2 please be merged.

I think a pet gripe of many on here is the amount of similar threads and it can be hard to keep up with the same conversation happening across a few threads

Agree, two threads, but we should try to keep moaning out of analysis of BP system IMO

Re too many threads, have you seen FISO? Boards is a joy compared to there!!

KevIRL

moreau wrote: »

Re too many threads, have you seen FISO? Boards is a joy compared to there!!

Haha, yep. I post on there from time to time. To be fair it would be a lot busier than here.

OneColdHand

OneColdHand wrote: »

'•For every 8 clearances, blocks and interceptions (total) (1 point)'

I'm wondering if this is important? It might not seem like much, but I can see they would rack up, especially is a team is under pressure for a good bit of the game, and especially as it is the total of all 3. But would need to find some more info. Am I wrong in thinking that a defender could easily make about 20 clearances/block/interceptions? Especially CBs. Almost every time there's a corner they head it clear, especially someone like Terry.

There's some further into on this on the FPL Scout page.
http://fantasy.premierleague.com/the-scout/

4 players (Fonte, Olsson, Distin, Hangeland) got over 16 clearances/blocks/interceptions, which would get them 2 points. Fonte got 22, so nearly picked up 3 points!

A lot of players picked up enough for 1 point.

I'm guessing that, in general, the players from the weaker team might do better in this category. Presuming they are under pressure from a stronger team, you would think they would be making plenty of clearances/blocks.

Mr.Prodston

OneColdHand wrote: »

There's some further into on this on the FPL Scout page.
http://fantasy.premierleague.com/the-scout/

4 players (Fonte, Olsson, Distin, Hangeland) got over 16 clearances/blocks/interceptions, which would get them 2 points. Fonte got 22, so nearly picked up 3 points!

A lot of players picked up enough for 1 point.

I'm guessing that, in general, the players from the weaker team might do better in this category. Presuming they are under pressure from a stronger team, you would think they would be making plenty of clearances/blocks.

And going into more detail one of the paragraphs is as follows:

Sylvain Distin and Michael Turner, with 16 CBI and 14 CBI respectively, were both kept busy in Everton’s draw at Norwich City on Saturday afternoon. Neither collected bonus points, however, after being overshadowed by two attacking full-backs; Seamus Coleman and Steven Whittaker both produced a goal and assist in the 2-2 draw.

Basically Mickey Turner was robbed of a BP or two because Coleman and Whittaker had such great attacking returns which won't happen every week.

FutureGuy

Once again, defenders are figuring highly today although the 0-0 results are skewing things somewhat.

Mr.Prodston

FutureGuy wrote: »

Once again, defenders are figuring highly today although the 0-0 results are skewing things somewhat.

Once the Bonus Points are actually confirmed for today I might try and go into a detailed breakdown of them all and the BPS itself.

Mr.Prodston

Right folks, I'll try and give a stab at looking at the BPS for Saturday of GW2 and take it from there if it goes well/don't lose the will to live in the mean time.

Fulham vs. Arsenal:

3 points: Podolski ended up 19 in the BPS having scored 2 goals, including what would be deemed as the winning goal. Pretty obvious candidate for the 3
2 points: Giroud scored 10 with a goal to leave him second
1 point: Bent scored 9 despite only playing 31 minutes.

Observations: It's clear that in high scoring games that defenders won't score BPs unless they're the goal scorer. Having said that Hughes scored 7 and Mertesaker scored 6 and were the highest scoring defenders. Mert would certainly have achieved a BP or 2 if Bent hadn't scored.

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Everton vs. WBA:

3 points: In what may be an FPL first we have 4 players getting a 3 BP maximum. Jagielka and Baines from Everton and Foster and Jones for WBA. This obviously makes sense in a 0-0. Not much to write up on here that isn't obvious as they all ended up with a BPS score of 9

Observations: While those players explain themselves it's with Coleman that interests me. He ended up on 4 a whole 5 BPS behind the others. He seemed to be rampaging forward and had a number of crosses and shots by the gameweek thread. Was it simply because he didn't convert any chance? It's a glaring stat all the same.

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Hull vs. Norwich:

3 points: Brady gets 9 for scoring the penalty (contentious I might add) and only goal of the game.
2 points: McGregor gets 2 BPs with a score of 8. Made plenty saves and kept a clean sheet
1 point: Seems like Chester and Davies will get 1 BP each with a score of 7. The clean sheet here again is at play

Observations: Not to sound bitter but Mickey Turner would have had 3 BPs had the penalty not been given and scored. He was the leading scorer in the Norwich defender with 5 in the BPS just 2 behind Chester and Davies on 7. Jonny Howson would have been in contention for one if it remained goalless too on 6. Sagbo finished on 1 with an assist and a redcard

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Newcastle vs. West Ham:

3 points: Collocini and Santon with 3 apiece with a BPS of 9
1 points: Collins scored 8 so got 1 BP. 2 ahead of his next nearest WH defender in Demel

Observations: Obviously 0-0 was a defenders dream again with 2 CBs netting points and Santon at LB. Nothing else to write home about. Noble got 6 in CM.

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Southampton vs Sunderland:

3 points: Fonte scored a goal and ended up on 10 in the BPS
2 points: Ward-Prowse got 2 on a strng score of 9 which included an assist and also a yellow. Only 1 behind Fonte is interesting
1 point: Lovren & Giaccherini both scored 1 BP each with a score of 8. While Giacch makes sense with a goal it's becoming obvious in just 2 weeks that Lovren is an absolute magnet for BPS scores. He conceded a goal and while it's impossible to compare to Shaw/Clyne 45 mins each he was 3 ahead of Chambers on 5.

Observations: Lovren really is peculiar and seems likely to be an integral scorer for any So'ton clean sheet. A full 6 ahead of O'shea for Sunderland who also conceded one goal. At 5 he's expensive but if he keeps picking up BPs at this rate he'll be a must have before long even maybe at Shaw's expense. Altidore got -1.

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Stoke vs. Palace:

3 points: Chamakh scored a goal and ended up on 10. Benefitted by both teams conceding here
2 points: Huth and Shawcross both scored 9 between them an assist and a goal with a yellow for Shawcross evening things out.

Observations: Adam only got 6 despite a goal. Palace actually had some very strong contenders in the BPS score this week. Delaney and Jedinak scored 7 with Ward on 6 despite conceding 2 goals. Stoke had very little to offer apart from the 3 mentioned and Palace roundly beat them in almost every possition bar Huth and Shawcross's combined efforts for the goal.

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Villa vs. Liverpool

3 points: Enrique with a clean sheet and an assist giving him 12 is self explanatory
2 points: Sturridge and Toure each scored 10. Sturrdige with the only goal of the game would surely in times past have at least been in 2nd on his own but Toure's clean sheet and other duties have him along side the matchwinner.

Observations: [B]Okore[/B] of Villa scored 8 in the BPS which is exceedingly high without having a clean-sheet. Vlaar scored 6 and after that you have Westwood on 4. Lowton and Benteke each scored 0. As for Liverpool Agger/Johnson both on 8 and Mig on 7 the same as his actual score. Couts on 1.

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Final Observations:

Okore and Lovren look like especially good candidates to do well in this BPS. Lovren has 4 BP's in 2 games now. Hughes of Fulham also scored well despite conceding 3 clean sheets. Mickey Turner and Norwich were unlucky today as the penalty scuppered their chances but Turner would have gotten all 3 had it remained 0-0. Coleman doing so poorly is also very interesting while Palace not actually getting much scored well in the system this week

This took too long but I hope it's ok some use and made sense to people

Rayne Wooney

Sitting in an airport bored, just said I'd throw this together lads


GW1 + GW 2

Defenders

748 BPS divided among 88 defenders

Mean: 8.5 per player
Range: 0-19
Mode: 12

64 bonus points distributed as follows:
3's : 11
2's : 10
1's : 11

Highest scoring BPS
Enrique
Fonte
Lovren
Coleman
Johnson

Highest scoring bonus points
Lovren
Jagielka
Baines
Coleman
Hangeland

Midfielders

641 BPS divided among 128 midfielders

Mean: 5 per player
Range: 0-15
Mode: 1

26 bonus points distributed as follows:
3's : 5
2's : 4
1's : 3

Highest scoring BPS
Lampard
Oscar
Barkley
Brady
Ramirez

Highest scoring bonus points
Oscar
Barkley
Brady
Cole
Nolan

Forwards

290 BPS divided among 50 forwards

Mean: 5.8 per player
Range: 0-23
Mode: 1

34 bonus points distributed as follows:
3's : 8
2's : 3
1's : 4

Highest scoring BPS
Benteke
Podolski
Welbeck
Giroud
Sturridge

Highest scoring bonus points
Benteke
Giroud
Podolski
Chamakh
Aguero


BPS
Defenders 44%
Midfielders 38%
Forwards 18%


Trends won't become clear for at least another 3 GW's but I found it interesting that defenders are taking 44% of the BPS and also having a higher mean range and mode than the midfielders.

F1ngers

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Villa vs. Liverpool

3 points: Enrique with a clean sheet and an assist giving him 12 is self explanatory
2 points: Sturridge and Toure each scored 10. Sturrdige with the only goal of the game would surely in times past have at least been in 2nd on his own but Toure's clean sheet and other duties have him along side the matchwinner.

Observations: Okore of Villa scored 8 in the BPS which is exceedingly high without having a clean-sheet. Vlaar scored 6 and after that you have Westwood on 4. Lowton and Benteke each scored 0. As for Liverpool Agger/Johnson both on 8 and Mig on 7 the same as his actual score. Couts on 1.

Nice post.

Enrique gets 90mins(2points), assist(3points) and c/s(4points).
Where does his other points come from to make it 12 BPS?
Toure gets 90mins(2points) and c/s(4points).
Where does his other 4points come from to get 12 BPS.

Also, Agger and Johnson both get 8points - Johnsons' includes a -1 for a yellow.

These extra points aren't showing up on the BPS page:



EDIT: If they are from pass completion/clearances/recoveries etc - they should be on the BPS page.

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Rayne Wooneys' Theory of BPS Relativity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhdhH3cVhUE

Rayne Wooney

Stats like recoveries, pass accuracy etc don't show up. Opta give them to the PL

Mr.Prodston

Just watching MOTD and full-backs that attack (have a few loose crosses/shots off target have a lower score in the BPS than CBs and even a defensive FB. Gibbs 4, Coleman 4, Cameron 2, Moxey 4 all scored lower than their defensive partners yet went roving forward with unfortunately little return.

Something interesting to observe I think.

FutureGuy

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Post has been submitted for the Sir Michael Turner award for excellence

Great observations. I noticed Lovren was scoring highly during the game today even though they were 1-0 down. He is hoovering bonus points because of his overall style of play. 23 total clearances/blocks/interceptions, 4/4 tackles won, 7/8 arise duels won. His overall play (even without a clean sheet) put him on par with the Sunderland goal scorer.

The Everton vs WBA is also a good candidate for checking.

KevIRL

Fantastic post Mr p.

That said anyone who quotes it should get an autoban. Shakes head in disappointment at futureguy

qwabercd

Hangelaand is another player I can see doing very well with the BPs this year. And Jedniak at 4.5m could be good value as he looks like he could pick up a few BPs here and there, he's a very good player.

Morzadec

What seems most clear is that midfielders are suffering.

Getting 8 BPS as a striker means that if you score a goal you've got a really good chance of picking up the points, particularly in a low-scoring game.

It's already been mentioned about defenders picking up a lot of points.

For a long time in FF midfield was the area you had to invest most in. For the moment, no standout candidate has a must have. Of course it's early doors.

FutureGuy

I'm mulling over switching to a team that is primarily a 4-3-3, but can revert to a 3-4-3 when needed.

The days of a clean sheet being worth 6 points are over.

Mr.Prodston

FutureGuy wrote: »

I'm mulling over switching to a team that is primarily a 4-3-3, but can revert to a 3-4-3 when needed.

The days of a clean sheet being worth 6 points are over.

I think I'm almost fully convinced about this (although it only is based on 2 weeks evidence it really is rather compelling). Especially with RVP I can't afford a 4th expensive midfielder, let alone a 3rd and they won't have a sniff of a BP unless they actually go and score in the game itself.

GetWithIt

I've definitely abandoned the long favoured 3-5-2 for a 3-4-3.

4-3-3 seems a bit radical but I am bulking up the defence. It used to be 2 strong defenders and 3 4.0s, with them being rotated depending on fixtures. Now it's more 2 strong, 2 medium and 1 donkey.

kennyb3

I'm giving it one more week - but if this low scoring season continues i'll prob do Snoddy & Tuner to Brady/Whittingham (or similar) & Walker.

That will give me 2*6m defenders, 1*5m, 1*4.5m and 1*4m. I've only spent 8.5m on goalies though with Boruc.

Will leave 2 premium mids, 1 mid priced and 2 cheapo's.

OneColdHand

kennyb3 wrote: »

That will give me 2*6m defenders, 1*5m, 1*4.5m and 1*4m. I've only spent 8.5m on goalies though with Boruc.

I'm thinking something similar.

Currently have 1*5.5m, 1*5.0m, 2*4.5m and 1*4m.

But think I'll look at taking 1.5 out of my midfield and upgrade one of my 4.5m to someone at 6.0m. Terry, probably.