Funeral processions and traffic

A funeral isn't world shattering importance to anyone not involved in it either

Frank Black

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

And your work is of world-shattering importance? Or at least life-and-death importance?
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Nope, just of an importance that justifies overtaking a 40mph funeral procession on one of our National roads.

crockholm

bluewolf wrote: »

A funeral isn't world shattering importance to anyone not involved in it either

How do you feel when stuck behind a tractor/farm machinery with no potential to safely overtake?

crockholm

crockholm wrote: »

How do you feel when stuck behind a tractor/farm machinery with no potential to safely overtake?

What?

crockholm

bluewolf wrote: »

What?

Is the sentence poorly written/constructed?

How do you feel when you are in a car,driving behind slow moving farm machinery,that is going slower than the speed limit.And you do not have the opportunity to overtake safely.How do you feel when that happens?

Frank Black

crockholm wrote: »

How do you feel when stuck behind a tractor/farm machinery with no potential to safely overtake?

How do you feel just after you masturbate and you look up and realise your parents are in the room staring at you?

Rubeter

Frank Black wrote: »

How do you feel just after you masturbate and you look up and realise your parents are in the room staring at you?

Is that what happened to you that turned you into the kind of person that would give the finger to a funeral procession?

crockholm

Frank Black wrote: »

How do you feel just after you masturbate and you look up and realise your parents are in the room staring at you?

Surprised,ashamed and a little sleepy

crockholm

crockholm wrote: »

Is the sentence poorly written/constructed?

How do you feel when you are in a car,driving behind slow moving farm machinery,that is going slower than the speed limit.And you do not have the opportunity to overtake safely.How do you feel when that happens?

I'm confused why you're asking me after I've posted on this thread agreeing that this would be insanely frustrating and saying if they want to hog the road they can expect people to get angry and overtake
Unless we're playing "random question time" in which case... annoyed

crockholm

bluewolf wrote: »

I'm confused why you're asking me after I've posted on this thread agreeing that this would be insanely frustrating and saying if they want to hog the road they can expect people to get angry and overtake
Unless we're playing "random question time" in which case... annoyed

I don't want to come across as posting random questions,it was meant to be more of a "this is what happens,especially in the more rural areas" intro.Why get annoyed at these things? Roadworks/loose animals on the road/accidents all slow us down,and thats why we factor these things in when we(myself and a few others)travel.

I find it dis-heartning to think someone(not you of course) would make obscene hand gestures at a funeral convoy.And I see no reason to forbid funeral processions from happening.

El Horseboxo

I missed the birth of my first child as i got stuck behind one. I fúcking hate them for life.

April O Neill

looking_around wrote: »

Point is, it's not necessary to slow down traffic to a crawl. It won't make their funeral any better or worse. And it's not necessary to "remember" the person this way.

The idea of a hearse speeding along is not a pleasant one, at least when leaving the church or nearing the graveyard. The funeral process in this country is a speedy one, this is the one time when things slow down a bit. If there is a big distance between the two, the speed is picked up.

If there's a charity walk, they're expected to get out of the way, ..why, just because it's a funeral, it's suddenly considered acceptable and ok?

Yes. And we're talking a vehicle, not walkers. Very easy for walkers to move out of the way.

If you need to catch a flight for a reason such you describe above, then you should be very careful to leave yourself enough time. In case like that, you should always try to factor in unforeseen delays. Not an exact science, no, but just give yourself a good cushion.

JuliusCaesar

crockholm wrote: »

How do you feel when stuck behind a tractor/farm machinery with no potential to safely overtake?

Oh well, I think to myself. Better safe than sorry. No point getting annoyed.

April O Neill wrote: »

The idea of a hearse speeding along is not a pleasant one, at least when leaving the church or nearing the graveyard. The funeral process in this country is a speedy one, this is the one time when things slow down a bit. If there is a big distance between the two, the speed is picked up.

yes.

April O Neill wrote: »

If you need to catch a flight for a reason such you describe above, then you should be very careful to leave yourself enough time. In case like that, you should always try to factor in unforeseen delays. Not an exact science, no, but just give yourself a good cushion.

Yes, I have had delays when flying for various reasons - taxi broke down, computers at airport went down. In both cases, I had time to spare, and was philosophical about the wait. Getting annoyed does nothing except annoy you.

A bit of respect for others goes a long way. You have to GIVE respect to get respect.

crockholm

El Horseboxo wrote: »

I missed the birth of my first child as i got stuck behind one. I fúcking hate them for life.

Sorry to hear that.It is sad that the once in a lifetime opportunity was taken from you.

runawaybishop

crockholm wrote: »

I don't want to come across as posting random questions,it was meant to be more of a "this is what happens,especially in the more rural areas" intro.Why get annoyed at these things? Roadworks/loose animals on the road/accidents all slow us down,and thats why we factor these things in when we(myself and a few others)travel.

I find it dis-heartning to think someone(not you of course) would make obscene hand gestures at a funeral convoy.And I see no reason to forbid funeral processions from happening.

Tractors dont drive in convoys and they usually pull over to let you pass. They definitely do not deliberately try to stop you overtaking them and beep at you when you do. Have your procession if you want but it is unreasonable to take over the road.

April O Neill wrote: »

If you need to catch a flight for a reason such you describe above, then you should be very careful to leave yourself enough time. In case like that, you should always try to factor in unforeseen delays. Not an exact science, no, but just give yourself a good cushion.

Bollocks. Adding an additional 2 hours to a 30 minute drive in case you meet a funeral is unreasonable, just like the expectation that people will shelve their own lives so someone can tootle about to a graveyard.

edit: all this is ignoring the fact that a funeral procession at rush hour is just fecking stupid.

April O Neill

runawaybishop wrote: »

Bollocks. Adding an additional 2 hours to a 30 minute drive in case you meet a funeral is unreasonable, just like the expectation that people will shelve their own lives so someone can tootle about to a graveyard.

I highly doubt you've ever been held up for 2 hours by a funeral procession. Colour me dubious. If it did happen to you, then I'd say you've met your lifetime quota for two-hour hold-ups due to a funeral procession, seeing as that would rarely, if ever, happen. Be glad you've got that out of the way!

As for giving yourself plenty of time to get to an airport for a crucial flight. I'm not suggesting that extra is just in the event of be stuck behind a funeral procession. It's to allow for any number of unforeseen circumstances ie. coming on an accident, having to take a detour, getting a puncture, or a combination of small factors adding up. If the flight really is very urgent (ie. getting to a death bed, job interview etc.) then you do need to give yourself as much time as possible.

runawaybishop

April O Neill wrote: »

I highly doubt you've ever been held up for 2 hours by a funeral procession. Colour me dubious. If it did happen to you, then I'd say you've met your lifetime quota for two-hour hold-ups due to a funeral procession, seeing as that would rarely, if ever, happen. Be glad you've got that out of the way!

As for giving yourself plenty of time to get to an airport for a crucial flight. I'm not suggesting that extra is just in the event of be stuck behind a funeral procession. It's to allow for any number of unforeseen circumstances ie. coming on an accident, having to take a detour, getting a puncture, or a combination of small factors adding up. If the flight really is very urgent (ie. getting to a death bed, job interview etc.) then you do need to give yourself as much time as possible.

Read the thread, reports of being held up for 2 additional hours.

People make reasonable assumptions when planning journeys, a convoy moving at low speed refusing to allow other road users to pass or excessive traffic due to walking processions etc at rush hour is not reasonable.

Saying leave earlier is just a cop out, who can realistically plan to meet a funeral in every journey?

Here's an idea: do not have funeral processions at rush hour and allow cars to overtake as they are legally entitled to do. Is that unreasonable?

Cookie_Monster

C.K Dexter Haven wrote: »

Someday, it will be you:)

It certainly won't, even in death I wouldn't be that selfish.

crockholm

runawaybishop wrote: »

Tractors dont drive in convoys and they usually pull over to let you pass. They definitely do not deliberately try to stop you overtaking them and beep at you when you do. Have your procession if you want but it is unreasonable to take over the road.



Bollocks. Adding an additional 2 hours to a 30 minute drive in case you meet a funeral is unreasonable, just like the expectation that people will shelve their own lives so someone can tootle about to a graveyard.

edit: all this is ignoring the fact that a funeral procession at rush hour is just fecking stupid.

You have been lucky to meet such gentlemanly farmers:) Come the time of year when all the bailing goes on,you sure can be stuck behind a convoy,and they go a lot slower than 40mph.

The point was that there are always external factors which can slow traffic,to single out a funeral cortege and call to ban it is extreme imo.

And again,I do sympathise with the people who have missed important functions because of a procession(esp El Horseboxo).

Frank Black

It's not so much the driving in convoy at 40mph - it's the misplaced sense of righteous anger at being overtaken that I find most amusing. Almost as if they consider they should have exclusive use of a national road to ferry a family member to a graveyard and everyone else can just suck it up.
Sorry, it doesn't work like that - I'm overtaking whether you like it or not.

Rosier

Frank Black wrote: »

I came upon a funeral procession a few years ago, on the N52 I think it was between Tullamore and Birr. There were about 20 cars in a line doing around 40mph. I was trying to get to a meeting in Roscrea or somewhere at the time and I started to overtake the cars. A number of them started to beep at me and flash their lights. I ignored them and contintinued to overtake when I could.
You don't have the right to take over a national secondary road for a funeral and demand that everyone else drives at 40mph.
I don't see anything wrong in what I did, though some of the people I overtook seemed to consider me an enormous prick judging by their gestures and expressions. I gave the more ignorant of them the fingers/wanker sign back, which was obviously childish but also immensely satisfying.

I don't see any such objections when sporting events close roads for a whole day...

You have every "right" to use the road as you need to. I meant MOTOR tax

So you hate cyclists and horses and tractors ...

Nothing wrong with 40 mph either.. a good speed and safe.

Eight Ball

Jesus christ if ever an OP's thread summed up what we have become as a people this is it. "Move faster dead people im really important".

Frank Black

Rosier wrote: »

I don't see any such objections when sporting events close roads for a whole day...

You have every "right" to use the road as you need to. I meant MOTOR tax

So you hate cyclists and horses and tractors ...

Nothing wrong with 40 mph either.. a good speed and safe.

Have you just written down a series of random thoughts that happen to be sauntering through your mind at the present moment or is there some overriding point that you're trying (and failing) to make?

Rosier

bluewolf wrote: »

A funeral isn't world shattering importance to anyone not involved in it either

Nor are sporting events when the crowd lets out an d gridlocks traffic for hours

These things happen and are a part of the entire community, like tractors going at 15 mph for many miles down a narrow lane, or tour buses..

The real danger is those who seek to overtake dangerously go too fast, are impatient etc ec etc.

Some rude yobs here!!!

Rosier

runawaybishop wrote: »

Tractors dont drive in convoys and they usually pull over to let you pass. They definitely do not deliberately try to stop you overtaking them and beep at you when you do. Have your procession if you want but it is unreasonable to take over the road.



Bollocks. Adding an additional 2 hours to a 30 minute drive in case you meet a funeral is unreasonable, just like the expectation that people will shelve their own lives so someone can tootle about to a graveyard.

edit: all this is ignoring the fact that a funeral procession at rush hour is just fecking stupid.

REAALY! rare is that event and in many areas there is not room for them to do that...

Sheep on the road,.. etc etc etc

Rosier

Rosier wrote: »

Some rude yobs here!!!

Mod

Rosier, please don't post in this thread again.

Keep it civil lads please.

runawaybishop

crockholm wrote: »

You have been lucky to meet such gentlemanly farmers:) Come the time of year when all the bailing goes on,you sure can be stuck behind a convoy,and they go a lot slower than 40mph.

The point was that there are always external factors which can slow traffic,to single out a funeral cortege and call to ban it is extreme imo.

And again,I do sympathise with the people who have missed important functions because of a procession(esp El Horseboxo).

Coming from a farming area and a farming family i would argue that it is the norm for tractors to pull over. Even if it wasn't it is certainly not the norm to come across a convoy of 20+ tractors that drive in such as manner as to stop you overtaking them.

This isn't about tractors though, or cyclists, or animals on the road. It is about funeral processions. Deliberately stopping other road users from overtaking is unreasonable do you not think?

Can processions be scheduled outside of rush hour, is that too much to ask?

Rosier wrote: »

I don't see any such objections when sporting events close roads for a whole day...

This isn't the "Sporting events and traffic thread", that's probably why.

Rosier wrote: »

REAALY! rare is that event and in many areas there is not room for them to do that...

Sheep on the road,.. etc etc etc

No, its not rare. What have sheep to do with a funeral?

PickledLime

Reading through this thread succinctly sums up what a lot of people have become - rude, impatient, lacking in compassion for their fellow man and entirely self-important :mad:

runawaybishop

PickledLime wrote: »

Reading through this thread succinctly sums up what a lot of people have become - rude, impatient, lacking in compassion for their fellow man and entirely self-important :mad:

Agreed, how hard is it to allow people to overtake you :pac:

PickledLime

PickledLime wrote: »

Reading through this thread succinctly sums up what a lot of people have become - rude, impatient, lacking in compassion for their fellow man and entirely self-important :mad:

As the Mayo footballers well know it isn't a new phenomenon.