Snobby Artist sues love/hate!

slickmcvic

Kevin Sharkeys to sue for hanging a few paintings in John boys gaff!


A DONEGAL artist is suing the makers of the hit RTE TV series ‘Love/Hate’ claiming a breach of copyright.

The Dublin gangland crime drama has featured three of Kevin Sharkey’s works during the first two series of the drama.

The paintings could be seen hanging in the luxury apartment of crime boss John Boy, played by Aidan Gillen.

They were also on view as several characters were filmed taking drugs for the series.

Sharkey’s solicitor Joseph O’Malley confirmed that artist Kevin has filed for damages against Octagon Films and RTE with the High Court.

Mr O’Malley said the legal action related to an alleged “infringement of copyright and a consequential claim for damages.”

“I love what I have seen of ‘Love/Hate’ so far and my decision to pursue the producers is purely a legal matter,” said Sharkey who has complained that his art is being used in the series.

“Having my work portrayed as liked by a dangerous killer and drug addict is the problem. It might seem cool to the lads in Ballymun, but they don’t buy my paintings.”





http://www.donegaldaily.com/2013/08/06/donegal-artist-to-sue-lovehate-tv-show/


“. It might seem cool to the lads in Ballymun, but they don’t buy my paintings.”
.....a bit rich coming from an equality campaigner whose complained of racist abuse in the past!

kylith

If RTE own them then surely they can display them anywhere they like. I'm not aware of anything like IMRO for pictures. Or is it that he doesn't want his pictures associated with drug taking? In which case I'd refer back to - RTE owns them, they can display them wherever they fancy, as long as they don't make unauthorised reproductions or use them in advertising.

FloatingVoter

The guy wants a few quid - whats the issue ? He should get paid, same as any band or artist that gets used on the soundtrack.

I have never seen Love/Hate, but are the indoor scenes filmed on location or on a set somewhere? There's a chance that they happened to be there if they were filming on location.

BadCharlie

Ford will sue now, cause the drug dealers on the show are showing driving in ford cars.
Next it will be Coke suing

biko

I don't watch it but if RTE own the pictures they can use them I'd thought
Free advertising too.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

I would hardly Sharkey snobby OP.

Ilik Urgee

Doesn't matter to him whether he wins or not.
Ireland's largest community forum is talking about his art. Mission accomplished I'd say.

Nemeses

Sue for this, sue for that. Phucking tools!

If I saw my erm, finger painting on RTE - I'd be well chuffed.

What is wrong with people these days.

slickmcvic

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

I would hardly Sharkey snobby OP.

"It might seem cool to the lads in Ballymun, but they don’t buy my paintings.”


,.....doesn't smack of humility to me.

downonthefarm

hope debbie will be back

mikom

What does he need money for, shur he's a priest.

Gatling

slickmcvic wrote: »

"It might seem cool to the lads in Ballymun, but they don’t buy my paintings.”


,.....doesn't smack of humility to me.

But taxpayers in ballymum are subsidising his tax breaks

roast

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

I would hardly Sharkey snobby OP.

I probably wouldn't Sharkey snobby too.

Wait, wut?

Anyone

BadCharlie wrote: »

Ford will sue now, cause the drug dealers on the show are showing driving in ford cars.
Next it will be Coke suing

Avatar are suing after what Fran did to yer one.

Capt'n Midnight

biko wrote: »

I don't watch it but if RTE own the pictures they can use them I'd thought
Free advertising too.

Yeah it's just a publicity stunt


TBH this smacks of the same sort of Mé Fein stuff that wedding photographers do where they hang on to the copyright so the can fleece the guests as well. :mad:

Who'd want to buy a painting if you don't get the rights to show it publicly ??

Even then we have "fair dealing" rights


Also there is no accounting for taste - are the pi

oh wait ... it's that Kevin Sharkey ... always wondered what he was up to these days :pac:

http://www.newirishart.com/irish-artists/kevin-sharkey-artist.htm


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Sharkey

More currently, his Public Enemy Number One exhibition was on a twelve date tour of the world (including New York, Tokyo, Rome and Rio de Janeiro). The exhibition features amongst others Jordan as Myra Hindley, Barack Obama wearing Ku Klux Klan robes (made from U.S. flags), the Pope marrying a gay couple, and Angelina Jolie & Madonna passing each other in a supermarket aisle pushing trolleys full of multi-racial children.

The clue is in the name

also do you think those people would have the right to sue him ?

Gatling

Maybe he saw the rhianna case in the uk and thought he's on to a winner

Stinicker

How would I know, I'm from Donegal!

SEPT 23 1989

this chap seems to crave attention

dar100

I'm from Ballymun, and have many many paintings

Nemeses

dar100 wrote: »

I'm from Ballymun, and have many many paintings

How many?

Irish Guitarist

'John Boy'. The makers of The Waltons should sue them too.

dar100

Nemeses wrote: »

How many?

Well I have not counted them lately, but rest assured I've enough to start my own TV serious. Do you like paintings Nemeses?

downonthefarm

most of the dublin underworld should be suing then.all the plots have been ripped off from paul the hack williams

Nemeses

dar100 wrote: »

Well I have not counted them lately, but rest assured I've enough to start my own TV serious. Do you like paintings Nemeses?

depends.

Are they finger paintings or feet painted pieces?

Anything else and its a no deal.

dar100

downonthefarm wrote: »

most of the dublin underworld should be suing then.all the plots have been ripped off from paul the hack williams

He Knows where all the bodies are buried

downonthefarm

wasnt he the first to expose larry the gent murphy?

dar100

Nemeses wrote: »

depends.

Are they finger paintings or feet painted pieces?

Anything else and its a no deal.

I can't disclose the format of the paintings as of yet, I believe there are some Germans seeking their whereabouts at the present time.

I have them in a cellar, would you care to come see them, it's a dark cellar:D

Rachiee

I remember when utv were filming in my house before for the irish come dine with me auditions they had to take a list of all the art work on the wall so that if the clip was used it could be cleared for copywrite so there obviously is something in his claim. Dont think its reasonable for him to have a problem with it though. Hes one of the countries most popular artists. I cant see rich people stopping buying his work just because they seen it on love hate.

Clandestine

He wants publicity, but I think this will backfire on him.

dar100

downonthefarm wrote: »

wasnt he the first to expose larry the gent murphy?

I think he was his secret Co-accused

Nemeses

dar100 wrote: »

I have them in a cellar, would you care to come see them, it's a dark cellar:D

Sounds like a date.

PM sent.

downonthefarm

yeah think so,he also had a hard on for gentle john gilligan too.....

dar100

Nemeses wrote: »

Sounds like a date.

PM sent.

Your so romantic:D

Nemeses

dar100 wrote: »

Your so romantic:D

You've no idea what you've let yourself in for :pac:

dar100

Nemeses wrote: »

You've no idea what you've let yourself in for :pac:

I like surprises, they excite me, much:D

Ray Palmer

Rachiee wrote: »

I remember when utv were filming in my house before for the irish come dine with me auditions they had to take a list of all the art work on the wall so that if the clip was used it could be cleared for copywrite so there obviously is something in his claim. Dont think its reasonable for him to have a problem with it though. Hes one of the countries most popular artists. I cant see rich people stopping buying his work just because they seen it on love hate.

That's because you could have copyright prints on your walls. An original artwork is different. I could see people not buying his art due to the connection.

Although I am not sure how copyright works for original art work you own. Not sure if you own an art work you have all copyright protection to put it on merchandise. The artist must retain some rights for use of their name etc... Especially if you consider many artists use a theme that can often create very similar works.

MonstaMash

kylith wrote: »

Or is it that he doesn't want his pictures associated with drug taking?

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Garda+probe+Sharkey+dope+smoking+allegations.-a0107732481 :eek:

Celly Smunt

Gatling wrote: »

But taxpayers in ballymum are subsidising his tax breaks

ballymun? Paying tax?.Oh man you crack me up.

Gummy Panda

Maybe he has a point. If his paintings get associated with the gangster art, he might not be able to sell them to his intended audience. Also "the lads in ballymun" probably wouldn't buy them anyway.

Its kind of like those Scarface prints in a frame. At one stage (many years ago) that was a cool film buff thing to do. Now its every scumbag who wants to be gangster or a rapper has one hanging in his bedroom.

ThisRegard

FloatingVoter wrote: »

The guy wants a few quid - whats the issue ? He should get paid, same as any band or artist that gets used on the soundtrack.

He was surely paid when the picture was purchased ? If I buy one of his paintings and hang it in my home or office, do I need to to take note of the number of people who view it and send a cheque to him based on this every year ?

And why has it taken him so long to decide to sue, surely the popularity of the show has nothing to do with it.

Gatling

Celly Smunt wrote: »

ballymun? Paying tax?.Oh man you crack me up.

Are you implying there all unemployed bums

Zillah

Lot of people misunderstanding basic copyright here. The artist (be it a photographer, musician or painter) owns the right to make copies of their work or exploit it commercially, no one else has that right. If RTE bought a painting they bought a physical object, they don't automatically inherit the right to make copies of that work or use it commercially. Using the painting in a TV show is exploiting it for commercial purposes. You can't use a song on the soundtrack just because you bought the CD, either.

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

TBH this smacks of the same sort of Mé Fein stuff that wedding photographers do where they hang on to the copyright so the can fleece the guests as well. :mad:

You mean when they exercise their legal right to gain income from copies of their photography, which is how they pay their bills and recoup the immense cost of their equipment? What a load of ingrates! Idiots should know that you have the right to their photographs just because you attended the wedding.

wilkie2006

Of course he's entitled to be pi$$ed off. Sharkey's a brand, aiming to appeal to a particular demographic.

“Having my work portrayed as liked by a dangerous killer and drug addict is the problem. It might seem cool to the lads in Ballymun, but they don’t buy my paintings.”

By associating his product with a particular lifestyle, viewership and audience, RTE has potentially damaged his saleability among those who had traditionally bought his pieces.

dar100

Celly Smunt wrote: »

ballymun? Paying tax?.Oh man you crack me up.

Yes we pay tax on our illegal earnings dumb ass, we get good rates

Christ the Redeemer

Gatling wrote: »

Are you implying there all unemployed bums

This will be a very popular opinion on boards.

cloudatlas

Headline: 'Stupid man complains about free advertising'

Christ the Redeemer

Those paintings having been in love hate will probably be worth an absolute fortune in the third party market. That is probably annoying the **** out of him too.

Conmaicne Mara

The IRA will be suing next :rolleyes:

darkdubh

Anyone wrote: »

Avatar are suing after what Fran did to yer one.

Funny you should mention Avatar.They're all at this sueing lark, those artists.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/01/brit_artist_sues_iavatari_for_50m/

I cant remember who it was that said a while back that 'Rashers' paintings were like something Quentin Tarantino would buy so im surprised some of his work wasnt bought by the producers for the show.

Sharkey's lawsuit has a thinly veiled sense of 'I done those in case you didnt know' about it.