Modern Day Slavery

becost

Working for a Multinational (office); Being told when you'll start and when you'll finish, as in "we're here till 10 tonight". Being told what to wear. Being told when you can take a break. Being told how to speak. Being timed going to the toilet. People constantly looking over your shoulder. The company expected to be your number 1 priority over everything else. :eek: And it goes on and on. And they didn't even pay well. I threw off the shackles a few years ago but still bare the scars.

Pudsy33

You get paid though, right?

markesmith

becost wrote: »

Working for a Multinational (office); Being told when you'll start and when you'll finish, as in "we're here till 10 tonight". Being told what to wear. Being told when you can take a break. Being told how to speak. Being timed going to the toilet. People constantly looking over your shoulder. The company expected to be your number 1 priority over everything else. :eek: And it goes on and on. And they didn't even pay well. I threw off the shackles a few years ago but still bare the scars.

What's your point?

becost

Pudsy33 wrote: »

You get paid though, right?

yeah, with jelly beans

fro9etb8j5qsl2

My OH bought me a new vacuum cleaner as a present. I call that slavery





I love the vacuum cleaner though

Kevhog1988

have never heard of being timed going tot he toilet...

becost

theemigrant wrote: »

never heard of being timed going tot he toilet...

Not since i was potty training

Probably wouldn't have been so bad if their were prizes for the quickest...

DarkJager

theemigrant wrote: »

have never heard of being timed going tot he toilet...

Happens quite a bit in call centres.

Frank Lee Midere

becost wrote: »

Working for a Multinational (office); Being told when you'll start and when you'll finish, as in "we're here till 10 tonight". Being told what to wear. Being told when you can take a break. Being told how to speak. Being timed going to the toilet. People constantly looking over your shoulder. The company expected to be your number 1 priority over everything else. :eek: And it goes on and on. And they didn't even pay well. I threw off the shackles a few years ago but still bare the scars.

That's ****ty work but not slavery since you were paid and could leave.

rainbowdrop

Who you think you is, Kunta Kinte?

mickrock

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

That's ****ty work but not slavery since you were paid and could leave.

Some call it Wage Slavery.

You're free to choose who you work for but are still a slave to a wage or you will perish.

Mr Benevolent

becost wrote: »

Working for a Multinational (office); Being told when you'll start and when you'll finish, as in "we're here till 10 tonight". Being told what to wear. Being told when you can take a break. Being told how to speak. Being timed going to the toilet. People constantly looking over your shoulder. The company expected to be your number 1 priority over everything else. :eek: And it goes on and on. And they didn't even pay well. I threw off the shackles a few years ago but still bare the scars.

The term you're looking for is 'servant'.

the keen edge

I remember when I used work for a living. T'was only a fools game so told the boss to stick it and I packed it in.

Sleep on a park bench now. I have a constant personal aroma that is a combination of urine and tooth plague.
Never been happier.

Skid X

It is an insult to slaves to call your experience as a paid employee who could choose to leave at any time as 'slavery'.

Toby Take a Bow

the keen edge wrote: »

I have a constant personal aroma that is a combination of urine and tooth plague.

Tooth plague sounds horrendous.

kneemos

Skid X wrote: »

It is an insult to slaves to call your experience as a paid employee who could choose to leave at any time as 'slavery'.

I'm sure the slaves will be up in arms.

wretcheddomain

Didn't you apply for the job and accept it wilfully?

Is that option available for slaves?

What total sh!te this thread is.

If you want to talk about modern day slavery, let's talk about Mauritania where 10-20% of the population are slaves despite the fact that slavery was apparently abolished as a crime in 2007.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritania#Slavery

the keen edge

Toby Take a Bow wrote: »

Tooth plague sounds horrendous.

Sounds horrendous and is in fact worse than it sounds, if you can imagine such a thing.

floggg

rainbowdrop wrote: »

Who you think you is, Kunta Kinte?

No, it's Toby.

freshpopcorn

It's all to do with Standard Operating Procedures.(SOP's) To have an efficient and productive work place.

becost

wretcheddomain wrote: »

If you want to talk about modern day slavery, let's talk about Mauritania where 10-20% of the population are slaves despite the fact that slavery was apparently abolished as a crime in 2007.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritania#Slavery

Hang on a minute. I'll just run out and get my Violin.

It's slavery by western standards.

losthorizon

Oman abolished slavery in 1970!
Mauritania in 1981! (although many people are believed to be still slaves)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline#cite_note-71

kneemos

becost wrote: »

Working for a Multinational (office); Being told when you'll start and when you'll finish, as in "we're here till 10 tonight". Being told what to wear. Being told when you can take a break. Being told how to speak. Being timed going to the toilet. People constantly looking over your shoulder. The company expected to be your number 1 priority over everything else. :eek: And it goes on and on. And they didn't even pay well. I threw off the shackles a few years ago but still bare the scars.

This is what happens when you become a production unit.

wretcheddomain

losthorizon wrote: »

Oman abolished slavery in 1970!
Mauritania in 1981! (although many people are believed to be still slaves)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline#cite_note-71

In Mauritania, it was 'abolished' in 1981 but it only became a 'crime' from 2007, but this law is not enforced and some would argue not enforceable at the moment.

Mike 1972

Theres more slaves in the world today than anytime in history.

the keen edge wrote: »

IeSleep on a park bench now. I have a constant personal aroma that is a combination of urine and tooth plague.
Never been happier.

Didnt realise practitioners of this lifestyle could still access the internet.

Maybe I should give it a try after all ?

becost

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

That's ****ty work but not slavery since you were paid and could leave.

Yeah but they even put a clause in my contract saying I had to give 3 months notice. I got around this by leaving at the end of my probationary period which was 12 months!

losthorizon

wretcheddomain wrote: »

In Mauritania, it was 'abolished' in 1981 but it only became a 'crime' from 2007, but this law is not enforced and some would argue not enforceable at the moment.

Just read your post above now! Funnily enough I was reading about S. Arabia and its getting rid of slavery only recently. Its interesting to note that slavery only disappeared from Tibet once China invaded. Not defending China's actions but maybe the Dalai Lama isn't such the nice guy hes cracked up to be.

The Backwards Man

Threads like this make me sad. This is what what happens when you give people too many rights. Moaning and complaining, whining and whinging, they are never happy.

kneemos

becost wrote: »

Yeah but they even put a clause in my contract saying I had to give 3 months notice. I got around this by leaving at the end of my probationary period which was 12 months!

Sounds like a place that could do with a union.What type of work was it op...that is if you haven't signed a privacy contract.

losthorizon

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Threads like this make me sad. This is what what happens when you give people too many rights. Moaning and complaining, whining and whinging, they are never happy.

Employers? I know! Thats why so many children died working in mines in the 19 century.

becost

kneemos wrote: »

Sounds like a place that could do with a union.What type of work was it op...that is if you haven't signed a privacy contract.

Financial services and the company refused to recognize union membership.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Threads like this make me sad. This is what what happens when you give people too many rights.

I agree. These foreign companies that come to Ireland to take advantage of our tax system and workers should be booted out as a priority.

Mongfinder General

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Threads like this make me sad. This is what what happens when you give people too many rights. Moaning and complaining, whining and whinging, they are never happy.

We could go back to this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg3eCHFLoTo

The Backwards Man

losthorizon wrote: »

Employers? I know! Thats why so many children died working in mines in the 19 century.

I bet you they never complained about timed toilet breaks or that their swivel chair was too squeaky though.

Jonny7

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Theres more slaves in the world today than anytime in history.



Didnt realise practitioners of this lifestyle could still access the internet.

Maybe I should give it a try after all ?

It's called the dole and rent allowance.

kneemos

becost wrote: »

Financial services and the company refused to recognize union membership.

Thought only the Americans could get away with that.

SolarFlash

Office jobs are not as glamorous as people think.

_Kaiser_

kneemos wrote: »

Sounds like a place that could do with a union.What type of work was it op...that is if you haven't signed a privacy contract.

Multinationals don't recognize unions. You can feel free to join one, but it doesn't mean they have to deal with them.

pickarooney

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Threads like this make me sad. This is what what happens when you give people too many rights. Moaning and complaining, whining and whinging, they are never happy.

Most of these rights are illusory. Even the slaves, when freed, often just chose to continue being slaves as they had no real viable alternative.

i71jskz5xu42pb

mickrock wrote: »

You're free to choose who you work for but are still a slave to a wage or you will perish.

Or, maybe, he could get off his hole and work for himself.
Problem solved.
Maybe he could set up as a freelance Rent-a-whinger, certainly has the skills.

Mike 1972

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Multinationals don't recognize unions.

Some do.

In more enlightened countries they are compelled to if the majority of workers are members.

Some companies make union membership a condition of employment which is really just as bad as refusing to recognise them.

losthorizon

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Multinationals don't recognize unions. You can feel free to join one, but it doesn't mean they have to deal with them.

Some of them do; some of them don't.

Some will recognise them in their home country but not here.

I used to work for Sanofi and we had a union and i also worked for Kodak and they had a union in the states but not over here.

Both companies closed.

kneemos

becost wrote: »

Financial services and the company refused to recognize union membership.



I agree. These foreign companies that come to Ireland to take advantage of our tax system and workers should be booted out as a priority.

There is a local company here that all of the workforce joined SIPTU en masse,even if the company doesn't recognise them they can certainly organise and inform the workers of their rights.If you're employer wants to play hardball there's no law against the workers doing the same.

Mike 1972

Jonny7 wrote: »

It's called the dole and rent allowance.

The owners of park benches charge rent ?

Leftist

SolarFlash wrote: »

Office jobs are not as glamorous as people think.

Some people think it's hell.

The monotonous life, living to scuttle into your cubicle, wearing a rope/tie around your neck and generally being a pissweak administrator with nothing to look forward to, other than artificially altering your mind at weekend breaks or depending on more computers/screens to entertain you with tales of fictional lives. You are always replaceable and the awful few who buy into corporate loyalty and live to forward the companies goals are ultimately the ones who will fall hardest.

I like to think of it as Limbo though. Office work is a nothing life. Spent wasting time.

becost

Sonia Sparse Ink wrote: »

Or, maybe, he could get off his hole and work for himself.
Problem solved.
Maybe he could set up as a freelance Rent-a-whinger, certainly has the skills.

That's what I'm doing now and averaging a grand a week for less than 1 hour a day. And I regularly work drunk/in my underwear/puffing away on e cigarettes/unwashed/unshaven/farting like mad/etc,etc. It was 10 years ago that I was in that situation.

Leftist wrote: »

I like to think of it as Limbo though. Office work is a nothing life. Spent wasting time.

Your surviving not living.

i71jskz5xu42pb

becost wrote: »

That's what I'm doing now and averaging a grand a week for less than 1 hour a day. And I regularly work drunk/in my underwear/puffing away on e cigarettes/unwashed/unshaven/farting like mad/etc,etc. It was 10 years ago that I was in that situation.

OK if it was 10 years ago and you're now living this dream lifestyle why is it you're still going on about it? Move on with your life.

Henlars67

theemigrant wrote: »

have never heard of being timed going tot he toilet...

Common pratice in some places. Saw a factory floor manager standing outside the toilet doors with a stopwatch

becost

Sonia Sparse Ink wrote: »

OK if it was 10 years ago and you're now living this dream lifestyle why is it you're still going on about it? Move on with your life.

Well, I only got out of office work a year ago, so it's all still quite raw and it's only the last few months that I'm making easy money but thanks for your kind words. If things keep going the way they are now, I'll definitely be moving on with my life with a two year round the world trip starting from early 2014.

visual

None of us really get to do what we like in work all the time and I have worked in some sole less companies but worse was falimy business that the boss liked to intimate and bully his employees. Saying all that I stayed as I needed the salary. One saying helped me get through the difficult days. A real hero is a man who hates his job but goes to work everyday to support his family.

No a fan of some companies policies and work ethics and bad management can be frustrating and degrading, sole destroying even pointless but with so many unemployed, companies can take advantage of the situation.
You just have to work out can you continue with a job you dislike for the humble rewards once the tipping point is reached its time to move on hopefully to greener pastures.

becost

visual wrote: »

None of us really get to do what we like in work all the time and I have worked in some sole less companies but worse was falimy business that the boss liked to intimate and bully his employees. Saying all that I stayed as I needed the salary. One saying helped me get through the difficult days. A real hero is a man who hates his job but goes to work everyday to support his family.

No a fan of some companies policies and work ethics and bad management can be frustrating and degrading, sole destroying even pointless but with so many unemployed, companies can take advantage of the situation.
You just have to work out can you continue with a job you dislike for the humble rewards once the tipping point is reached its time to move on hopefully to greener pastures.

Find a job doing something you enjoy and you'll never work another day in your life.

harney

Pfff, compared to this guy you are treated like a god op

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/ronaldo-i-am-a-slave-864958.html