BMWHaus.ie new Forum

btkm8unsl0w5r4

http://www.bmwhaus.ie/

Just to get the word out there, there is a new BMW owners site BMWHaus.ie
Its new, a very car focused from what I have seen. Anyone interested can check it out. The site owners have done a great job getting a lot of content on there day one.

I have absolutely nothing to do with this site, just a few on here might like it as its BMW focused.

rocky

Doesn't work for me atm, hope it's not a majority of members stuck in a time warp that think the E36 and E39 are the best bmws ever

kdevitt

rocky wrote: »

Doesn't work for me atm, hope it's not a majority of members stuck in a time warp that think the E36 and E39 are the best bmws ever

Hope not - everyone knows the E30 and E34 are the best BMW's ever

ongarite

Is this the re-launch of the split off from the bmw-driver.net forum?
Looks to be the same layout and site sponsors, etc..

Ardennes1944

One of the lads text me about this last week from BMW drivers, seems to be a split from it alright.

Matt Simis

kdevitt wrote: »

Hope not - everyone knows the E30 and E34 are the best BMW's ever

You speak the truth.

rovoagho

Why the need for a spilt?

challengemaster

rovoagho wrote: »

Why the need for a spilt?

BMW-driver got bought out not that long ago by canadian investors or some such, and since it's become quite expensive for small traders to become site sponsors, and were "priced out" essentially, despite how valuable to the community they were. Becoming more business orientated rather than community orientated is never good for sites that run from a small community...

There most likely are other reasons I'm not aware of too.

bazz26

Didn't something similar happen to octane.ie?

MuppetCheck

bazz26 wrote: »

Didn't something similar happen to octane.ie?

And others...

Matt Simis

bazz26 wrote: »

Didn't something similar happen to octane.ie?

Not that I recall; The guy running Octane shut it down due to legal threats and too much time being taken up running the site and dealing with $hit.

Kenny Logins

Ah good 'ol AutoGuide f**king things up again.

Hal1

Ah thank god for this, take them all. This forum is over run with them .

Shane732

I've pretty much given up on Irish BMW forums.

From what I've read on BMW-Driver it appears that one of the sponsors didn't pay subscriptions from the start of the year and a sh*t storm ensued.

IMO it's pointless setting up different BMW forums. The whole thing becomes very dispersed.

The UK forum of bimmerpost is much better IMO. At least people aren't stuck 15 years in the past on it.

rocky

I'm reading bmwland and pistonheads, people there with cars I'm actually interested in . There were a few E60 M5s on bmw-driver, but they seemed to stop posting a while ago.

TheBazman

rocky wrote: »

I'm reading bmwland and pistonheads, people there with cars I'm actually interested in . There were a few E60 M5s on bmw-driver, but they seemed to stop posting a while ago.

At least one is on here too.

ciarsd

ongarite wrote: »

Is this the re-launch of the split off from the bmw-driver.net forum?
Looks to be the same layout and site sponsors, etc..

A couple of like-minded members of bmw-driver decided to quit moaning and do something about the demise and breakdown of our forum since the transition to Autoguide. Ending in the setup of BMWHaus.

Similar layout, but that's how forums go. As for site sponsors, the significant difference here is that anyone listed on BMWHaus are fully paid up, contributing members, not the case over on driver. In fact, the current list of driver sponsors has yet to be updated to reflect facts today.

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

One of the lads text me about this last week from BMW drivers, seems to be a split from it alright.

Pop over and say hello!

Shane732 wrote: »

I've pretty much given up on Irish BMW forums.

From what I've read on BMW-Driver it appears that one of the sponsors didn't pay subscriptions from the start of the year and a sh*t storm ensued.

IMO it's pointless setting up different BMW forums. The whole thing becomes very dispersed.

The UK forum of bimmerpost is much better IMO. At least people aren't stuck 15 years in the past on it.

Hi Shane, appreciate your sentiment regarding splits of such specific forums in a small country such as ours with an even smaller motoring enthusiast-type audience. Pop over and say hello, you never know, it might be a little different to previous you've visited I can assure you that no one is stuck 15 years in the past, although there is everything from very early models of BMW right through to the latest and greatest.

rocky wrote: »

I'm reading bmwland and pistonheads, people there with cars I'm actually interested in . There were a few E60 M5s on bmw-driver, but they seemed to stop posting a while ago.

Hi Rocky, have a closer look inside BMWhaus - there are a number of M's lurking including some CSL's / E30 / E60 to mention a few :cool:

Curran

Shane732 wrote: »

From what I've read on BMW-Driver it appears that one of the sponsors didn't pay subscriptions from the start of the year and a sh*t storm ensued.

There are numberous site sponsors who havent paid their subscriptions; just check the last posted dates for each section - Detailer.ie who isnt operating any more, Spirit, Dunboyne Garage, etc, etc - if they took away all the sponsors who arent paid up there only be 2 / 3 remaining!

The site sponsors that were pullled, weren't contacted looking for payment - they were just pulled, as the guys are involved in the new forum

bmstuff

Curran wrote: »

There are numberous site sponsors who havent paid their subscriptions; just check the last posted dates for each section - Detailer.ie who isnt operating any more, Spirit, Dunboyne Garage, etc, etc - if they took away all the sponsors who arent paid up there only be 2 / 3 remaining!

The site sponsors that were pullled, weren't contacted looking for payment - they were just pulled, as the guys are involved in the new forum

In fairness Autoguide is asking too much money. 75£ a month (Yes British Pounds), which not so long ago was about 100 euros a month.
The Irish market being a small market compared to the UK, most local sellers find it hard to justify the cost.
Most of those sellers were here way before Autoguide, which makes it even more difficult to ask them to pay that kind of money today.
Even major and big forums in the UK have cheaper seller's fees than that and the returns are greater.

At the end of the day Autoguide build links to their own website so they can increase their own ads prices due to the increased traffic.
I highly doubt they make any significant money from the few forums they bought over the last 2-3 years, specifically Irish forums.

Curran

bmstuff wrote: »

In fairness Autoguide is asking too much money. 75£ a month (Yes British Pounds), which not so long ago was about 100 euros a month.

Ohhhh I know only too well!

They never looked for money in Jan, and ever made an effort to make communication about any outstanding payments - just ripped the section down!


As you said..."I highly doubt they make any significant money from the few forums they bought over the last 2-3 years, specifically Irish forums"
And to that effect, they also dont give a rats arse about how the forum is run. Previous mods who have stepped down, worked very hard, to bring new ideas and things to implement....they gave the forum a few new smilies and that was about it....there was a need for a Irish community based forum, and thats what BMWHaus offers!

DieselPowered

Fairplay lads, the new site seems to be coming along just nicely. Always room for improvement from old forums.

ShadowHearth

A drama on Car enthusiast forum.... Which escalates in to a split up.... Oh my... I never sow that before.... :pac:

S28382

Looks good, BMW driver was too bland and old looking the new site looks alot brighter and better which is always good.

Robbiee

Shane732 wrote: »

I've pretty much given up on Irish BMW forums.

From what I've read on BMW-Driver it appears that one of the sponsors didn't pay subscriptions from the start of the year and a sh*t storm ensued.

IMO it's pointless setting up different BMW forums. The whole thing becomes very dispersed.

The UK forum of bimmerpost is much better IMO. At least people aren't stuck 15 years in the past on it.

Ah maybe people are stuck 15 years in the past coz we,re not all loaded and cant just go out and buy new and leave the warranty worry about it or keep chucking money at all the problems. Not much point in a forum on about brand new bmws wat would ya talk about? Ah everythings great still,and if its not bring it back to dealer.....

Gumbo

Robbiee wrote: »

Ah maybe people are stuck 15 years in the past coz we,re not all loaded and cant just go out and buy new and leave the warranty worry about it or keep chucking money at all the problems. Not much point in a forum on about brand new bmws wat would ya talk about? Ah everythings great still,and if its not bring it back to dealer.....

Our future is shaped by the past, and if it was for such great cars including the E30, E39, and indeed, VW golf, to name but a few, that the car companies would not of built up the reputation and customer base to continue into the future.

Kenny Logins

Robbiee wrote: »

Ah maybe people are stuck 15 years in the past coz we,re not all loaded and cant just go out and buy new and leave the warranty worry about it or keep chucking money at all the problems. Not much point in a forum on about brand new bmws wat would ya talk about? Ah everythings great still,and if its not bring it back to dealer.....

With daft features such as electronic handbrakes etc., I'm happy to be stuck in the past (E24). :pac:

rovoagho

To be fair, old BMWs have their fair share of daft analogue handbrakes. I've had three of different generations and they've all been shoite; the hand-operated one on the e38 is just plain useless.

Robbiee

Kenny Logins wrote: »

With daft features such as electronic handbrakes etc., I'm happy to be stuck in the past (E24).

I totally agree obviously money no object id have an f10 m5 on the drive just to have 1, even though I see they have a system that sends engine noises through the speakers, which is hilarious. Why? turbo v8 should sound good enough on its own,.. I worry about how any normal person or garage is going to be able to do anything with the likes of these in the future. we,ll all be tied to dealers for life, Why cant they keep them some way simple?? because theres no money to be made off good old reliability..

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Huge power, relative economy, comfort, relative reliability, handeling, gagets we need, and safety unfortunately are not compatible with the old ways. Nostalgia of older cars often makes you forget their problems and just how much better the average modern car is. I have driven a e30 m3 and its fun, but only in small doses.

bmstuff

Robbiee wrote: »

we,ll all be tied to dealers for life, Why cant they keep them some way simple?? because theres no money to be made off good old reliability..

Any independent garage equipped with the correct BMW equipment can do the same as the dealer when it comes to service and maintenance, releasing the rear brakes etc, not really an issue. BMW like other manufacturers is required by law to make their diagnostic tools available to professionals to buy.

I agree with you though, some newer cars are over engineered and complicated. On the F series you need to plug in the computer in order to change the rear pads/disks so you can call the function to release the rear calipers.
But I can assure you, BMW is far from the worse. Try Audi etc, way more over engineered in many areas.

Leonard Hofstadter

bmstuff wrote: »

But I can assure you, BMW is far from the worse. Try Audi etc, way more over engineered in many areas.

I wouldn't call that over-engineered at all, that's just pure bad engineering. Modern cars are engineered in such a way that nobody can work on them without all these fancy diagnostic tools, which mean a greater cost to the average owner and/or the car being scrapped earlier on in its life ,because the cost of repairing something relatively easy is too much.

Over-engineering is where a car is designed to do a lot more than it really needs to do, such as 80s Mercs, which did 300k miles in their sleep when the average car might be scrapped at only 150 or 200k miles, or where a car's mechanical components are built so that the car can be driven to within an inch of its life around a track each and every day for 5-10 years just because it's a 'sports car' even though the average sports car will see nothing more than maybe an hour of spirited driving every other week on main roads.

rovoagho

Jayleen Narrow Paperboy wrote: »

Huge power, relative economy, comfort, relative reliability, handeling, gagets we need, and safety unfortunately are not compatible with the old ways. Nostalgia of older cars often makes you forget their problems and just how much better the average modern car is. I have driven a e30 m3 and its fun, but only in small doses.

Nonsense; with the possible exception of economy, which I couldn't give a toss about anyway. I've owned 2 old beamers and still drive one, and they've all had ample power (huge in one case), plenty of comfort, great reliability, great or good handling (the e38 was a tad wallowy to be fair, but what barge isn't?), loads of useful gadgets, and I'd be very comfortable with the odds of coming out better than an NCAP-rated econobox, which would account for a stupid percentage of Irish cars.

My current car isn't a beamer, it's a 1996 Volvo 850R. It has electric windows, mirrors, sunroof, electric heated seats, 8 speaker sound, ABS, traction control, fold-flat seats, an enormous luggage compartment, a towbar and roof bars because I can, and again, I feel pretty safe in it; safe enough to stick my two smallies in the back. (And their buggy, changing bags, kitchen sink, dog, surfboard, etc.) I haven't had any major problems with it in a year, it's dead easy to work on, it only cost two grand, and it goes like stink.

I'd like an E61 M5 please (my Volvo may be blown, but it'll be a long time before there'll be a blown beamer in my driveway, particularly one that's acoustically adjusted) but I'll keep the 855 for Monday to Friday, thanks all the same. Add in the 750iL I crave, and I'm not sure how much time that modern V10 would get on the road. And I'm terrified of iDrive....