Triathletes Are Skinny

tunney

Runners are skinny.
Triathletes are skinny.

I suspect that you are underestimating exactly how much weight you have to loose.

elvis jones

tunney wrote: »

Runners are skinny.
Triathletes are skinny.

I suspect that you are underestimating exactly how much weight you have to loose.

No they aren't. Some are, some aren't.

I could say triathletes are up their own ar$e...........some are, some aren't...........its easy to spot the ones who are, they made generic statements.

Oryx

elvis jones wrote: »

No they aren't. Some are, some aren't.

In fairness elvis at the top end they all are.

elvis jones

Oryx wrote: »

In fairness elvis at the top end they all are.

But to say they ALL are is a generic statement. If it was that at the top they all are thats fine but its not true.

By that i'm not a triathlete or a runner becuase i'm not skinny:rolleyes:

Perhaps next time i'm doing an event i should say that you shouldn't consider yourself a runner unless you're skinny.

mrbungle

boards.ie at its best.

Oryx

elvis jones wrote: »

But to say they ALL are is a generic statement. If it was that at the top they all are thats fine but its not true.

By that i'm not a triathlete or a runner becuase i'm not skinny:rolleyes:

Perhaps next time i'm doing an event i should say that you shouldn't consider yourself a runner unless you're skinny.

This wasn't a dig at you and you should know better than to take a tunneyism that way. But it does remain that we shave weight off our bikes and ourselves because it is a way to get faster.

elvis jones

tunney wrote: »

No runners are skinny. Triathletes are skinny.

People who do some running might be fat.
People who do a bit of triathlon might be fat.

Some fat people might be very very sensitive about being fat too.

Utter rubbish, you say runners are skinny and then say some might be fat, don't trip up back tracking there. That's a politician's answer:rolleyes:

If as you say triathletes are skinny and at 5' 9" and 15 odd stone.......by your reckoning i'm not a triathlete or a runner. But if i do a "bit" its ok to be fat...........

tunney

elvis jones wrote: »

No they aren't. Some are, some aren't.

I could say triathletes are up their own ar$e...........some are, some aren't...........its easy to spot the ones who are, they made generic statements.

Likewise you can spot the ones who are over weight and sensitive about it.

IMHO runners and triathletes are skinny. Others run and do triathlon.

elvis jones wrote: »

But to say they ALL are is a generic statement. If it was that at the top they all are thats fine but its not true.

By that i'm not a triathlete or a runner becuase i'm not skinny:rolleyes:

Perhaps next time i'm doing an event i should say that you shouldn't consider yourself a runner unless you're skinny.

You can consider yourself lord and creator of the universe if you want. No one can, or should, affect what you think of yourself.

Oryx wrote: »

This wasn't a dig at you and you should know better than to take a tunneyism that way. But it does remain that we shave weight off our bikes and ourselves because it is a way to get faster.

I think honesty about exercise, food and weight is a good thing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2180687/Why-going-gym-make-FAT.html

elvis jones

Oryx wrote: »

This wasn't a dig at you and you should know better than to take a tunneyism that way. But it does remain that we shave weight off our bikes and ourselves because it is a way to get faster.

There's more than me that aren't the "perfect" triathlete build, look at any event. But to say that ALL triathletes and runners are skinny is just plain wrong.

No matter how anyone tries to justify it, its wrong.

Agreed the way to get faster it to drop weight AND get fitter but fat bloke here has passed out many a skinny person so skinny isn't everything

dario28

tunney wrote: »

Runners are skinny.
Triathletes are skinny.

I suspect that you are underestimating exactly how much weight you have to loose.

Usain bolt - 95kgs
Craig Alexander - 70kgs

You dont have to look like ya just spent a year in Auschwitz to still do tri/running and still register in the top 20


Triathletes are skinny cause they dont do weight training.

elvis jones

tunney wrote: »

Likewise you can spot the ones who are over weight and sensitive about it.

IMHO runners and triathletes are skinny. Others run and do triathlon.



You can consider yourself lord and creator of the universe if you want. No one can, or should, affect what you think of yourself.



I think honesty about exercise, food and weight is a good thing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2180687/Why-going-gym-make-FAT.html

So i'm not a triathlete or a runner then ?

tunney

elvis jones wrote: »

Utter rubbish, you say runners are skinny and then say some might be fat, don't trip up back tracking there. That's a politician's answer:rolleyes:

If as you say triathletes are skinny and at 5' 9" and 15 odd stone.......by your reckoning i'm not a triathlete or a runner. But if i do a "bit" its ok to be fat...........

No I said runners are skinny.
Then I said some fat people run.

One is a noun.
One is a verb.

elvis jones wrote: »

There's more than me that aren't the "perfect" triathlete build, look at any event. But to say that ALL triathletes and runners are skinny is just plain wrong.

No matter how anyone tries to justify it, its wrong.

Agreed the way to get faster it to drop weight AND get fitter but fat bloke here has passed out many a skinny person so skinny isn't everything

Apples are green.

Therefore is something is green it is an apple?

Someone is skinny, therefore they are a runner? No they could be anorexic.

elvis jones

tunney wrote: »

No I said runners are skinny.
Then I said some fat people run.

One is a noun.
One is a verb.



Apples are green.

Therefore is something is green it is an apple?

Someone is skinny, therefore they are a runner? No they could be anorexic.

People who play rugby are rugby players
People who play football are footballers
People who run are runners ( but only if they are skinny in Tunneyworld )

I feel sorry for you, i really do if the Daily Mail is what you use to prove yourself right.

tunney

dario28 wrote: »

Usain bolt - 95kgs
Craig Alexander - 70kgs

You dont have to look like ya just spent a year in Auschwitz to still do tri/running and still register in the top 20


Triathletes are skinny cause they dont do weight training.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120122114857AAL37Jw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Alexander_(triathlete)

Bolt is about 7% and a sprinter.

Crowier is 150 pounds and 5 11 -puts him about 6lbs over the optimal weight for an endurance runner his height, but he is a triathlete so.......

elvis jones

tunney wrote: »

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120122114857AAL37Jw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Alexander_(triathlete)

Bolt is about 7% and a sprinter.

Crowier is 150 pounds and 5 11 -puts him about 6lbs over the optimal weight for an endurance runner his height, but he is a triathlete so.......

Wikipedia and yahoo answers, your knowledge knows no bounds.

tunney

elvis jones wrote: »

People who play rugby are rugby players
People who play football are footballers
People who run are runners ( but only if they are skinny in Tunneyworld )

I feel sorry for you, i really do if the Daily Mail is what you use to prove yourself right.

I thought a daily mail like more appropriate for you, particularly from the womens section give how sensitive you are being

Could have posted:

http://running.about.com/od/runningandweightloss/ss/commonweightlossmistakes_6.htm

or

http://m.runnersworld.com/nutrition-for-runners/do-you-overeat-after-a-hard-run

But thought the mail more appropriate.

elvis jones

tunney wrote: »

I thought a daily mail like more appropriate for you, particularly from the womens section give how sensitive you are being

Could have posted:

http://running.about.com/od/runningandweightloss/ss/commonweightlossmistakes_6.htm

or

http://m.runnersworld.com/nutrition-for-runners/do-you-overeat-after-a-hard-run

But thought the mail more appropriate.

You still haven't answered my question. By your standards and defination am i a triathlete or a runner ?

No sorry i only read the Irish Times running section, keep an look out for my profile interview next week

Oryx

elvis jones

Oryx wrote: »

Any lime green ?

Chartsengrafs

dario28 wrote: »

Triathletes are skinny cause they dont do weight training.

I think there are other factors to be taken into consideration here. In particular the hours of aerobic excercise which would not particularly help weight gain. Unless you're eating wrong.

tunney

elvis jones wrote: »

You still haven't answered my question. By your standards and defination am i a triathlete or a runner ?

No sorry i only read the Irish Times running section, keep an look out for my profile interview next week

What standards and definitions I apply are only applicable to myself. I'm 5 foot 10 and 13 stone. Am I a triathlete or a runner? No. I no longer embrace the lifestyle. That being said I hugely enjoy the odd bit of running and cycling and hope to do so for many years to come.

Hope the article is a good one.

mloc123

elvis jones wrote: »

You still haven't answered my question. By your standards and defination am i a triathlete or a runner ?

No sorry i only read the Irish Times running section, keep an look out for my profile interview next week

Are you a triathlete? Probably not. You are somebody that completes triathlons..

dario28

Ha , was just reading this

http://robbwolf.com/2012/09/21/10-ways-ironman-triathletes-avoid-chronic-cardio-self-destruction/

and found this


http://tri-ripped.com/

everyones problem is now solved ! love the opening paragraph

"
As you may have noticed (especially if you watched video above) it’s pretty typical among the triathlon crowd to have tiny arms, a thin neck, a stick-like midsection, a weak body frame and even a “skinny-fat” look, with a little bit of weight in the belly and waist.
Let’s face it – that ain’t sexy."

mrbungle

Cambridge Online Dictionary
triathlete noun [C]
› someone who competes in a triathlon

Elsewhere:
tri·ath·lete (tr-thlt)
n.
One who competes in a triathlon.

tri•ath•lete (traɪˈæθ lit)
n.
a competitor in a triathlon.


From a 6'2" 72kg skinny triathlete.

tunney

mrbungle wrote: »

Cambridge Online Dictionary
triathlete noun [C]
› someone who competes in a triathlon

Elsewhere:
tri·ath·lete (tr-thlt)
n.
One who competes in a triathlon.

tri•ath•lete (traɪˈæθ lit)
n.
a competitor in a triathlon.


From a 6'2" 72kg skinny triathlete.

You must be fairly lean at that height and weight.

I highlighted some key words.

Complete versus compete.

mloc123

mrbungle wrote: »

Cambridge Online Dictionary
triathlete noun [C]
› someone who competes in a triathlon

Elsewhere:
tri·ath·lete (tr-thlt)
n.
One who competes in a triathlon.

tri•ath•lete (traɪˈæθ lit)
n.
a competitor in a triathlon.


From a 6'2" 72kg skinny triathlete.

compete yes, complete... no. But that is just IMO

elvis jones

tunney wrote: »

What standards and definitions I apply are only applicable to myself. I'm 5 foot 10 and 13 stone. Am I a triathlete or a runner? No. I no longer embrace the lifestyle. That being said I hugely enjoy the odd bit of running and cycling and hope to do so for many years to come.

Hope the article is a good one.

I didn't ask you thought you were a triathlete.........well avoided again.

tunney

elvis jones wrote: »

I didn't ask you thought you were a triathlete.........well avoided again.

No need to throw the doughnuts out of the chip van.

Why does it matter to you what I think?

BTH

MOD HAT Sorry to break up this school yard pissing contest, but its a few miles off topic. Was there not a thrash talking thread for this kind of nonsense.

elvis jones

tunney wrote: »

No need to throw the doughnuts out of the chip van.

Why does it matter to you what I think?

You made a generic statement that was wrong, i think its unfair to a lot of people who by their standards train hard to do a triathlon and then to have someone say eh you're not a triathlete you're not skinny is horse poo.

If you spend the time training to do a triathlon you deserve to be called a triathlete.

elvis jones

BTH wrote: »

MOD HAT Sorry to break up this school yard pissing contest, but its a few miles off topic. Was there not a thrash talking thread for this kind of nonsense.

Language please;)

mrbungle

tunney wrote: »

You must be fairly lean at that height and weight.

I highlighted some key words.

Complete versus compete.

Lean looking but oddly BF is low 15%.
Wife not a fan of the look and has asked for a more muscle build, she's not a fan of carbon fiber either so what would she know.

Have stabilised my weight at 72kg for a while now, feel that when I drop weight too fast I get sick or motivation and energy levels drop. Will probably shed another kg or 2 close to IM in the next few months.

As for complete vs compete. Complete no bother, compete, if you mean everyone born on the same day/year as my birthday, then I'm a contender.

I also buy Triathlete magazine +1 to my Triathlete status.

mloc123

elvis jones wrote: »

If you spend the time training to do a triathlon you deserve to be called a triathlete.

Nobody deserves anything, if I work really really hard at my job but am still **** do I deserve to be paid more? no.

elvis jones

mloc123 wrote: »

Nobody deserves anything, if I work really really hard at my job but am still **** do I deserve to be paid more? no.

Well do you think its right for someone to say, sorry you're not a triathlete........sorry not skinny enough ?

RayCun

Would you be less offended if he said
Good triathletes are skinny
Good runners are skinny
?
or
Triathletes should be skinny
Runners should be skinny

mloc123

elvis jones wrote: »

Well do you think its right for someone to say, sorry you're not a triathlete........sorry not skinny enough ?

Is it right? I dunno. Do I care? No.

I would certainly not consider myself one in my current fat state, I feel out of place at races and it is quite obvious I do not fit in. So if somebody told me what I already know, would it offend me? No.

mloc123

RayCun wrote: »

Triathletes should be skinny
Runners should be skinny

Nail on the head

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

elvis jones wrote: »

You made a generic statement that was wrong, i think its unfair to a lot of people who by their standards train hard to do a triathlon and then to have someone say eh you're not a triathlete you're not skinny is horse poo.

If you spend the time training to do a triathlon you deserve to be called a triathlete.

If you train so hard why ignore the big elephant in the room, methaphorically speaking.
I was a fattie, i trained hard lost weight, both generally go hand in hand assumuing the person is not lazy and eats cr@p.
Training hard and still being fat is a load of boll0x in fairness. Training hard is not just about the actual sessions its much more than that, the complete package.
And the last bit i disagree with, people deserve nothing. You got to work hard at everything...not just sport either to get anywhere in life.

elvis jones

RayCun wrote: »

Would you be less offended if he said
Good triathletes are skinny
Good runners are skinny
?
or
Triathletes should be skinny
Runners should be skinny

1. Never said i was offended, just don't like generic statements
2. The above is SPOT ON

elvis jones

Fox Straight Marijuana wrote: »

If you train so hard why ignore the big elephant in the room, methaphorically speaking.
I was a fattie, i trained hard lost weight, both generally go hand in hand assumuing the person is not lazy and eats cr@p.
Training hard and still being fat is a load of boll0x in fairness. Training hard is not just about the actual sessions its much more than that, the complete package.
And the last bit i disagree with, people deserve nothing. You got to work hard at everything...not just sport either to get anywhere in life.

100% agree but its a journey and that journey doesn't always start with a perfectly scuplted body. It can lead to do but to say someone shouldn't be considered a triathlete just because their journey hasn't reached a conclusion yet is wrong, my personal thought.

BTH

mloc123 wrote: »

Nobody deserves anything, if I work really really hard at my job but am still **** do I deserve to be paid more? no.

Unless. Unless you work in the public service..

Yes, I know I'm ignoring my own warning about off topic.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

elvis jones wrote: »

100% agree but its a journey and that journey doesn't always start with a perfectly scuplted body. It can lead to do but to say someone shouldn't be considered a triathlete just because their journey hasn't reached a conclusion yet is wrong, my personal thought.

No it does not and you are correct in saying its a journey, however i have seen numerous people fool themselves including people i have coached that never put the effort in to completing that journey!! Sometimes the habit is too hard to break and the desire to make lifestyle changes is not really there even though they pretend it is.

Threads like this that make me look at triathlon and say......nah.

I don't want to share any kind of trail, track or water with any scumbag that judges other's ability to compete on his/her physique.

What makes one scum, is how one thinks of others.

Trig1

best thread ever....love it...coming from a chunky 14st 5ft 10 triathlon competitor and I would like to think I compete!!

Oryx

Deleted User wrote: »

Threads like this that make me look at triathlon and say......nah.

I don't want to share any kind of trail, track or water with any scumbag that judges other's ability to compete on his/her physique.

What makes one scum, is how one thinks of others.

While its been put across really badly, there is a point to whats being said here. In order to become good at triathlon (or any sport) you have to look realistically at how adapted you are physically to that sport. In running and triathlon, if you are carrying extra weight, you are not at your optimum. Its something you would do well to consider as part of an overall training approach. Why make things harder on yourself than they need to be?

Does extra weight mean you are not 'a triathlete'? No. If you're swimming, biking and running in that order, I guess you're a triathlete. After that, its all about your times, baby.

There's always something to be offended about tbh. A fast guy looks at my times and says I'm slow. *cry* A 13 hour Ironman is a waste of time. *blubber* My bum looks big in a trisuit. *waaaaah!*

Unless you're in the top of this game you're only racing against yourself, so who cares?

RayCun

Oryx wrote: »

In running and triathlon, if you are carrying extra weight, you are not at your optimum.

And also worth looking at the context of the OP. It wasn't someone asking if they're too fat for triathlon, it was someone who wants to do triathlon without losing upper body muscle mass. If you want to look good lifting weights, that's your choice, but it's going to slow you down as a triathlete or a runner.

jungle jim

Deleted User wrote: »

Threads like this that make me look at triathlon and say......nah.

I don't want to share any kind of trail, track or water with any scumbag that judges other's ability to compete on his/her physique.

What makes one scum, is how one thinks of others.

well said seaslacker. athletes/competitors/people who compete/complete triathlons come in all shapes and sizes. to say you can only be a triathlete if your skinny is a ridiculous [EMAIL="tossb@statement"]statement[/EMAIL], to say the best triathletes in the word are skinny would be more correct.
To be a darts players you have to be overweight.....is this true....possibly...

Chartsengrafs

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't want to share any kind of trail, track or water with any scumbag that judges other's ability to compete on his/her physique.
QUOTE]

I get your point I think, but this applies to any sport. If you line up on a football, hurling, whatever pitch and your opposite number is 3 stone overweight, your first thought is going to be 'Grand, I'll run the legs off this fella / lady'. Of course you judge someone's ability to compete based on their physique.

woody1

so im a triathlete ( tall and thin ) cool.. even though im finishing in the back third of the pack ... whatever people are happy with themselves is fine with me but i dont consider myself a triathlete.. if im talking to people about it then its generally " ive done a triathlon / i do triathlons " not " i am a triathlete " similarly i only played football i wasnt a footballer and im not a runner.. but i do run..
to my mind a professional footballer can be called a footballer the rest of us just play football... similarly with triathletes.. pros semi pros sponsored guys that do it 7 days a week year in year out are triathletes..regardless of their weight..

hypersonic

Runners are weak.
Triathletes are weak.

sad but true.

tunney

elvis jones wrote: »

1. Never said i was offended, just don't like generic statements
2. The above is SPOT ON

Jesus if thats you not being offended I would hate to see the hissy fit that comes from being offended.

Endurance athletes are skinny.
That does not mean you cannot do endurance sports if you are fat. Just means the word "athlete" should probably be avoided.