General ongoing weather discussion thread (Warning: images)

hatrickpatrick

Thought I'd make this now that the official heatwave threads are closed (*salutes*), as they were being used for ongoing day-to-day climate and weather discussion for the last couple of weeks.
How're things looking for everyone going forward? I'm in Sandycove / Dun Laoghaire and I'm still roasting here, a lot more cloud around but really not noticing a massive difference yet.

Today's charts from Met Eireann:


Tomorrow's:


Now correct me if I'm wrong here, but on tomorrow's charts if you look at the depression's circulation, there could be a very large gap in the cloud cover despite the low pressure after a couple of days?

Also, for the ethical among us: how much rain is going to be needed to stave off drought disaster before we can start hoping for another dry spell with a clear conscience, knowing that by our hopes we're not shafting farmers, water supplies, animals, forests etc?

JM Skipton

Parts of Dublin in danger of going 22 days without rain unless some of those showers that the rest of the country are getting head this way soon.

glossy

JM Skipton wrote: »

Parts of Dublin in danger of going 22 days without rain unless some of those showers that the rest of the country are getting head this way soon.

Just drove through a heavy shower between D15 & D11.

JM Skipton

glossy wrote: »

Just drove through a heavy shower between D15 & D11.

Yeah I can see a few about but as of 4pm casement & Dublin airport have still recorded 0mm today whereas Phoenix Park is up to 1.5mm which would tie in with where you are.

maquiladora

FI alert. 12Z GFS ends with the Azores high making a return trip?



Where there's FI, there's hope. :cool:

M.T. Cranium

This seems to be the year where you can actually believe in FI speculations. The climatology of July-August correlation is on your side for the chances of a significant warm spell in August. It doesn't always work that way but the chances are about three to one that a warm July will be followed by a warm August. Also, this developing near-normal interruption looks rather shallow and some in the east may not really feel that much difference, certainly the west will be considerably cooler but this is partly down to the change in wind direction.

Call me Al

I must say here on the Atlantic coast in mayo it is markedly cooler tonight. We had heavy rain last night, and on and off all morning and afternoon. The humidity is still there but it is easier to handle with the low temp.

Must admit to feeling upbeat reading your post MTC and looking at those gorgeous charts!

Jimjay

I'm in greystones, co Wicklow. Got windows open and still sweating at 1040pm. Been very humid all day, didn't see any rain but looked like light drops on car this morning. Sun broke through early afternoon and it seems to have been as hot as recent days.

Mothman

Jimjay wrote: »

I'm in greystones, co Wicklow. Got windows open and still sweating at 1040pm. Been very humid all day, didn't see any rain but looked like light drops on car this morning. Sun broke through early afternoon and it seems to have been as hot as recent days.

A little south of Greystones and it was the 3rd warmest day of the month, max of 23.5C. No rain.
4.7mm past 31 days

Rock Lesnar

Still warm here in the North East and no rain today, it tried earlier, clouds were very dark but nothing much fell out of it, i nearly wished it had, cos i felt embarrassed for the little drops that fell.

Conmaicne Mara

Was hand shearing sheep here in the West this evening and I hardly broke a sweat, so it's a lot more comfortable working weather.

Gonzo

I think the west is a few degrees cooler than the east today and similar over next few days. Still very muggy here and another warm night to contend with.

whitebriar

Gonzo wrote: »

I think the west is a few degrees cooler than the east today and similar over next few days. Still very muggy here and another warm night to contend with.

yeah got 24c here yesterday in all day sun.
No rain for a month in Arklow now and last night it was 17c at midnight.
That's warmer at night than at day last year.
Last Saturday at midnight it was 21c ffs.

Mothman

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Was hand shearing sheep here in the West this evening and I hardly broke a sweat, so it's a lot more comfortable working weather.

:eek: Has electricity not arrived with you yet :pac:
Actually my daughter hand sheared one, just the one mind you

Min past 2 nights 15C which are the 2 warmest nights of year. During the previous 2 weeks mins were generally dropping to 10//11C

whitebriar

Mothman wrote: »

:eek: Has electricity not arrived with you yet :pac:
Actually my daughter hand sheared one, just the one mind you

Min past 2 nights 15C which are the 2 warmest nights of year. During the previous 2 weeks mins were generally dropping to 10//11C

Have you a spare room up there? No night,this past week here has gone below 15.
Sat night into Sunday min was 16 point something and as you know,I'm very rural.

Conmaicne Mara

Mothman wrote: »

:eek: Has electricity not arrived with you yet :pac:
Actually my daughter hand sheared one, just the one mind you

Min past 2 nights 15C which are the 2 warmest nights of year. During the previous 2 weeks mins were generally dropping to 10//11C

It has but when you're out on the hill shearing it's more trouble than benefit bringing generators, leads, yadda, yadda.

It's been raining here now since just before 8am, putting down a lot of water.

dopolahpec

I'm closely watching that rain band today. I hope it will deliver some moisture to the east coast which looks increasingly at risk of not copping significant drought relief from the current set up.

hatrickpatrick

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

Also, this developing near-normal interruption looks rather shallow and some in the east may not really feel that much difference, certainly the west will be considerably cooler but this is partly down to the change in wind direction.

That was one of my reasons for making the thread, I went into the heatwave thread to point out that Sandycove, Dublin has seen almost no noticeable change except for more cloud and a bit of drizzle. Still feels incredibly warm by normal standards, maybe cooler at night time than it has been, but the supposed "end of the heatwave" hasn't really hit home if you're purely talking about daytime temperature, and Met Eireann's charts at least show the current depression as having a lot of gaps in its cloud cover meaning there should be a good bit of sunshine breaking through as it rotates.

hatrickpatrick

dopolahpec wrote: »

I'm closely watching that rain band today. I hope it will deliver some moisture to the east coast which looks increasingly at risk of not copping significant drought relief from the current set up.

I was down at the seafront earlier today and the amount of dead grass is absolutely astonishing - Newtownsmith "green" looks like the floor of a barn, covered in hay and straw, with only the odd tuft still alive.
Bit surprised, would have thought grass would be more resilient! Wonder how long it'll take to reproduce enough to cover the dead patches once the rain gets going again?

Calibos

Same in Bray. Yesterday felt the hottest of the whole period to me tbh. Maybe it was higher humidity and/or less cooling sea breeze but standing at a door fiddling with a lock and the radiant heat of the sun on my back felt hotter than I have felt all July. Cloudy spells today and about 10 minutes of drizzle 2 hours ago has been our drought relief:D

JM Skipton

Agree with above, if you take casement for example from June 1st to July 23rd (53 days) that station has had 41 days with less than 1mm of rain along with 20 plus days in July with max temps above 20 degrees currently 21

Mars Bar

My sister was supposed to fly home from England yesterday but they cancelled the trains in Preston coz of the weather yesterday so she is stranded there until Saturday!

Rock Lesnar

Still no rain here, now i know all of meath has'nt escaped but us here in the north east part has'nt had a drop worth talking about, except a few spots yesterday but thats been about it, it was dry, cloudy-ish but still had a fair bit of sun today.

dopolahpec

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Still no rain here, now i know all of meath has'nt escaped but us here in the north east part has'nt had a drop worth talking about, except a few spots yesterday but thats been about it, it was dry, cloudy-ish but still had a fair bit of sun today.

I'm up around Kells this evening and medium sized trees are starting to die up around the town. No relief yet.

Israeli Superiority

dopolahpec wrote: »

I'm up around Kells this evening and medium sized trees are starting to die up around the town. No relief yet.

How's your relief for you now?

I live in Ashbourne and tonight is the first proper rain we've had.

maquiladora

Have to love the GEM this morning.

dopolahpec

maquiladora wrote: »

Have to love the GEM this morning.

Give us another 40mm of rain then let it roll

dopolahpec

Israeli Superiority wrote: »

How's your relief for you now?

I live in Ashbourne and tonight is the first proper rain we've had.

The ground looked happier this morning certainly

newballsplease

So hows it looking for the bank holiday weekend?

mike65

Whatever about the fall back in temps (though we got a decent 23 yesterday) the humidity certainly has not relented.

Larbre34

newballsplease wrote: »

So hows it looking for the bank holiday weekend?

Currently its looking similar to the last few days, maybe a few degrees cooler with showers less intense, but 7/8 days time is still FI. From about Tuesday on you will see a more definite picture

renglish

My beady little eyes scanned the current IR satellite image loop
and about 400mi SW of Bantry, we can see two lows circulating around each other getting very close to merger. One of them is going to get deeper as a result (assuming my interpretation is correct).

http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/forecast/europe/with-controls/europe-infrared-sat-loop.php

maquiladora

I have to say, even though the heatwave is over the weather still is really nice, at least down here in Waterford anyway - low 20's, lots of sunshine and beautiful cloudscapes for the past few days. Only the odd brief shower too, nothing heavy yet.

It might not be roasting but it still feels like summer when your out and about and a long way from the miserable overcast summers with frontal rain of recent years.

maquiladora

Wow, crazy ECM tonight.

Look at those uppers, +24 in the channel, +20 halfway across Wales.



For comparison, these were the uppers during the highest temperature ever recorded in the UK, 38.5 :




GEM is is crazier, +24 uppers actually make it to southeast England and +20 upper reaching as far north as Scotland.



There could be epic severe thunderstorm potential for us here to the west in that kind of setup.

Don't worry, that won't actually happen.

Comhrá

Amazingly, another monster thunderstorm moving into SW France tonight, almost a carbon-copy of last night's one and about the same time too:

http://www.sat24.com/en/fr

mike65

maquiladora wrote: »

I have to say, even though the heatwave is over the weather still is really nice, at least down here in Waterford anyway - low 20's, lots of sunshine and beautiful cloudscapes for the past few days. Only the odd brief shower too, nothing heavy yet.

It might not be roasting but it still feels like summer when your out and about and a long way from the miserable overcast summers with frontal rain of recent years.

True enough,

I'm not wearing any pants. (its is a bit humid)

Speak Now

Been a great summer in Waterford, even since the hot spell broke the heavy showers have been mainly at night. Another good summers day today.

renglish

tippman1 wrote: »

Amazingly, another monster thunderstorm moving into SW France tonight, almost a carbon-copy of last night's one and about the same time too:

http://www.sat24.com/en/fr

Jayziz. That cell is bigger than Ireland.

Comhrá

Larbre34 wrote: »

Currently its looking similar to the last few days, maybe a few degrees cooler with showers less intense, but 7/8 days time is still FI. From about Tuesday on you will see a more definite picture

Quick question please, folks.....what does "FI" stand for?

Speak Now

tippman1 wrote: »

Quick question please, folks.....what does "FI" stand for?

Fantasy island

Harps

Great week here again as well, warm and sunny everyday and only a few brief showers. I've enjoyed this week just as much as the heatwave, not as warm but with the added bonus of unpredictability and thunderstorms

Gonzo

today is propably the first very normal day we've had here in Meath in a long time, mostly cloudy, showers, brief moments of sun and only around 18-20C today. Should warm up again slightly next week.

JM Skipton

Ok we have had over a week of unsettled weather now and with ME predicting more unsettled weather for the foreseeable future it is looking like it is a case of normal service resumed.I was initially hopeful of another fine settled period but there are no indications of this in the next 10 days. So we will probably look back on this summer and say we had an excellent first 10 days of June a superb 3 weeks in July and unfortunately a showery and unsettled remainder of the summer.

April O Neill

JM Skipton wrote: »

Ok we have had over a week of unsettled weather now and with ME predicting more unsettled weather for the foreseeable future it is looking like it is a case of normal service resumed.I was initially hopeful of another fine settled period but there are no indications of this in the next 10 days. So we will probably look back on this summer and say we had an excellent first 10 days of June a superb 3 weeks in July and unfortunately a showery and unsettled remainder of the summer.

Probably. But 2006 is still remembered, and there was overall less hot, sunny weather that year.

JM Skipton

April O Neill wrote: »

Probably. But 2006 is still remembered, and there was overall less hot, sunny weather that year.

Agree with you 100% even if August is a complete washout we still have not had a better 3 weeks weather in July since 1995

SEPT 23 1989

I would describe todays weather as muck

Bsal

Just checking some weather reports on ESTOFEX and spotted this report from maynooth on the 25th, maybe Thursday we will see similar action



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Slashermcguirk

The thing is that even since the so called hot spell finished, it has been really warm every day since (certainly here in Dublin anyway). There has not been a single day where you wouldnt have got away with a tshirt. I know there have been some heavy showers of rain but not as many as expected. Could be different in other parts of the country but even today, it feels pretty warm out there. Cant think of a single day in July that over 20 degrees was not hit somewhere in Ireland.

The difference today is humidity, really heavy out there.

solas111

Is it only in backward little countries like Ireland where the national broadcaster cannot get the simplest of things right?

On a scale of 1 – 10, I would rate the departure of Pat Kenny from RTE at about 1 or 2 at most in order of importance with 10 being the highest score and I doubt if many are having sleepless nights over the issue. On the other hand, broadcasting the one o’clock news and farming weather at 13:00hrs. is of importance to many and RTE cannot get it right.

This programme is regularly shifted about and complaints to RTE fall on deaf ears. The weekly weather is one of the few things I am interested in watching on RTE and today again it was broadcast before the correct time and I missed it like many others probably did.

What sort of idiots are in charge of programme scheduling or is there anybody at all in charge at RTE. Any seven year old child could get this sort of thing right.

Duck's hoop

I THINK I know what you mean? The forecast scheduled for 12.50?

In my experience you've to tune in at 12.45 and it can be any time after that up to 12.55.

Less than ideal.

dopolahpec

I'm using this thread to post my thoughts on the possibility of an upcoming warm spell as the other thread has become a tiresome ideological battleground.

Many models now are showing a pressure rise next week, high pressure becoming a very dominant feature in the ECM and GFS in particular, from about August 20th. This is looking likely to deliver the best spell of weather since the July heatwave.

While there is little to suggest anything of that duration or intensity, there is certainly in the offing a potential spell of weather far superior again to anything we saw last year. The third such this summer, and I would not be surprised to see >25 C posted at weather stations countrywide.

If this transpires, then for me at least, 2013 will rate in the top 3 summers I can remember! and I'm 32.