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Worlds dumbest use for a firearm?

  • 12-07-2013 11:19am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭


    And this years canditate for the Darwin award in Law enforcement firearms accident category goes to...:eek::eek::eek:

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Cavan duck buster


    Well if its unloaded it can be hand for a seat :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Instant colostomy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    I sure hope there not another 8" to that barrel we can't see...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    If it goes off it will blow his brains out. :D










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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    Wait till you see this guy his gun dosent go off so what do you think he does :rolleyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbcbKN5JE8


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    1shot16 wrote: »
    Wait till you see this guy his gun dosent go off so what do you think he does :rolleyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbcbKN5JE8

    Thats like something you'd see homer simpson doing and never believe someone would do it in real life :rolleyes:. If that shot had been a couple of inches lower a village would be missing their idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    rowa wrote: »
    Thats like something you'd see homer simpson doing and never believe someone would do it in real life :rolleyes:. If that shot had been a couple of inches lower a village would be missing their idiot.

    Fair lucky he shows his hat wit the hole in it would of blown his brains out or what ever he has in his head instead of brains :P

    Thats not even the worst ive seen some girls on a bike firing a shotgun falls off and nearly shoots herself now thats something ud see it the simpsons.Who lets these people have guns :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    And this years canditate for the Darwin award in Law enforcement firearms accident category goes to...

    South African Police are not the best and brightest I'm afraid :pac:

    On the upside there are lots of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    That's only the stuff we get to see. Imagine the dumb stuff done when there's no camera around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭EWQuinn


    1shot16 wrote: »
    Wait till you see this guy his gun dosent go off so what do you think he does :rolleyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbcbKN5JE8[/QUOTE]

    YIKES!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

    What the ---- did he think he would see by looking down a long barrel?? Looks like a hangfire? Always wait at least 30 sec or more if you get a click - and FTF (unless you are in an ambush).

    There's one a little worse than that out there, a major brain cramp by someone in law enforcement, (he didn't get killed) but its potentially politically incorrect, and happened in a much, much worse setting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭One shot on kill


    EWQuinn wrote: »
    1shot16 wrote: »
    Wait till you see this guy his gun dosent go off so what do you think he does :rolleyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbcbKN5JE8[/QUOTE]

    YIKES!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

    What the ---- did he think he would see by looking down a long barrel?? Looks like a hangfire? Always wait at least 30 sec or more if you get a click - and FTF (unless you are in an ambush).

    There's one a little worse than that out there, a major brain cramp by someone in law enforcement, (he didn't get killed) but its potentially politically incorrect, and happened in a much, much worse setting.



    Any links to it.

    Hats off to him all the same. So lucky the gun was on the ground so rather than it kicking back it couldn't and the butt moved a couple of inches in a direction and changed the angle of the barrel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭EWQuinn


    I will PM you, I don't want to be the one to post it here :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    EWQuinn wrote: »
    I will PM you, I don't want to be the one to post it here :)

    Is it the one with the officer in the school,

    "I'm the only one professional enough to carry this glock 40"

    BANG SHOOTS HIMSELF

    Fairplay he carried on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    And had the audacity to sue his dept for negligence in his training as well.:eek::rolleyes:

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    And had the audacity to sue his dept for negligence in his training as well.:eek::rolleyes:

    feck sake excuses! He shouldn't have ammunition on him in a school ,in the magazine and especially in the gun :rolleyes: He even says this is a unloaded weapon check at least once never mind twice!!!

    He continues and then picks up the ar15 and everyone in the room is screaming... but its okay as hes professionally trained :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭EWQuinn


    "He continues and then picks up the ar15 and everyone in the room is screaming... but its okay as hes professionally trained"

    I figured you guys would guess it, the DEA's version of Barney Fife. Except that Barney only shot the bookcase or the floor in the courthouse.

    Yes, its what happened after the "shooting incident" both near term and long term that is as astounding as the blunder itself. One he has a wounded foot, but goes to use the shooting as part of the "safety briefing", then further, goes on to pick up the show & tell assault weapon and limp around with it. The last move scared the ---- out of the class and the teachers, them thinking the rifle might go off next. Finally the whole thing turned into a ludicrous lawsuit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭EWQuinn


    One shot on kill: "Hats off to him all the same."

    LOL, that was a good one! 2 more inches and it was heads off. He somehow pushed the barrel forward a bit just before the cook off, just in time to save his life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    1shot16 wrote: »
    feck sake excuses! He shouldn't have ammunition on him in a school ,in the magazine and especially in the gun :rolleyes: He even says this is a unloaded weapon check at least once never mind twice!!!

    He continues and then picks up the ar15 and everyone in the room is screaming... but its okay as hes professionally trained :rolleyes:

    You ,me and anyone else would be screaming too,and hitting the deck if we saw a totally "professionally trained " klutz like that picking up another firearm after shooting himself in the foot with the first one.
    How was he going to check that the M4 was safe???Do a "Bagdad check?"[ Point muzzle at 90 degrees and pull the trigger,until the mag is empty,if nothing happens,disengage saftey and repeat steps 1&2].

    Then they are worried about teachers having access to guns in the schools over in case of a mass shooting??Just hope the firearms saftey training they are getting is alot better than what the DEA is giving their agents!!:rolleyes:

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    You ,me and anyone else would be screaming too,and hitting the deck if we saw a totally "professionally trained " klutz like that picking up another firearm after shooting himself in the foot with the first one.
    How was he going to check that the M4 was safe???Do a "Bagdad check?"[ Point muzzle at 90 degrees and pull the trigger,until the mag is empty,if nothing happens,disengage saftey and repeat steps 1&2].

    Then they are worried about teachers having access to guns in the schools over in case of a mass shooting??Just hope the firearms saftey training they are getting is alot better than what the DEA is giving their agents!!:rolleyes:

    Now now, just because he was a tool on that day at that time doesn't mean all of the DEA are.

    That's like saying just because one hunter shot himself in the foot with a shotgun all hunters are absolute dopes with no training or discipline.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    How was he going to check that the M4 was safe???Do a "Bagdad check?"[ Point muzzle at 90 degrees and pull the trigger,until the mag is empty,if nothing happens,disengage saftey and repeat steps 1&2].

    He wouldn't be even capable of doing that to be honest!I wouldnt even give him a watergun :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭EWQuinn


    His lawsuit was for the agency releasing the video, supposedly violating his privacy. It was lost on appeal. Apparently he remained with agency from what I can tell, so can't feel too sorry for him.

    He was featured on Fox's Bill OReilly in '06 who questioned the wisdom of the lawsuit but game him praise for service to his country (he did undercover work).

    It was in front of a junior golf club or something like that, supposedly his own kids were in the front row. Gun safety can never be taken for granted, especially on camera, w/every gun treated as loaded. Never heard why he pulled the trigger. The bullet went into the leg, but was diverted from femural artery by something in his pocket. Apparenty there were jacket fragments spread round, luckily none hitting anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    All joking aside it is a stark reminder that complacency can kill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    bravestar wrote: »
    All joking aside it is a stark reminder that complacency can kill.

    And stupidity even quicker.....I wouldn't rate some of that stuff as complacency; to me complacency for a professional is something like checking a gun is empty but neglecting to do a full function check.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    bravestar wrote: »
    Now now, just because he was a tool on that day at that time doesn't mean all of the DEA are.

    That's like saying just because one hunter shot himself in the foot with a shotgun all hunters are absolute dopes with no training or discipline.

    :)

    Far be me to critize the DEA training, and I am not or was implying such,but one has to wonder how did a guy like that get qualified to use a firearm let alone become a DEA agent?Thing that got me was this guys ego problem,in his statement "I am the only one qualified and trained to use this pistol in this room."BANG!!!
    Not a good trait in undercover work,especially when dealing with narcotics ,or gun saftey.:)
    His lawsuit was for the agency releasing the video, supposedly violating his privacy. It was lost on appeal. Apparently he remained with agency from what I can tell, so can't feel too sorry for him.

    Thats already a bit of a joke,it wasnt like he shot himself in his house.
    It was in a public place and event,at an offically sponsored by his dept event.
    He is still with the dept...Hopefully on a permanent desk job.:p

    He was featured on Fox's Bill OReilly in '06 who questioned the wisdom of the lawsuit but game him praise for service to his country (he did undercover work).

    I guess Andy Warhol was right.Everyone is famous for ten and infamous for fifteen minutes.:PWhich is which in this guys case..

    Trouble is with my fellow Americans we give praise too much about service to our country that after awhile it becomes meaningless and genuine heroic people and events become diluted by banal events and people.:(

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭One shot on kill


    Ewquinn I got that link thanks.

    I am a trained professional "BANG"

    Ha ha ha. Very lucky man all the same the most sucking part for me was his partner was going to/gave him the ar15. That to me shows to incompitant dea agents.

    They should send a paddy over to teach them Murphy's law they obviously don't know it. Or he didn't anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    EWQuinn wrote: »

    There's one a little worse than that out there, a major brain cramp by someone in law enforcement, (he didn't get killed) but its potentially politically incorrect, and happened in a much, much worse setting.


    Why is it politically incorrect to show this video? Because the DEA agent is black?

    Would it be politically correct to show it if there was a white guy in the video?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭EWQuinn


    BattleCorp, back when it first happened it made the rounds. When I sent it to some, a couple of them found it offensive for some reason, I guess that reason. I agree with you, its just a DEA agent showing incompetence, race has nothing to do with it.

    There was an incident here recently where a police firearms instructor had a discharge in a classroom, peppered some students with copper jacket. So unfortunately this stuff happens though it shouldnt. (No video of that one that I know of.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Why is it politically incorrect to show this video? Because the DEA agent is black?

    Would it be politically correct to show it if there was a white guy in the video?

    oh dear...Well lets let another angry white Irish guy sum up the feelings of PC nes gone mad.

    Be warned proably somebody will be offended...:rolleyes:

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭cw67irl


    is the video available online?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    oh dear...Well lets let another angry white Irish guy sum up the feelings of PC nes gone mad.

    Be warned proably somebody will be offended...:rolleyes:

    Nice one Grizz :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭1shot16


    "only whites r racist" completely untrue as im slightly in a humorous way kinda like dis video :P

    Im slightly tanned look spanish so i am told but have sum Irish accent off me :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭EWQuinn


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    oh dear...Well lets let another angry white Irish guy sum up the feelings of PC nes gone mad.

    Be warned proably somebody will be offended...:rolleyes:

    Irish Need Not Apply - was the sign that greeted Irish immigrants in some stores and places of employment in America, coming to escape problems like the starvation of the famine. (Signs were I'm told also used in London at an earlier time.) My family faced some tough discrimination in the late 1800s and early 20th century where they settled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    EWQuinn wrote: »
    Irish Need Not Apply - was the sign that greeted Irish immigrants in some stores and places of employment in America, coming to escape problems like the starvation of the famine. (Signs were I'm told also used in London at an earlier time.) My family faced some tough discrimination in the late 1800s and early 20th century where they settled.

    Uh huh..And your family wouldnt have been the exception either..Anyone coming off a coffin ship or thru Ellis Island would have been greeted with this as well.

    Simple reason for this was the Irish started to dilute the work force on the Eastern seaboard cities.As there was appx one thousand per day coming into NYC..That's a serious amount of people in a city at the time of what...750K? in the 1840s.A cheap and desperate labour force is always going to cause problems for the indeginious pouplation. We have it here as well with mutterings about our EU east bloc workers...

    We had it in the UK too for the same reasons,but then again IRL/UK haven't had a very easy relationship for the last 600 years give or take.:p

    More to the point about that video clip and the DEA guy,is people play the race card for the most stupidest and trivial things and statements,usually to cover up a screw up on their part.

    Anyways lets get back to dumb things to do with shootin irons before we go totally OT.:p

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭EWQuinn


    "Anyways lets get back to dumb things to do with shootin irons before we go totally OT."

    Ok, you've probably seen this one, but its always worth a review. Wait till the end, and keep your head down....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnLue8vRYE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Seems we are on the subject...

    This one has always astounded me on so many different levels, you have 3 blokes with firearms and at least 1 with a sidearm, all 3 bottle it and ones almost ends up dying on the side of a mountain.





    You have 3 blokes right here who are totally unsuited to hunting Cape Buffalo, Asian Water Buffalo and Scrub Bulls and a few other species that if they scent you will hunt you down, and not just amble up like the pig in this clip, maybe these chaps should just stick to "Hunting" semi tame animals on Game Farms for their own safety.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    A good video about what NOT to do when hunting dangerous game, eg. Throwing your arm up in the air and running off when a cape buff decides he doesn't like you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45LHAIds5n8&feature=youtube_gdata_player


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭EWQuinn


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

    If you shoot steel targets, watch your range to the target. Never shoot at anything hard too close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    The Aussie wrote: »
    Seems we are on the subject...

    This one has always astounded me on so many different levels, you have 3 blokes with firearms and at least 1 with a sidearm, all 3 bottle it and ones almost ends up dying on the side of a mountain.





    You have 3 blokes right here who are totally unsuited to hunting Cape Buffalo, Asian Water Buffalo and Scrub Bulls and a few other species that if they scent you will hunt you down, and not just amble up like the pig in this clip, maybe these chaps should just stick to "Hunting" semi tame animals on Game Farms for their own safety.

    Some serious arc of fire issues there alright.


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