Filth

IvaBigWun

So the reading order should go: Skagboys --> Trainspotting (I havent read it in about 15 years so I might revisit) --> Porno?

FloatingVoter

IvaBigWun wrote: »

So the reading order should go: Skagboys --> Trainspotting (I havent read it in about 15 years so I might revisit) --> Porno?

Fictionally thats chronological. Publishing wise its Trainspotting..., Porno........then long wait until Skagboys.

I'd read Trainspotting first...then Skagboys. Get to know the crew at their best and worst then get to know how they arrived there.

Porno is a side read. It won't change your life unless you're mired in the middle of a Film Studies course studying Japanese cinema of the 1950s (when you just know you could have some fun and money if only they'd let you near the expensive gear and the editing suite).

Irvine Welsh introduces the characters in Trainspotting. That's the launchpad for those of us who grew up on the stuff.

Failing that...just watch Filth. It certainly beats Amber part 4.

DazMarz

I watched Filth again and still love it.

The scenes that always crack me up are:

-"Peter Inglis is what they call 'metrosexual'... <Cut to Bruce's daydream of Inglis dancing in a gay club in a pair of ass-less leather chaps, leather jacket, leather cap and sunglasses> or what I like to call 'a fúcking buftie'..."

-Bruce

pays a gay guy to pretend to know Peter Inglis in a nightclub and the resultant fist fight between Inglis and Dougie Gillman "Get your fúcking face of my cock, ya FÚCKING COCK-SUCKER!!!"

Classic.

That said, the book is infinitely better. So many times when I read the book (I've re-read it so many times), I just crack up laughing at the internal monologue and/or the situations.

I particularly love the description Bruce gives as he's running away from a screaming lover: "I nash like fúck across the icy car park". 'Nash like fúck'... So using that. He then describes humming the "Benny Hill" theme while doing so, before turning around, using fancy footwork, dodging around her and leaving her on her hands and knees, screaming after him.

He's so detestable as a person but it is so deliciously depraved and black comedy, that I just cannot help but laugh at it.

salacious crumb

^^ There's a couple of cameos from the Trainspotting crew in Glue, which is also the book in which we are introduced to the legend (ie. dickhead) that is "Juice" Terry Lawton :pac:

Looper007

The scenes that I loved are probably the most obvious

The trip to Germany with Eddie marsan been spiked by James Mcavoy had me in stiches as did the Christmas party. The David Soul cameo was funny as well.

Totally bonkers of a film with a top notch performance from James Mcavoy, who really did a great job at making us feel a little sorry for such a horrible character plus what a awesome support cast with Eddie Marsan and Shirley Henderson nearly stealing the show. Fair play to Jamie Bell too playing such a sad little character in what was basically a cameo. Mcavoy has been awesome in 2013 with this and Trance, he's got himself back on track.

Best Irvine Welsh adaption since Trainspotting. Got to Say I loved Acid House as well but that seems to get a lot of hate.

FloatingVoter

I did like James McAvoy in this. His problem is he would not frighten me in a pub fight. But back when I read the book, I always pictured older and uglier. As someone else said Robert Carlyle (doing a beggars). But I was always picturing Ray Winstone while I was reading. I could see him becoming consumed by a tapeworm. Thats the glory of books, as Brendan O' Carroll said about radio "the pictures are better".
And yes, I'm aware of the accent problem. A schizoid Scot gone cockney, all the better.

Two amazon packaged arrived this morning, the first contained Dark Star, Fast and Furious 6 and sadly a copy of the remake of The Talking of Phelam One Two Three. For the second time in a week amazon have shipped me the wrong item and rather than sit down and watch the classic Water Matthau film I instead had the rather generic and banal remake. Still I was a little optimistic about package two as I had no idea what was in it as I'd got no dispatch email so assumed that it was my replacement copy of Wings. Was quite surprised to find that it contained the Blu-Ray of Filth which I ordered way back when I missed it in the cinema and then promptly forgot about.

Easily the best Irvine Welsh adaptation since Trainspotting, which really doesn't say all that much when you consider that Ecstasy and The Acid House were both pretty terrible. Filth is a dark, depraved and rather funny tale that follows the misadventures of a copper suffering from bipolar, multiple personality disorder, drug addiction and no doubt a dozen other illness best filed under mental health.

McAvoy is absolutely fantastic and while he's proven himself a capable actor in the past, here he delivers a performances for the ages. His ability to go from calm and lucid to balls to the walls insane in the blink of an eye is astonishing to watch. He has a number of great moments in the film but the best has to be his phone call to Bunty which is just a wonderful piece of depravity that showcases just how much range he has as an action. The rest of the cast is pretty much a whose who of the best British and Scottish talent working today. Eddie Marsan delivers another of his sniveling losers which at this stage he could do in his sleep. Jamie Bell goes against type and delivers one of the most watchable performances in quite some time. There's something strangely uplifting about just how pathetic a character he his.

Broadbent is less successful thought that's more to do with his scenes than performances. The films tonal shifts are both it's most satisfying and disappointing element. Throughout the first half the use of hallucinations and nightmares fell awkward and distracting and have no real bearing on the plot. They feel like the director showing off and while they do come into their own during the latter half of the film but early on they drag. Filth feels very much like a film in search of a broader canvas.

No doubt made on a low budget the film feels intimate in a which that does the film a disservice. There's no real sense of scope and while the film is one of 2013's most interesting and fun, one can't help but feel that with a bit more money and a more adventurous approach that this could really have been something exceptional. Still, Filth is a bloody good time and features some rather memorable imagery and an exceptional performance from McAcoy. Filth is strangely melancholic and life affirming while at the same time being bat **** crazy in a way we rarely see.

R P McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Two amazon packaged arrived this morning, the first contained Dark Star, Fast and Furious 6 and sadly a copy of the remake of The Talking of Phelam One Two Three. For the second time in a week amazon have shipped me the wrong item and rather than sit down and watch the classic Water Matthau film I instead had the rather generic and banal remake. Still I was a little optimistic about package two as I had no idea what was in it as I'd got no dispatch email so assumed that it was my replacement copy of Wings. Was quite surprised to find that it contained the Blu-Ray of Filth which I ordered way back when I missed it in the cinema and then promptly forgot about.

Easily the best Irvine Welsh adaptation since Trainspotting, which really doesn't say all that much when you consider that Ecstasy and The Acid House were both pretty terrible. Filth is a dark, depraved and rather funny tale that follows the misadventures of a copper suffering from bipolar, multiple personality disorder, drug addiction and no doubt a dozen other illness best filed under mental health.

McAvoy is absolutely fantastic and while he's proven himself a capable actor in the past, here he delivers a performances for the ages. His ability to go from calm and lucid to balls to the walls insane in the blink of an eye is astonishing to watch. He has a number of great moments in the film but the best has to be his phone call to Bunty which is just a wonderful piece of depravity that showcases just how much range he has as an action. The rest of the cast is pretty much a whose who of the best British and Scottish talent working today. Eddie Marsan delivers another of his sniveling losers which at this stage he could do in his sleep. Jamie Bell goes against type and delivers one of the most watchable performances in quite some time. There's something strangely uplifting about just how pathetic a character he his.

Broadbent is less successful thought that's more to do with his scenes than performances. The films tonal shifts are both it's most satisfying and disappointing element. Throughout the first half the use of hallucinations and nightmares fell awkward and distracting and have no real bearing on the plot. They feel like the director showing off and while they do come into their own during the latter half of the film but early on they drag. Filth feels very much like a film in search of a broader canvas.

No doubt made on a low budget the film feels intimate in a which that does the film a disservice. There's no real sense of scope and while the film is one of 2013's most interesting and fun, one can't help but feel that with a bit more money and a more adventurous approach that this could really have been something exceptional. Still, Filth is a bloody good time and features some rather memorable imagery and an exceptional performance from McAcoy. Filth is strangely melancholic and life affirming while at the same time being bat **** crazy in a way we rarely see.

Any idea when the last line of dialogue was?

Sam Mac

I absolutely loved this film!

McAvoy's best performance IMO.

drunkmonkey

Only watching this now, brilliant : )

R P McMurphy

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Only watching this now, brilliant : )

Try to catch the last line of dialogue and post it up. Can't get it

drunkmonkey

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Try to catch the last line of dialogue and post it up. Can't get it

It'll be about 20 minutes. He's just banging bunty.

R P McMurphy

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It'll be about 20 minutes. He's just banging bunty.

Ha ha yeah remember that bit. Terrific movie

drunkmonkey

He said the same rules apply. Not sure what he's on about though.

R P McMurphy

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He said the same rules apply. Not sure what he's on about though.

Ah thanks. Couldnt make it out. Will have to read the book again.

drunkmonkey

I got the book when it came out but my mother threw it out, had it bookmarked at really the wrong page. Christ she must have thought I was demonic looking back.

TerrorFirmer

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He said the same rules apply. Not sure what he's on about though.

He looks at the camera and says "Same rules apply" with a laugh before he does it.

Basically, for him there was no point putting hope in, or getting into, another relationship when he knew he'd just **** that one up as he did the one with his wife.

Such an unbelievable movie. Still one of the best I've seen the past few years.

manlad

Watched this last night and really enjoyed it. I loved James McAvoy's performance, he really took it up a notch for this one. Also and not to take anything away his performance I thought Ewan McGregor would have been a good choice to play the part Bruce as well.

Sirsok

Just watched this tonight. Very enjoyable film, I have seen McAvoy in other films but never been blown away however he was immense in this. Felt the same way when I watched Bronson with Tom Hardy.

Great dark sinister film which took me in a journey that constantly diverted from it's course to arrive at a destination I was not expecting.

Very enjoyable and a good cast also.

Sam Mac

The ending still confuses me to this day, due a rewatch soon methinks.

OldeCinemaSoz

What can you say about a disc whose deleted scenes are as amusing as the feature?

Only UNDER THE SKIN pips the post as film of the year to this BEAUTY. NEBRASKA comes in at NUMBER 3.

SCOTLAND THE BRAVE? They sure proved THAT LAST NIGHT!

10/10

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OldeCinemaSoz

It's a great little film. One i'll come back to again and again. I've being rec'ing it to all
the lads at work. Poor little c.....