Filth

Basq

Not-Safe-For-Work-Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tymWDB7gtK4

Really like the look of this!

Based on a novel by Irvine Welsh- and stars James McAvoy, Jamie Bell, Jim Broadbent and the always under-rated Eddie Marsan.

Looks just the right amount of odd visuals and black humour.

Mickeroo

I read the book in my teens, never would have pictured someone like McEvoy in the role, but the trailer looks pretty funny and very much in the spirit of the book. Looking forward to it.

Ash.J.Williams

Basq wrote: »

Not-Safe-For-Work-Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tymWDB7gtK4

Really like the look of this!

Based on a novel by Irvine Welsh- and stars James McAvoy, Jamie Bell, Jim Broadbent and the always under-rated Eddie Marsan.

Looks just the right amount of odd visuals and black humour.

Eddie Marsan is f**ing brilliant! Unforgetable face too, i remember he was in an episode of "game on"!

Mickeroo

I hope they don't leave out

the tape worm that talks to him in his head

D-FENS

Can’t wait for this, read Skag Boys recently so back in the Welsh frame of mind big time

I always seen the lead in Filth as an older man in his 40’s, pictured someone like Ken Stott or Brian Cox in the role, dare I say even Gerard Butler if they wanted a slightly younger, better looking and safer option (It actually would have been a brilliant role for Butler to attempt, would have loved to see some of his female fans’ reaction to the antics of Bruce Robertson in Filth) but in fairness McAvoy looks to be able to pull it off here, I have enjoyed him in some roles

The trailer makes this story seem quite light hearted but at times the book was pretty dark, and I too hope

the tapeworm

is included, I would have said it was essential actually, along with the fact that

the story narrative involving his wife is really him in drag all along, but they look have included this , I think the blond woman in the car is meant to be him, or a mental imagine of him as his wife

Agree that Marsan is brilliant, could be a good year with him with World’s End out too. Watched him in Junkheads last week, great performance.

DazMarz

Getting released here in a couple of days. Can't wait for it. It has gotten pretty positive reviews so far.

Apparently McAvoy is superb in the role. Always rated him as an actor who could do any role, and the role of Bruce Robertson (for anyone who has read the book) is a role that is so depraved and morally bankrupt that it requires a huge effort from the actor.

Can't wait to see it!

EDIT: Just booked my tickets to go and see it on Saturday night.... yeow!!!

budgemook

Nice one. Really liked the book, will be interesting to see how it translates, especially bit mentioned in spoilers above.

Booooontayy!

Bruce is some feckin filth bag alright.

salacious crumb

I always pictured Bruce as being in his 50s, so was surprised to hear that James McEvoy was playing him, although he is a great actor (I actually thought he was Irish the first time I saw him in a movie, Inside I'm Dancing).

Actually saw the trailer in the cinema last week, and started reading the book again. Hadn't read it since it was released, and by christ he is a f*ckin mankbag :pac:

I really hope this is gonna be great.

mike65

Look forward to the Daily Mail review!

JP Liz V1

Looks like Bad Lieutenant

salacious crumb

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Looks like Bad Lieutenant

I hope you mean the Harvey Keitel one :pac:

mike65

Peter Bradshaw gives it two stars in the Guardian, so it must be pretty decent.

johnny_ultimate

Imaginative and enjoyable, but wildly uneven.

The tonal shifts are equal parts satisfying and awkward. The slow morph from dark comedy to full-on psychological nightmare is a consistently curious one, but sometimes the seams are too obvious. Some of the more fantastical sequences - such as the Broadbent psychiatrist nightmares - feel incredibly awkward and stilted, sticking out like a sore thumb for the majority of the opening half. In the last half hour, though, things finally achieve a sort of stylistic coherence as fantasy and reality violently clash. Sharp, disquieting editing and an increasingly unsettled performance from McAvoy make it compelling viewing, that owes as much to David Lynch as it does to any other influences. It takes a while to get there, but somewhere along the line Filth does emerge confidently a strange, disturbing and moderately complex portrayal of a man

crippled with multiple personality disorder, bipolar and probably any other serious mental health issue one could attempt to diagnose

.

Having not read the novel, I can confess I got serious Bad Lieutenant deja vu on more than one occasion - indeed, the narrative progression and characterisation of Bruce are near identical at times to both divergent interpretations of that particular tale. It does, thankfully, have its own wicked sense of humour at times, even if the opening scenes feel a touch too broad and wacky; it took me a good while to settle into the film's unique tone, and even then it swerved in different with crazy frequency.

The film's go-for-broke approach certainly makes this well worth a gander, alongside McAvoy's '**** it, anything goes' performance. It occasionally veers too much towards absolute ridiculousness, multiple moments fall flat and an extended denouncement does give the impression the film has expended its energy (admittedly appropriate given the context). It could also possibly have used a larger budget / better cinematographer - despite some brilliant editing, there are many moments when the film's visuals lack punch, and there's even a tendency towards overexposure in early scenes (possibly purposefully, but not entirely convincingly). Still, the experience is wild and fascinating: dark, weird, entertaining, different. If it falls short in some areas, it has plenty of manic intensity to offer elsewhere.

razorblunt

Living in Edinburgh it was released a few weeks early here. I went along not knowing what to expect, never read a review or the book and I certainly didn't like McAvoy. I thought this was fantastic, so different to anything I expected and McAvoy is superb.

ButtersSuki

I haven't seen it yet (hope to next week) but from the teaser alone I'm hoping some auld biddy goes to see it this weekend and rings Joe Duffy on Monday.

Edit: oh, meant to say, there's a fee copy of the book in this month's Esquire if anyone's interested?

DazMarz

Saw it tonight. Obviously I still prefer the depravity of the book. But like several films adapted from novels (especially where the content of the book is so graphic and depraved that it would be nigh on impossible to translate a lot of it onto the screen; American Psycho springs to mind), the film does do enough justice to the source material to make it worthwhile.

McAvoy is superb as the anti-hero Bruce "Robbo" Robertson. The depths to which he sinks in his misanthropic activities and the look he has that suggests he could erupt like a volcano at any second are perfectly captured by McAvoy.

One big thing that is missing from the film is Bruce's internal monologue from the novel. Yes, it's there in some cases, but sometimes it would be brilliant to see how he is acting in one way while thinking something different a bit more often.

For a fan of the novel, it was a treat to watch. Some might find it a bit too strange and out there, but it is a brilliant piece of dark comedy.

smurgen

Thought it was brilliant, even if it was a bit all over the place at times. Love these harsh, dark ,gritty movies. A breath of fresh air from the crap Hollywood is passing off as entertainment these days.

salacious crumb

Gonna go tonight. Really looking forward to it.

duckworth

This was very mixed - some great bits, but on the whole it didn't gel. The tone was all over the place. Weirdly, for a film that is trying to be a satire, it was the serious moments in the middle that were the best parts.

The hallucinations didn't work at all, and there were just too many strands going on to make it engaging.

I read the book years ago, and always had the picture of Robert Carlyle in the main role, Begbie-style, so it was a bit hard to warm to McEvoy. He was very good in it though, but it could have a much better film.

candy-gal1

Saw this tonight and I FCUKING LOVED IT!!!!

Really entertaining, kinda real in lots of ways but still out there, and a really awesome soundtrack, 10/10, would go and see it again, and again methinks!

salacious crumb

Hmmm. I thought it was ok, but not great. There was loads missing from the book, and even the stuff that was in it was all over the place.
Granted, there was some stuff in the book that there's no way they would have been able to get into a movie, but still..

no tapeworm

McEvoy was great though, and Shirley Henderson was great as always.

TerrorFirmer

Incredible movie. Best I've seen in the cinema in a long time. Astounded by how much good it was, even going into it with reasonable expectations. A rare gem.

MetalDog

Saw this last night and really enjoyed it.
Again I was skeptical of MacAvoy in the title role, having read the book about 10 years ago I'd pictured a guy at least in his 40's (at the time!) for the role.
Robert Carlyle, Gary Oldman, David Thewlis maybe?

But like Heath Ledger in the Dark Knight, he's great, over the top, maniacal, gurning ready to explode, and was apparently geniunely hungover for some scenes; yet he manages to make you sympathise with him - and the supporting cast is perfect.

Couple of minor things:

the tapeworm in his gut is omitted, In the book Bunty is a plus-sized "voluptous" girl but Shirley Henderson's kooky performance makes up for this.

but other than that, I think it deserves a second watch, and as a poster above said, if it offends the Joe Duffy fan club, that's an added bonus.

"Filth, Joe, Filth. I'm tellin' ye Joe. Filth . . "

IvaBigWun

Saw this over the last few days and I remember checking how much of it was left at the halfway point - never a good sign.

I had read the book many years ago and had forgotten most of it, the twist of the story coming to me seconds before I saw it. That said, there wasnit enough to pique my interest or even get it warmed up.

In an ideal world there would be a contract made with Irivine Welsh and Danny Boyle where only the latter can direct films based on his stories

A mess of a movie that was akin to a "made for TV" production

4/10

FloatingVoter

Its good. Wolf of Wall Street with trannies and tapeworms in. Those of us who've read the books and seen Trainspotting need to see Porno / Filth / Skagboys in a decent Lord of the Rings size trilogy. It'll be a mess. but oh Rents what a glorious mess.
We'll tax the ****ing accountants and account for the taxman, and where the **** did we bury Begbie. Or did we ?
Danny Boyle to direct. Ewan can bring his lightsabre. Sickboy can stop pretending to be Sherlock off the junk..solving crimes or whathaveyou and make a wee comeback.
I'd suggest a cameo for Mel Gibson / W.Wallace esq. as he's on hard times at the moment.

IvaBigWun

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Its good. Wolf of Wall Street with trannies and tapeworms in. Those of us who've read the books and seen Trainspotting need to see Porno / Filth / Skagboys in a decent Lord of the Rings size trilogy. It'll be a mess. but oh Rents what a glorious mess.
We'll tax the ****ing accountants and account for the taxman, and where the **** did we bury Begbie.

Well thanks for ruining that

Begbie dies sometime

in the other two books

A quick Google would suggest that Danny Boyle plans to shoot Porno with a view to a 2016 release date, apparently he wants the actors to age enough to look the part.

I havent read either of the Trainspotting sequels - are they any good?

FloatingVoter

Porno is laugh out loud funny. Basically a masterplan to make a DIY porn movie with the cast of Trainspotting as screenwriters / directors / actors.

Skagboys is darker and ten years on. There are laughs but of a grimmer variety.

Well worth a read, both of them.

budgemook

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Porno is laugh out loud funny. Basically a masterplan to make a DIY porn movie with the cast of Trainspotting as screenwriters / directors / actors.

Skagboys is darker and ten years on. There are laughs but of a grimmer variety.

Well worth a read, both of them.

Do you mean it was written 10 years on? Wikipedia says it's a prequel to Trainspotting.

Porno is well worth a read, must read skagboys. I remember hearing it was out but never got it. Think Filth has a sort of sequel too, about your man Ray Lennox.

FloatingVoter

budgemook wrote: »

Do you mean it was written 10 years on? Wikipedia says it's a prequel to Trainspotting.

Porno is well worth a read, must read skagboys. I remember hearing it was out but never got it. Think Filth has a sort of sequel too, about your man Ray Lennox.

Yeah...you're right. prequel...10 years back - miners strikes and things. Porno is comedy set after Trainspotting, Skagboys is how screwed things up get to get where they are.

Begbie is never dead. He is like the glue in wallpaper. Always there...rotting away.

Mint Sauce

Havn't seen this yet, but slightly embarrassed to say I have been confusing it with Porno. When I heard it (filth) being billed as the squel to Trainspotting, I was saying to my self I cant watch it till reading the book.

On watching the trailer, just remebered its not the sequel, and I have already read it.

Really must seek it out now, looks brilliant. Which also reminds me, must read Porno incase that movie is made.

orchidsrpretty

budgemook wrote: »

Do you mean it was written 10 years on? Wikipedia says it's a prequel to Trainspotting.

Porno is well worth a read, must read skagboys. I remember hearing it was out but never got it. Think Filth has a sort of sequel too, about your man Ray Lennox.

Yeah skagboys is a prequel to train spotting. And Crime is a book about Ray Lennox. Both we'll worth a read.

IvaBigWun

So the reading order should go: Skagboys --> Trainspotting (I havent read it in about 15 years so I might revisit) --> Porno?

FloatingVoter

IvaBigWun wrote: »

So the reading order should go: Skagboys --> Trainspotting (I havent read it in about 15 years so I might revisit) --> Porno?

Fictionally thats chronological. Publishing wise its Trainspotting..., Porno........then long wait until Skagboys.

I'd read Trainspotting first...then Skagboys. Get to know the crew at their best and worst then get to know how they arrived there.

Porno is a side read. It won't change your life unless you're mired in the middle of a Film Studies course studying Japanese cinema of the 1950s (when you just know you could have some fun and money if only they'd let you near the expensive gear and the editing suite).

Irvine Welsh introduces the characters in Trainspotting. That's the launchpad for those of us who grew up on the stuff.

Failing that...just watch Filth. It certainly beats Amber part 4.

DazMarz

I watched Filth again and still love it.

The scenes that always crack me up are:

-"Peter Inglis is what they call 'metrosexual'... <Cut to Bruce's daydream of Inglis dancing in a gay club in a pair of ass-less leather chaps, leather jacket, leather cap and sunglasses> or what I like to call 'a fúcking buftie'..."

-Bruce

pays a gay guy to pretend to know Peter Inglis in a nightclub and the resultant fist fight between Inglis and Dougie Gillman "Get your fúcking face of my cock, ya FÚCKING COCK-SUCKER!!!"

Classic.

That said, the book is infinitely better. So many times when I read the book (I've re-read it so many times), I just crack up laughing at the internal monologue and/or the situations.

I particularly love the description Bruce gives as he's running away from a screaming lover: "I nash like fúck across the icy car park". 'Nash like fúck'... So using that. He then describes humming the "Benny Hill" theme while doing so, before turning around, using fancy footwork, dodging around her and leaving her on her hands and knees, screaming after him.

He's so detestable as a person but it is so deliciously depraved and black comedy, that I just cannot help but laugh at it.

salacious crumb

^^ There's a couple of cameos from the Trainspotting crew in Glue, which is also the book in which we are introduced to the legend (ie. dickhead) that is "Juice" Terry Lawton :pac:

Looper007

The scenes that I loved are probably the most obvious

The trip to Germany with Eddie marsan been spiked by James Mcavoy had me in stiches as did the Christmas party. The David Soul cameo was funny as well.

Totally bonkers of a film with a top notch performance from James Mcavoy, who really did a great job at making us feel a little sorry for such a horrible character plus what a awesome support cast with Eddie Marsan and Shirley Henderson nearly stealing the show. Fair play to Jamie Bell too playing such a sad little character in what was basically a cameo. Mcavoy has been awesome in 2013 with this and Trance, he's got himself back on track.

Best Irvine Welsh adaption since Trainspotting. Got to Say I loved Acid House as well but that seems to get a lot of hate.

FloatingVoter

I did like James McAvoy in this. His problem is he would not frighten me in a pub fight. But back when I read the book, I always pictured older and uglier. As someone else said Robert Carlyle (doing a beggars). But I was always picturing Ray Winstone while I was reading. I could see him becoming consumed by a tapeworm. Thats the glory of books, as Brendan O' Carroll said about radio "the pictures are better".
And yes, I'm aware of the accent problem. A schizoid Scot gone cockney, all the better.

Two amazon packaged arrived this morning, the first contained Dark Star, Fast and Furious 6 and sadly a copy of the remake of The Talking of Phelam One Two Three. For the second time in a week amazon have shipped me the wrong item and rather than sit down and watch the classic Water Matthau film I instead had the rather generic and banal remake. Still I was a little optimistic about package two as I had no idea what was in it as I'd got no dispatch email so assumed that it was my replacement copy of Wings. Was quite surprised to find that it contained the Blu-Ray of Filth which I ordered way back when I missed it in the cinema and then promptly forgot about.

Easily the best Irvine Welsh adaptation since Trainspotting, which really doesn't say all that much when you consider that Ecstasy and The Acid House were both pretty terrible. Filth is a dark, depraved and rather funny tale that follows the misadventures of a copper suffering from bipolar, multiple personality disorder, drug addiction and no doubt a dozen other illness best filed under mental health.

McAvoy is absolutely fantastic and while he's proven himself a capable actor in the past, here he delivers a performances for the ages. His ability to go from calm and lucid to balls to the walls insane in the blink of an eye is astonishing to watch. He has a number of great moments in the film but the best has to be his phone call to Bunty which is just a wonderful piece of depravity that showcases just how much range he has as an action. The rest of the cast is pretty much a whose who of the best British and Scottish talent working today. Eddie Marsan delivers another of his sniveling losers which at this stage he could do in his sleep. Jamie Bell goes against type and delivers one of the most watchable performances in quite some time. There's something strangely uplifting about just how pathetic a character he his.

Broadbent is less successful thought that's more to do with his scenes than performances. The films tonal shifts are both it's most satisfying and disappointing element. Throughout the first half the use of hallucinations and nightmares fell awkward and distracting and have no real bearing on the plot. They feel like the director showing off and while they do come into their own during the latter half of the film but early on they drag. Filth feels very much like a film in search of a broader canvas.

No doubt made on a low budget the film feels intimate in a which that does the film a disservice. There's no real sense of scope and while the film is one of 2013's most interesting and fun, one can't help but feel that with a bit more money and a more adventurous approach that this could really have been something exceptional. Still, Filth is a bloody good time and features some rather memorable imagery and an exceptional performance from McAcoy. Filth is strangely melancholic and life affirming while at the same time being bat **** crazy in a way we rarely see.

R P McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Two amazon packaged arrived this morning, the first contained Dark Star, Fast and Furious 6 and sadly a copy of the remake of The Talking of Phelam One Two Three. For the second time in a week amazon have shipped me the wrong item and rather than sit down and watch the classic Water Matthau film I instead had the rather generic and banal remake. Still I was a little optimistic about package two as I had no idea what was in it as I'd got no dispatch email so assumed that it was my replacement copy of Wings. Was quite surprised to find that it contained the Blu-Ray of Filth which I ordered way back when I missed it in the cinema and then promptly forgot about.

Easily the best Irvine Welsh adaptation since Trainspotting, which really doesn't say all that much when you consider that Ecstasy and The Acid House were both pretty terrible. Filth is a dark, depraved and rather funny tale that follows the misadventures of a copper suffering from bipolar, multiple personality disorder, drug addiction and no doubt a dozen other illness best filed under mental health.

McAvoy is absolutely fantastic and while he's proven himself a capable actor in the past, here he delivers a performances for the ages. His ability to go from calm and lucid to balls to the walls insane in the blink of an eye is astonishing to watch. He has a number of great moments in the film but the best has to be his phone call to Bunty which is just a wonderful piece of depravity that showcases just how much range he has as an action. The rest of the cast is pretty much a whose who of the best British and Scottish talent working today. Eddie Marsan delivers another of his sniveling losers which at this stage he could do in his sleep. Jamie Bell goes against type and delivers one of the most watchable performances in quite some time. There's something strangely uplifting about just how pathetic a character he his.

Broadbent is less successful thought that's more to do with his scenes than performances. The films tonal shifts are both it's most satisfying and disappointing element. Throughout the first half the use of hallucinations and nightmares fell awkward and distracting and have no real bearing on the plot. They feel like the director showing off and while they do come into their own during the latter half of the film but early on they drag. Filth feels very much like a film in search of a broader canvas.

No doubt made on a low budget the film feels intimate in a which that does the film a disservice. There's no real sense of scope and while the film is one of 2013's most interesting and fun, one can't help but feel that with a bit more money and a more adventurous approach that this could really have been something exceptional. Still, Filth is a bloody good time and features some rather memorable imagery and an exceptional performance from McAcoy. Filth is strangely melancholic and life affirming while at the same time being bat **** crazy in a way we rarely see.

Any idea when the last line of dialogue was?

Sam Mac

I absolutely loved this film!

McAvoy's best performance IMO.

drunkmonkey

Only watching this now, brilliant : )

R P McMurphy

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Only watching this now, brilliant : )

Try to catch the last line of dialogue and post it up. Can't get it

drunkmonkey

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Try to catch the last line of dialogue and post it up. Can't get it

It'll be about 20 minutes. He's just banging bunty.

R P McMurphy

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It'll be about 20 minutes. He's just banging bunty.

Ha ha yeah remember that bit. Terrific movie

drunkmonkey

He said the same rules apply. Not sure what he's on about though.

R P McMurphy

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He said the same rules apply. Not sure what he's on about though.

Ah thanks. Couldnt make it out. Will have to read the book again.

drunkmonkey

I got the book when it came out but my mother threw it out, had it bookmarked at really the wrong page. Christ she must have thought I was demonic looking back.

TerrorFirmer

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He said the same rules apply. Not sure what he's on about though.

He looks at the camera and says "Same rules apply" with a laugh before he does it.

Basically, for him there was no point putting hope in, or getting into, another relationship when he knew he'd just **** that one up as he did the one with his wife.

Such an unbelievable movie. Still one of the best I've seen the past few years.

manlad

Watched this last night and really enjoyed it. I loved James McAvoy's performance, he really took it up a notch for this one. Also and not to take anything away his performance I thought Ewan McGregor would have been a good choice to play the part Bruce as well.

Sirsok

Just watched this tonight. Very enjoyable film, I have seen McAvoy in other films but never been blown away however he was immense in this. Felt the same way when I watched Bronson with Tom Hardy.

Great dark sinister film which took me in a journey that constantly diverted from it's course to arrive at a destination I was not expecting.

Very enjoyable and a good cast also.

Sam Mac

The ending still confuses me to this day, due a rewatch soon methinks.