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Dancing on Ice 2014
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09-07-2013 1:38pm#1
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It's probably wise to call it quits when your "all stars" series still manages to consist of nobodies.
To be pedantic, they're calling it quits because the last two series didn't do very well.
Would be nice if they could lure Holly Willoughby back for this final series. After all, The Voice is floundering, and no-one likes Christine Bleakley... 0 -
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So the only previous winners not taking part are Gaynor Faye (series 1) and Matthew Wolfenden (series 7).
I presume they were invited, but they declined?
Kyran's the only celebrity from series 2, and Sam likewise from series 6. In both cases, that's probably good: among the other celebs in series 2 were Ulrika-ka-ka-ka and Kay Burley from Sky News, while Kerry Bl00dy Katona and Denise Bl00dy Welch were among the others in series 6.
Similarly, with MW not participating, Jorgie's the only celeb from series 7 - which on the whole was very unspectacular.
Series 3, though, was probably the best series - so no real surprise that three of its celebs are taking part (Suzanne, Zaraah and Gareth).
Already the bookmakers have set up the usual markets - and all of them make Ray the early favourite. Ladbrokes have him at 5/4 to win, while Paddy Power and Coral are each offering 6/4, and William Hill 13/8.
Hayley's the second-favourite at between 3/1 and 4/1, followed by Sam, Kyran, Suzanne and Beth. Not surprisingly, Joe and Todd are rank outsiders, Ladbrokes offering as much as 250/1 for Todd.
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Anyone watching???
Thought the end of last week's show was bizarre.... Jorgie in tears, having said all sorts of stupid things in the course of interviews, and yer man standing like a stone with a face that would sour milk on him.... clearly that was NOT a partnership made in heaven!!!
That poor Scottish fella whose name escapes me, doing his shoulder again - he's one of my favourite pros, and out he goes again!
Couldn't believe how much the awful Joe Pasquale has improved - will that Eastenders fella have improved similarly or just wobble off into oblivion this week?
Delighted to have something to look forward to at the weekends again, especially since it doesn't involve Brucie 0 -
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HeidiHeidi wrote: »Delighted to have something to look forward to at the weekends again, especially since it doesn't involve Brucie
Haitch gee haitch...
Anyway, with 14 former contestants, I guess it made sense to have seven of them take to the ice in the first episode and the other seven in the second, with two being eliminated in each.
As it happened, the four to go were all non-champions. Of the two making automatic exits, Jorgie clearly didn't impress the public as much as she impressed the judges, while David didn't really impress anybody. And of the two departing after skate-offs, Gary didn't stand much of a chance against former champ Sam, while Jason, Robin, Karen and Ashley must have been aware that the chances of a backlash if they saved Joe and not Bonnie were high.
The other former winners sailed through, however, and the bookies still make Ray the favourite to be the Ultimate Champion. In fact, he's now odds-on - Paddy Power, Ladbrokes and Coral all currently offer 5/6, and William Hill 10/11. Suzanne has become the second-favourite at around 7/2 following her high-scoring opening performance, with Hayley next at around 5/1.
Todd unsurprisingly remains a rank outsider, while Gareth's and Bonnie's respective odds are also pretty long.
But the fact that no-one posted on this thread during the first episode suggests that not a lot of people watched it. And, sure enough, the figures for that episode were low. Very low.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/06/sherlock-dancing-on-ice-tv-ratings
Naturally, the folks at The S*n thought that this final series being "All Stars" meant that the show was going out with a bang (see Liz's original post). Do they still think that, I wonder...?0 -
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Phew, I was beginning to think I was the only person in the country watching!
Agree with whatsername the judge, she seems to have a fairly limited range of expressions, all of which she's overused already!
Sick also of Hayley's gurning, she's a young version of Bonnie.
But surely, SURELY Todd has to go tonight..... if he doesn't, Jason is liable to have a stroke 0 -
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Am I all on my lonesome again??
Anyway, FWIW, can't believe Jason gave Gareth lower marks (by a country mile) than Kyran, given that he's banging on and on and on about dance - Gareth barely did any skating he was so busy dancing (even if it was poorly!)
Seeing the Bonnie's pro bricking it at having to waltz was a moment!
But the teeny tiny bit of footwork they did at the beginning - the editors/producers/cameramen/whoever decided to show them from the waist up - WTF
Wonder which lift went so drastically wrong for Suzanne - she'd better be careful what she wishes for though, saying in her post-skate interview that she'd love the chance to do it again.....
Anyway, back to the show.....0 -
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So Bonnie and Gareth are the last two non-champions remaining - and still none of the former winners have been eliminated.
Now why does something tell me that this is the final eight the producers wanted...? :rolleyes:
And they're still not making a proper effort to send the show out on the highest note possible. They ought to have known that bringing in a former X Factor contestant to perform their latest single would not guarantee a big increase in the viewing figures (and this is said without any disrespect intended towards Rebecca Ferguson).
Bringing back the Duel twist (which we'll see next week) won't automatically result in the figures going up, either - especially when this twist isn't popular in the first place.
And may I say again that Ashley is only really there because she's a Pussycat Doll?
To the bookies' markets, and Ray's odds have naturally been shortened even further following his perfect 40 - Paddy Power, William Hill and Coral are all offering 4/9, and Ladbrokes 2/5.
Hayley is now joint second-favourite with Suzanne, at around 5/1, with another gap back to Beth at around 10/1.
And, of course, Bonnie's and Gareth's respective odds are still very long.0 -
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In fairness, Ray is head, shoulder and skates above everyone else to start with.
Unless he drops Maria on her head, or crashes into the judges' desk, I can't see how he won't win it.
Won't stop me watching the intervening rounds though 0 -
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HeidiHeidi wrote: »In fairness, Ray is head, shoulder and skates above everyone else to start with.
Unless he drops Maria on her head, or crashes into the judges' desk, I can't see how he won't win it.
Well, the producers and judges certainly seem to be doing everything they can to make sure he wins. Why else was Suzanne paired with him this week?
And if he did cock up big time, I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted him to win even more as a consequence... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Meanwhile, Christine turned 35 last night, and Pip duly wished her a happy birthday - to silence from the studio audience.
Most of the members must have felt, rightly, that Holly (who herself turns 33 next week) has to make an appearance at some point before the final curtain...
It looks like we will be seeing a former judge, though - the news is that Nicky Slater will fill in for Robin while he's in Sochi.0 -
So Nicky will indeed fill in for Robin this week and next, while Karen will take over as head judge (much to Jason's disappointment, apparently).
And don't forget, Gareth's the last remaining non-champion - and if he goes tonight, it will guarantee that the Ultimate Champion will be a former winner before any of the six are eliminated.
But of course, we all know which one the producers and judges want... 0 -
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Not like you to not post on this thread during or immediately after the most recent episode, Heidi... :eek:
For the record, it was billed as "80s Week" - although all the songs on it came from 1984, funnily enough. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
And to the surprise of absolutely nobody, Gareth was the one to go. The producers had made doubly sure of this by making him wear an awful blond wig... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
There wasn't the tiniest bit of surprise either when Ray once again received the highest score - although Nicky had the good sense not to give him a 10.
Next week will see all six former champions take part in the Team Challenge. No prizes for guessing how well Ray's team will do...
He's now 1/6 with all four of the bookmakers I've regularly mentioned - and I can only see those odds getting shorter still.
Hayley is around 6/1, and Suzanne around 8/1. And, naturally, the other three are now very much outsiders - Beth is around 20/1, Kyran around 40/1 and Sam, who has survived three skate-offs, as long as 100/1.0 -
I was so underwhelmed by it all, I forgot
Despite the obvious favouritism being shown to Ray, I still think he's head and shoulders above the others and would need to break a leg (or a judge) in order not to run away with the thing.
I thought they gave Suzanne an appalling song to dance to - how on earth she was meant to show off her skating skills with that routine was beyond me.
Sam - meh. But Vicky is my favourite pro, I just love watching her, so I hope he stays another while.
Can't actually remember the other routines, which shows how riveting they were!
I'll be away for this week's show, but "record" has been set and I'll be catching up with y'all next weekend 0 -
HeidiHeidi wrote: »I thought they gave Suzanne an appalling song to dance to - how on earth she was meant to show off her skating skills with that routine was beyond me.
Because the producers see Suzanne as Ray's strongest rival and thus want to limit her chances of winning... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
And you weren't the only person not to be impressed by these "80s" routines, Heidi - in fact, you're in extremely good company:Earlier, the second outing for the latest run of Top Gear pulled in 5.5 million viewers between 8pm and 9pm on BBC2, up on the 5.3 million who saw last week's series opener.
The Jeremy Clarkson show once again beat ITV's Dancing on Ice Skate Off, watched by 4.1 million viewers (14.6%) between 8.30pm and 9pm, following the main Dancing on Ice show which drew 5.4 million (22.8%) between 6.15pm and 7.45pm.
BBC1's Call The Midwife predictably won the slot with 8.9 million (32.3%).
It's far from the first time that many viewers have found Clarky, Hamster and May, and a group of midwives and nuns in London's East End in the '50s, considerably more entertaining - but it seems that the gap was widened further as a result of these uninspired routines and naff costumes.
And, of course, Gareth's elimination being no less predictable than the Earth revolving around the sun.
I'll post some official figures from BARB in a few weeks' time.0 -
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Go Harvey Go wrote: »And to the surprise of absolutely nobody, Gareth was the one to go. The producers had made doubly sure of this by making him wear an awful blond wig... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
There wasn't the tiniest bit of surprise either when Ray once again received the highest score - although Nicky had the good sense not to give him a 10.
Next week will see all six former champions take part in the Team Challenge. No prizes for guessing how well Ray's team will do...
I've never watched this show religiously and only catch the odd clip here and there, but you seem to be really convinced of some kind of interference from production going on.
Anyone I know who watches it said Gareth was by far the worst and deserved to go, and that Ray is without doubt the best skater overall. So could it not just be that Gareth left because he was the worst and Ray got the highest scores because he's the best?0 -
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I definitely disagree with the point about Sam. She clearly did win purely because she was the best singer, albeit in a year when the talent was particularly poor overall. The songs she was given were week upon week crap and predictable. If anything the songs would have hindered her chances instead of helping her, and most weeks the other contestants were singing much better songs than her, but it was her voice that trumped all the other performances.
I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree here, then.I'm sure the wig wasn't Gareth's idea, but I really don't think the wig had any influence whatsoever on the judges scores or the public votes. I don't think the wardrobe department thought "let's put Gareth in a stupid wig so people don't vote for them". Wasn't it an 80s theme or something? The pictures I've seen look as if everyone was wearing ridiculous wigs. I highly doubt that if Gareth and Ray swapped outfits that it would have effected Saturday night's scores in any way. Especially as Ray was wearing a string vest, mullet and leather pants!
As I said, it was billed as "80s Week", although all the songs came from 1984 (Bolero year, of course).
And IMO, Gareth's wig just happened to be that bit more ridiculous than any of the others.Ray hasn't been getting 40 every week has he?? But yes, if he is the best skater (and from what I'm told he is without question) then he should be getting the highest score.
He got 40 the week before, and would have got 40 again here but for Nicky.
And it all feels, to me anyway, just a tad bit exaggerated.
And if he messes up spectacularly (no matter how unlikely this is), does he deserve the highest score then?0 -
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So has any lingering interest in this series evaporated now?
If indeed it has, then I can't say I'm surprised after last week's result...
I'm sorry, guys, but I simply can't help playing the role of the grumpy old conspiracy theorist again. So if you don't want to read the next few paragraphs, scroll down to the end of this post now...
First of all, not only did the producers show a lack of imagination (again) in making the Team Challenge boys versus girls, but in doing so they put Ray on a separate team to his strongest opponents. :rolleyes:
And - surprise, surprise - the judges unanimously decided that the Uptown Girl routine he led was better than the girls' Egyptian routine. This despite the general view on other forums and Twitter being the opposite...
So his score from earlier was doubled. And what was that score? 40. :rolleyes:
It's hard not to feel that this all played a part in Suzanne ending up in the skate-off. And it's even harder not to feel that the judges decided her fate based almost solely on her performance in this skate-off, with very little regard for her previous performances.
That is, they decided her fate based almost solely on the fact that she made mistakes while Kyran, who had already survived one skate-off and who was generally regarded as being not as good as her, did not...
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
...OK, I've stopped now.
So what has Suzanne's elimination done to Ray's odds? Well, let's take a look at the usual bookies' markets:
Ladbrokes: Ray 1/10, Hayley 8/1, Beth 16/1, Kyran 33/1, Sam 40/1
Paddy Power: Ray 1/10, Hayley 7/1, Beth 12/1, Kyran 50/1, Sam 80/1
William Hill: Ray 1/10, Hayley 6/1, Beth 16/1, Kyran 40/1, Sam 50/1
Coral: Ray 1/12, Hayley 7/1, Beth 18/1, Kyran 40/1, Sam 50/1
Yep, it's sent those odds plunging to the extent that if you put €1 on him, you'll make a profit of no more than 10c.
And that profit might well be even less after tonight, when the celebs will each perform a solo routine without any help from their partners...0 -
Got back yesterday, I watched back last week's last night - but stupid recorder didn't record the results show :mad:
I too thought that the girls' routine was better, was very surprised at a clean sweep for the boys.
Wish I could see the skate-off routines - but if Suzanne fluffed it and Kyran didn't, then we can't really argue with that - it's made very clear that it's a decision made on the skate-off alone, not previous performance(s). Wasn't there an episode early on where someone got away with mistakes in the skate-off and there were howls of indignation about that? But I do agree that Suzanne was much the better skater.
I'm happy now that Ray has it won, but will keep watching to see what the others do, it's a race for second (if they even announce second, which I suspect they don't - they might have to consider that this time!). I may be alone 0 -
HeidiHeidi wrote: »Wish I could see the skate-off routines - but if Suzanne fluffed it and Kyran didn't, then we can't really argue with that - it's made very clear that it's a decision made on the skate-off alone, not previous performance(s). Wasn't there an episode early on where someone got away with mistakes in the skate-off and there were howls of indignation about that?
Well, there were howls of indignation here too... 0 -
Go Harvey Go wrote: »Well, there were howls of indignation here too...
Tonight's show is all over the shop, they just showed all of Beth's solo preparation and then she comes out and does her pairs skate....
Poor girl though, she looks really sick, it's as much as I can do to get myself up when I feel like that, never mind a punishing routine (or two) before the nation and judges.
Think Hayley looked liked she was brought down to earth with a bump being minus Dan.
Kyran's song is one of my favourites of all time - I was strangely underwhelmed by it all.
Jaysus, Diplomatic Corps for Jason (not!) :eek:0 -
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Ray is so beautiful to watch. Yes it's obvious he'll win but if he can be that good, then it's worth watching.
Although I can't see him as any sort of sex symbol. Hes so young looking!
Yeah, I really don't get all the swooning - he's hardly a heartthrob. Well he doesn't do it for me anyway 0 -
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