Edward Snowden applies for asylum in Ireland

Dannyboy83

jmayo wrote: »

Before we all start beating ourselves and our government up about being spineless, can anyone point to a western government and/or EU one that is willing to offer him asylum or even safe passage ?

As laoch na mona very appropriately said above, it looks like some Latin American states are now the few that stands up to the US administration.

You're right.

Oddly the European states are standing up to the US in terms of kicking up a fuss about being spied on,
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/europe-demands-answers-on-claims-of-us-spying-1.1448346

but not standing up for the whistleblower who is the reason they know they've been spied on.

I wouldn't have been satisfied until I got a dig in about that blasphemy law tho

zom

jmayo wrote: »

Before we all start beating ourselves and our government up about being spineless, can anyone point to a western government and/or EU one that is willing to offer him asylum or even save passage ?

It's not giving absolution to anyone if everyone else doing wrong. Judge itself, not the others.

michael999999

Lets swap him for David drumm!

clairefontaine

Snowden is a patriot. Unfortunately hopey changey sees him as a traitor. Euriope are a bunch of obamabots who fell for hopey changey. Snowden will remain stateless. Ireland will never ever offer him a space for his banishment.

meglome

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0708/461286-edward-snowden/

Judge refuses to grant provisional extradition warrant for Edward Snowden

Mr Justice Colm Mac Eochaidh refused the application this weekend, saying the grounds were too general.

In his judgment he wrote that: "an extradition request is required to state as accurately as possible the time and place of commission of the alleged offence or offences".

He went on to write that: "My conclusion in this matter is that the request made on 5th July 2013 by the United States of America through its Embassy in Dublin fails to indicate the place where any of the offences took place.

"Therefore, I am compelled to refuse the application by the United States of America for a provisional Arrest Warrant in respect of Mr Edward J Snowden."

carpejugulum

meglome wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0708/461286-edward-snowden/

What does that mean in practice?

renegademaster

carpejugulum wrote: »

What does that mean in practice?

SFA

http://www.shannonwatch.org/cables

Wikileaks Cables
The following is a list of Wikileaks cables from the US embassy in Dublin which relate to the CIA and US military use of Shannon.

Click on cable title for a summary and link to the full text. If you want to list all the cables relating to a particular tag, click on the tag.

Title Subject Cable Date Tags
09DUBLIN417 YOUR OCTOBER 11 VISIT TO IRELAND 4 Oct 2009 Irish politicians, rendition, searching planes
09DUBLIN45 IRISH GOVERNMENT'S ATTITUDE TOWARDS FOREIGN INVESTMENT 30 Jan 2009 lawful excuse, Mary Kelly, Pitstop Ploughshares
08DUBLIN662 SCENESETTER FOR VISIT OF CODEL DODD TO IRELAND 7 Dec 2008 rendition, Shannon
08DUBLIN616 SCENESETTER FOR VISIT OF DEPUTY SECRETARY NEGROPONTE TO IRELAND 12 Nov 2008 rendition, Shannon
08DUBLIN609 SCENESETTER FOR VISIT OF CODEL LEAHY TO IRELAND 6 Nov 2008 rendition, Shannon
08DUBLIN603 IRISH ESTABLISH CABINET COMMITTEE TO REVIEW RENDITIONS ALLEGATIONS AND OTHER HUMAN RIGHTS CONCERNS 4 Nov 2008 rendition
08DUBLIN602 IRISH ESTABLISH CABINET COMMITTEE TO REVIEW RENDITIONS ALLEGATIONS AND OTHER HUMAN RIGHTS CONCERNS 3 Nov 2008 rendition, searching planes
08DUBLIN567 IRISH POLITICAL DIRECTOR ON REVIEW OF U.S.-IRISH RELATIONS, AFGHANISTAN, IRAN AND RENDITIONS 15 Oct 2008 rendition
08DUBLIN306 FOREIGN AFFAIRS TOUR D'HORIZON WITH IRISH MINISTER OF DEFENSE 28 May 2008 Shannon
08DUBLIN289 SCENESETTER FOR VISIT OF CODEL LEAHY TO IRELAND 21 May 2008 public opinion, rendition
08DUBLIN248 BRIAN COWEN POISED TO BECOME PRIME MINISTER OF IRELAND 7 May 2008 Shannon
08DUBLIN192 SCENESETTER FOR IRISH PRIME MINISTER'S ADDRESS TO CONGRESS 11 Apr 2008 Irish politicians, public opinion, rendition
08DUBLIN166 IRISH PRIME MINISTER AHERN TO RESIGN MAY 6; NO CHANGE ANTICIPATED IN U.S.-IRISH BILATERAL RELATIONS 2 Apr 2008 Shannon
07DUBLIN916 TOUR D'HORIZON WITH IRISH FOREIGN MINISTER 20 Dec 2007 public opinion, rendition, searching planes, Shannon
07DUBLIN899 PRIME MINISTER DISMISSES IHRC CALL FOR INSPECTION OF U.S. AIRCRAFT 13 Dec 2007 public opinion, rendition, searching planes
07DUBLIN888 SECRETARY CHERTOFF'S TRIP TO IRELAND 10 Dec 2007 public opinion, rendition, searching planes, Shannon
07DUBLIN748 SCENESETTER FOR FOREIGN MINISTER DERMOT AHERN'S MEETING WITH THE SECRETARY ON OCTOBER 3 27 Sep 2007 Shannon
07DUBLIN286 SCENE-SETTER FOR THE APRIL 19-20 VISIT OF EUR PDAS KURT VOLKER 13 Apr 2007 Shannon
07DUBLIN191 SCENE-SETTER FOR PRIME MINISTER BERTIE AHERN'S ST. PATRICK'S DAY VISIT 8 Mar 2007 rendition
07DUBLIN898 IRISH GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO REPORT ON "EXTRAORDINARY RENDITIONS" 12 Feb 2007 rendition
06DUBLIN1284 THE AMBASSADOR AND FOREIGN MINISTER DISCUSS SHANNON, NORTHERN IRELAND 3 Nov 2006 lawful excuse, munitions, Pitstop Ploughshares, public opinion, rendition, Shannon
06DUBLIN1078 GOI OPEN TO INFORMATION EXCHANGE ON SHANNON MILAIR TRANSITS 15 Sep 2006 Israel, munitions, public opinion, Shannon
06DUBLIN1020 EMERGING CONSTRAINTS ON U.S. MILITARY TRANSITS AT SHANNON 5 Sep 2006 Irish media, Israel, munitions, Pitstop Ploughshares, public opinion, rendition, Shannon
06DUBLIN891 SHANNON FIVE FOUND NOT GUILTY 29 Jul 2006 Irish media, Irish politicians, lawful excuse, Pitstop Ploughshares
06DUBLIN795 JUNE 11 SHANNON AIRPORT INCIDENT REPORT DELIVERED 6 Jul 2006 Shannon
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michael999999

michael999999 wrote: »

Lets swap him for David drumm!

A criminal for an integrity rich patriot?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn;t he have to be on irish soil (even an embassy) before he can apply for assylum?

Amirani

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn;t he have to be on irish soil (even an embassy) before he can apply for assylum?

Yes, that was what was said to him.