Terminator Genisys

py2006

Deleted User wrote: »

Confession: I watched Salvation again recently and actually enjoyed it. I've never really understood why people didn't like it?

Don't forget your coat when you leave the internet...

SirLemonhead

Deleted User wrote: »

Confession: I watched Salvation again recently and actually enjoyed it. I've never really understood why people didn't like it?

It falls apart at the end but it's an enjoyable film...

the_monkey

At least Salvation used a new point of view rather then trying a cheap imitation of the 1st 2 like T3.

as for the latest ... a total mess

SirLemonhead

SirLemonhead wrote: »

It falls apart at the end but it's an enjoyable film...

Thank you! I mean after Rise of the Machines it was a good watch. Great set pieces, decent acting, pretty OK story, so I never really understood why people kept slating it. Yes, it fell apart at the end.

Thargor

It was slated because it was a fooking stupid insult to the first 2 films with giant robots with motorbikes in their legs. Good acting? Seriously? Also Kyle Reese and his cutesy little kid sidekick, pathetic.

And Genisys and Rise of the Machines aren't huge slaps to the already rotting corpse of the Terminator franchise? I get what you're saying, but I don't personally believe that Salvation is anywhere near as as the previous two ones I've mentioned.

Also you can't really use Cinema Sins to back up your argument; they are known to nitpick absolutely everything and award "sins" for when a scene doesn't contain a lapdance. I mean, I like their videos, but it does get tedious.

Thargor

Deleted User wrote: »

And Genisys and Rise of the Machines aren't huge slaps to the already rotting corpse of the Terminator franchise? I get what you're saying, but I don't personally believe that Salvation is anywhere near as as the previous two ones I've mentioned.

Yes they are equally sh1t in their own ways, did you think I was defending them or something?

That Cinema Sins video is an excellent summary of why Salvation is so bad, I dont care what CS do in other videos.

ps3lover

They should have stuck with the R rated script for Salvation, it was a lot better than the final product.

TerrorFirmer

Deleted User wrote: »

And Genisys and Rise of the Machines aren't huge slaps to the already rotting corpse of the Terminator franchise? I get what you're saying, but I don't personally believe that Salvation is anywhere near as as the previous two ones I've mentioned.

Also you can't really use Cinema Sins to back up your argument; they are known to nitpick absolutely everything and award "sins" for when a scene doesn't contain a lapdance. I mean, I like their videos, but it does get tedious.

To be fair Terminator 3 is a different league compared to Salvation. It's perfectly fine to like Salvation as a film either, personally I consider it easily the worst Terminator movie but in itself it's certainly watchable. However even critics who very much disliked Genisys considered it superior to Salvation; 'It's better than Salvation but that's not saying much' has appeared, give or take, in countless reviews. I would say you're in the minority to consider Salvation better than T3 or Genisys. T3 in particular has a fantastic and surprisingly bleak ending that really took me by surprise - in a sense it was a shame that a T4 didn't build from that.

It just seems that T3's only saving grace is its ending, but, tbh, I personally don't think it makes up for everything that came before it. Let's never forget it had Arnie say, "Talk to the hand" :pac:

But then again, debating Genysis, Salvation, or T3 is like asking, which is worse - genital herpes or arse warts?

Mickeroo

T3 is miles ahead of Salvation and is pretty underrated imo, it was a decent blockbuster with some good set pieces and got mainly good reviews when it came out too. It was too similar to what came before was the main issue I had with it, story wise it was just a rehash of T2 with a more bleak ending.

Kimbot

Deleted User wrote: »

It just seems that T3's only saving grace is its ending, but, tbh, I personally don't think it makes up for everything that came before it. Let's never forget it had Arnie say, "Talk to the hand" :pac:

But then again, debating Genysis, Salvation, or T3 is like asking, which is worse - genital herpes or arse warts?

What about Genital Warts or Arse Herpes? :P

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

T3 is miles ahead of Salvation and is pretty underrated imo, it was a decent blockbuster with some good set pieces and got mainly good reviews when it came out too. It was too similar to what came before was the main issue I had with it, story wise it was just a rehash of T2 with a more bleak ending.

Main issue I had with it was;

1) Claire Danes Screaming is annoying as ****
2) John Connor was badly cast

I agree with everything else. Was a good movie with some great action, and Arnie is the man

Bacchus

Thargor wrote: »

It was slated because it was a fooking stupid insult to the first 2 films with giant robots with motorbikes in their legs. Good acting? Seriously? Also Kyle Reese and his cutesy little kid sidekick, pathetic.

Had a look at that there. It's entertaining but it's soooo picky. Most the "sins" are just vaguely funny jokes they're trying to make and are not actually anything wrong with the movie.

AMKC

So finally got to see Terminator Genisis today and have to say it is a much better film than the last film which was just dreadful and dull. I think there is some plot holes in it but it was also funny in parts too. I do agree that the actress that plays Sarah O Conner is just too young looking and it should have been a different actress. As for T3 its a much better film than T4.

Wedwood

Haven't seen it yet but will this weekend to see Arnie doing probably his last Terminator movie. Not expecting too much, hopefully some good Arnie one-liners and some cool stunts.

I think people over analyse movies these days, movies like Terminator are not supposed to be taken too seriously.

Anyway, most franchises that are onto their fifth movie are well into the law of diminishing returns, so why the shock when it's not as good as the first one or two?

As Arnie says "I'll be back" when I've seen the movie !

PBWXFORD

Ive seen it and yes it is a good movie and worth going to see, but i would still prefer T1 or T2. Its a different type of movie to these 2 in that i think it is lighter and not as serious but that is mostly because of its 12A rating whereas the first and second were 15 and 18. This was the same with T3 being a 12A also. I would put it as the first 2 being adult movies and the latter being more family friendly fit for younger viewers but for me personally this kind of spoils it a bit.

readyletsgo

Just saw it, LOVED IT!

Don't know what you guys are moaning about. Was a great mix of T1, T2 and T3 with good story line, not great, but good!

Brian?

I'm shocked to say I quite enjoyed this film. It could have done with less corny jokes. But all around a decent film.

Miles better than Salvation and possibly better that T3.

doc_17

The "pops" thing was just so fu****g stupid. A poor film, Jai Courtney wasn't great and neither was Sarah Connor. I wouldn't think the sequels will go ahead.

Chris_Heilong

T3 is aweful but Genisys worked out as an entertaining flick.

bullvine

Should put a poll on this thread to see who enjoyed it.

jones

Saw this last night and after hearing so much negativity my expectations were very low. I have to say i enjoyed it, typical popcorn flick and leave your brain at the door kind of thing but it was entertaining. Arnie was the star of the show IMO but the terminator series is definitely a state of diminishing returns at this stage. I'd give it 6.5/7 out of ten but doubt i'd be in a rush to watch it again. The start in 1984 was probably the best part of the film for me

pah

jones wrote: »

typical popcorn flick and leave your brain at the door kind of thing

I hate that description regardless of the movie.

I need my brain to be engaged on some level. It speaks volumes about the movie that people would say it's a good movie if you turn your brain off. Almost like they're embarrassed to say they liked it without this conditional statement.

If you liked the movie your brain was needed to come to that decision, same if you didn't like it.

I didn't.

jones

pah wrote: »

I hate that description regardless of the movie.

I need my brain to be engaged on some level. It speaks volumes about the movie that people would say it's a good movie if you turn your brain off. Almost like they're embarrassed to say they liked it without this conditional statement.

If you liked the movie your brain was needed to come to that decision, same if you didn't like it.

I didn't.

It's a term i use to describe something that doesn't require a lot of thought...like lets say transformers and the like. You go in for the spectacle not the thought provoking questions the film may pose.
Definitely not embarrassed to say i liked it????

ps3lover

i wonder how many attempts at starting a new trilogy we're going to get with with franchise. Salvation failed, now this has failed.

ps3lover

ps3lover wrote: »

i wonder how many attempts at starting a new trilogy we're going to get with with franchise. Salvation failed, now this has failed.

Wasn't this a box office success though?

ps3lover

Deleted User wrote: »

Wasn't this a box office success though?

It's still a bit too early to tell but it's a disaster domestically, it's doing ok internationally but it's trailing Salvations numbers.

Goodshape

Surprisingly enjoyed this. Easily better over all than the last two, and I thought Salvation actually had it's moments (wouldn't piss on three to put out a fire though).

The pacing seemed a bit slow in places but nothing else was as bad as I'd feared. I guess my low expectations might have helped.

Mechanical Clocktail

jones wrote: »

It's a term i use to describe something that doesn't require a lot of thought...like lets say transformers and the like. You go in for the spectacle not the thought provoking questions the film may pose.
Definitely not embarrassed to say i liked it????

A film can require more or less thought and it can also be more or less good. The two shouldn't be conflated but they often are. This film has terrible acting and a terrible script. It's trash and totally forgetable. Mad Max was one big car chase and it was smarter and twenty times better. Best film of the year even. The Terminator franchise really coud be great but this film with Arnie included is a disaster so I think that's the end of it. I hope so anyway. Sure why can't we get a new killer robot movie altogether. That'd be best.