Terminator Genisys

Faith+1

http://www.ifi.ie/film/the-terminator/

At least we having this classic starting next week in the IFI.

Goodshape

Goodshape wrote: »

Yeanope, It's set befofter the firsecond movie.

Time-travel, yo!


(more seriously: it seems to be mostly set during the first movie. Clarke is playing a T1-aged Sarah Conner).

Oh. OK. But.. Wouldn't T1 Conner not be quite young at that stage? My memory is vague, but isn't there a good few years in between T1 and T2..?

All of this reminds me that I need to rewatch T1 and T2.

briany

I'm sure I'll watch this at some stage, but every non-Cameron release since T-2 has left a bad taste, basically. TSCC, for example, while entertaining for what it was, just totally ripped up canon. It went from one terminator to two, then to three, and then it was like they had Terminators working regular jobs, waiting to foil Conner. It got ridiculous. Every post-T2 has been such a money milking exercise. I realise I'm not saying anything particularly insightful there, but, really, the way the bend over backwards to continue the story really spits in the face of good storytelling. A good story should have a definitive end (T2) AND be left at that end.

Adamantium

briany wrote: »

I'm sure I'll watch this at some stage, but every non-Cameron release since T-2 has left a bad taste, basically. TSCC, for example, while entertaining for what it was, just totally ripped up canon. It went from one terminator to two, then to three, and then it was like they had Terminators working regular jobs, waiting to foil Conner. It got ridiculous. Every post-T2 has been such a money milking exercise. I realise I'm not saying anything particularly insightful there, but, really, the way the bend over backwards to continue the story really spits in the face of good storytelling. A good story should have a definitive end (T2) AND be left at that end.

You're completely right
Certain stories are simply finite.
Humans either destroy Skynet in the future after years of misery or prevent it from ever happening in the past and they are the only two reasonable ways to wrap things up in this franchise and they've both been done (well the future we know about but we don't see how it gets there)
This isn't Star Trek where the entire universe is the limits of the story could possibly go.

The Battlestar Galactica reimagining/reboot (2003-2009) had a such definitive full stop ending, that made me think it'll never bettered by another piece of work in that series/saga.

py2006

This is the 2nd time for Arnie on Norton, he comes across awkward and like he doesn't have a clue whats going on.

the_monkey

Looking at the trailers everyone is miscast for this , Sara Connor is too young , not battle hardened .. Reese is too Muscular and just seems a mutton head in the few lines I've heard, and John Connor - just awful.

Ironically it's Arnie that looks the best and when I heard he at almost 70 would be playing another Terminator - I cringed.

Bacchus

the_monkey wrote: »

Looking at the trailers everyone is miscast for this , Sara Connor is too young , not battle hardened .. Reese is too Muscular and just seems a mutton head in the few lines I've heard, and John Connor - just awful.

Ironically it's Arnie that looks the best and when I heard he at almost 70 would be playing another Terminator - I cringed.

I agree with you on Reese - he is way too muscular, nothing at all like Beihn in the original. The guy playing John Connor looks way miscast too. However, Clark is (on paper) a decent choice for Sarah. She's supposed to be young and not battlehardened at this point in time. I guess with the new screwy timeline perhaps she should look a bit more bad ass but we're still talking about T1 Sarah Connor when she was a 19 year old waitress, not T2 Sarah Connor when she was after a decade of training & preparing for war haunted by the nightmare of T1 and Judgement Day.

FortuneChip

Looper007 wrote: »

I agree with Simon she looks a little too young to play a battle harden Sarah Connors but lets be honest the studio ain't making it for Die Hard Terminator fans..

I want this.

Looper007

FortuneChip wrote: »

I want this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB7lB_URDsc

you had it already :pac: add in Rocky and Chuck and the classic one liners.

py2006

Just heard a rumour that Arnie is in Dublin...

the_monkey

the_monkey

JP Liz V1

Apparently Emilia Clarke and Jai Courtney are dating

Faith+1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Apparently Emilia Clarke and Jai Courtney are dating

Lucky b*stard

the_monkey

imdb rating isn't up yet and film is out on Thursday - bad sign .. like they want to hide it as long as possible ..

MrWalsh

the_monkey wrote: »

imdb rating isn't up yet and film is out on Thursday - bad sign .. like they want to hide it as long as possible ..

IMDb is only user ratings, how would people see it before it is out?

the_monkey

MrWalsh wrote: »

IMDb is only user ratings, how would people see it before it is out?

There are pro accounts and for sure the film will have ratings on imdb,
most are released few days before films release.

MrWalsh

the_monkey wrote: »

There are pro accounts and for sure the film will have ratings on imdb,
most are released few days before films release.

So perhaps it hasnt been released for previews? I dont imagine there is a conspiracy among all pro account users of IMDB and the critics on rotten tomatoes to "hide" the ratings? Bit tin foil hat no?

the_monkey

Sorry, ignore my nonsense ...


http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?votestopfaq&ref_=tt_ov_rt

Wow.

Rottentomatoes could so have easily put me off watching this-

The Movie info:
James Cameron's sci-fi classic gets rebooted in this Paramount production designed as the first installment in a new trilogy. ~ Jason Buchanan, Rovi

PG-13 (for intense sequences of sc-fi violence and gunplay throughout, partial nudity and brief strong language)

It looks like my predictions about the Terminator movies are coming true -
Terminator 1: 18s
Terminator 2: 15s
Terminator 3: 12s
Terminator 4: 12A (but sounding like a PG)
Terminator 5: G?

MrWalsh

the_monkey wrote: »

Sorry, ignore my nonsense ...


http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?votestopfaq&ref_=tt_ov_rt

Not at all, Im sure on Thursday it will turn out to get terrible reviews anyway!!

Bacchus

MrWalsh wrote: »

So perhaps it hasnt been released for previews? I dont imagine there is a conspiracy among all pro account users of IMDB and the critics on rotten tomatoes to "hide" the ratings? Bit tin foil hat no?

No conspiracy among reviewers but no previews indicates the studio is trying to protect it from bad reviews before it even opens in cinemas. That's usually not a good sign (as if we needed further confirmation that this was going to blow).

MrWalsh

Bacchus wrote: »

No conspiracy among reviewers but no previews indicates the studio is trying to protect it from bad reviews before it even opens in cinemas. That's usually not a good sign (as if we needed further confirmation that this was going to blow).

Yes I dont disagree, I was just a bit confused at the notion of a conspiracy of reviewers!

I still live in hope at the vision of Arnold fighting Arnold.

MrWalsh

MrWalsh wrote: »

Yes I dont disagree, I was just a bit confused at the notion of a conspiracy of reviewers!

I still live in hope at the vision of Arnold fighting Arnold.

But only if it is old Arnold fighting weirdly-CGId-to-make-him-look-younger naked Arnold from Terminator Salvation.

MrWalsh

Deleted User wrote: »

But only if it is old Arnold fighting weirdly-CGId-to-make-him-look-younger naked Arnold from Terminator Salvation.

I will hold judgement on Arnold fighting Arnold until I see Arnold fighting Arnold.

As suggested by a user on Reddit, I think there is a movie opportunity there for all Arnold characters to fight all other Arnold characters, facilitated by Terminator universe time travel, so we could have a Douglas Quaid Vs John Kimble, followed by John Matrix Vs Conan etc... I guess we could make some kind of league and eventually in the closing scene have the winning Arnold looking at the camera with a cigar in his mouth saying "Ill be back".

Which Arnold would win??

MrWalsh

MrWalsh wrote: »

Which Arnold would win??

Arnold, of course.

Dair76

the_monkey

Deleted User wrote: »

Arnold, of course.

Ahh nold

Chain Smoker

Saw Schwarzenegger on Graham Norton there last night, he's starting to look a little bit like former BDO darts player Bobby George (aka that guy who managed to break his back playing a game of darts)

MrWalsh

Chain Smoker wrote: »

Saw Schwarzenegger on Graham Norton there last night, he's starting to look a little bit like former BDO darts player Bobby George (aka that guy who managed to break his back playing a game of darts)

Looked up Bobby George there - I see what you mean!