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deershooting article evening herald

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭sniperman


    rowa wrote: »
    As the title says, an article about the culling of the deer in the phoenix park in Dublin (city ?) it earns the park about 4k a year as the venison is sold off. Of course the anti's have something to say about it. Brace yourselves for a joe fluffy radio spot on this I reckon.


    http://www.herald.ie/news/from-the-phoenix-park-to-your-dinner-plate-how-these-deer-turn-into-a-tasty-4k-earner-29371642.html
    very interesting,and cass has a beuatiful rifle in the for sale section that would do the job nicely;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Of course Mr Carmody has something to say about it, although he's coming a bit late since the deer are there since the 17th century. Of course we all agree with him that overgrazing, overpopulation and being knocked to bits by a car to go and die in some dense cover hours later is far preferable over an instantaneous bullet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭One shot on kill


    Did I read it right in thinking there is 500 in the herd at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    30 deer were shot, they say that was worth 4000euro.. thats 133euro an animal.. Id assume it was prickets and does that were shot and the odd old fella that was passed his prime.. you could say the average weight of a pricket or doe minus the head and innards would be 25-32kgs for fallow thats 4-5euro ish a KG... double the going rate..

    Someone made a tidy penny if that price is right.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    The day such an article does not get a response from these people (no way am i calling them "activists", me bollox to that) is the day i'll be worried.

    Zoologists, rangers, etc are wrong, but these "people" are right? :eek: The best thing to do here is let them off. They make a fool enough of themselves without us needing to highlight it.

    As for the cull. It's a necessity. Until the day the government pays to relocate me, and everyone else, and return the island to the animals it's needed. And if they want me and the RPA i'll gladly help out. :D As long as i get a few deer out of it myself.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭4200fps


    garv123 wrote: »
    30 deer were shot, they say that was worth 4000euro.. thats 133euro an animal.. Id assume it was prickets and does that were shot and the odd old fella that was passed his prime.. you could say the average weight of a pricket or doe minus the head and innards would be 25-32kgs for fallow thats 4-5euro ish a KG... double the going rate..

    Someone made a tidy penny if that price is right.
    The most I hear given for deer is 2.80euro a kg, the game dealer makes his profits from there where it would fetch 4.50 a Kg in what ever supermarket its sold in. Seen it priced in Lidil at 4.50 a kg or there abouts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭sikahuntejack


    when i was working in a hotel in wicklow back in 1999 we bought venison off wild irish game and i was told it was from the herd in the phenix park i have to say it was lovely to cook with and tasted out of this world i put it down to the deer haveing a easy life no poachers after them and no shortage of food


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭One shot on kill


    A guy told me before that when the a deer is shot in a peacefull state they taste lovely but if they get a bit spooked and there adrenaline starts flowing this is when they get a gamey taste.
    I don't know what do ye think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭4200fps


    A guy told me before that when the a deer is shot in a peacefull state they taste lovely but if they get a bit spooked and there adrenaline starts flowing this is when they get a gamey taste.
    I don't know what do ye think.
    Its a fact. Body shot deer can taste alot wilder than head shot deer. Its a known fact. When a deer runs with a hole in it and the shooter is gone looking for it, during this period adrenaline starts along with oxygen deprivation which is a severe deficiency supply of oxygen which results in its body producing alot of lactic acid which effects the taste. I'm a head and upper neck shooter. The best of meat I have with no energy or time lost searching the bushes for a runner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭One shot on kill


    Ye no one likes runners. So its after the shot the adrenaline starts flowing I suppose if they see you before the shot there gone anyway.

    Head and neck shots do you still wait for them to turn broad side. The same guy also told me he sometimes hits they in the butt of the neck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭SeeZee


    It wouldn't be like the hearld to exaggerate. I understood that the population is kept at 250 deer in the pheonix park. €€€ prob exaggerated also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭PL05


    i have no problem with neck shots if a chap is skilled enough with his tools, but you should never take a shot at a deers head. a bullet could very well deflect on the skull and cause serious damage, not a nice sight, or worse hit the jaw and you could lose an animal that will die slowly and in agony, which can last for a long time. i once had the unpleasent task of putting a deer out of its misery with its lower jaw shattered and it was starved because it could,nt feed, poor thing must have been going around for weeks like this. no decent hunter wants to see an animal in that state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    I spoke to one of the workers in the zoo and they said they regularly cull the deers as they have no competition. They would over graze and cause to many issues otherwise. She also said the day before we were there, a bus full of primary school children took a deer out of it.

    Also the deer are very noisy around the hospital in the park


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭yubabill1


    What a reasonable and balanced article. That's why people actually buy the herald, rather than the virtual rag, the journal.ie, which is produced free by "professionals" for facebook "experts".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    PL05 wrote: »
    i have no problem with neck shots if a chap is skilled enough with his tools, but you should never take a shot at a deers head. a bullet could very well deflect on the skull and cause serious damage, not a nice sight, or worse hit the jaw and you could lose an animal that will die slowly and in agony, which can last for a long time. i once had the unpleasent task of putting a deer out of its misery with its lower jaw shattered and it was starved because it could,nt feed, poor thing must have been going around for weeks like this. no decent hunter wants to see an animal in that state.


    Here we go again... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Time to put on some popcorn.


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