Would you break religious articles?

Jacques Mesrine

I was looking through Facebook a minute ago and I saw a group of lads I use to school with posing with a statue of the Virgin Mary. The statue had a can of Bulmers beside and some of the guys thought it was hilarious while others had stern 'I disagree looks.' All and all they thought they were rebels.

What is your opinion of religious articles? Would you have a problem breaking them? I've broken some in the past to prove my contempt for the Catholic Church.

endacl

No I wouldn't. It's infantile.

Nervous Wreck

Breaking anything to prove a point is pretty stupid, imo.

Zombrex

I don't think someone is special just because it is religious, but I wouldn't break any status that weren't mine. That is just stupid, but by the sounds of it it was boys trying to be rebels. How juvenile

Jacques Mesrine

I've moved into a fair few houses before and found religious articles in them. Pope John Paul II memorabilia seems to be a big thing in this country. The first thing I do when I find that stuff is fire it straight into the bin or break it if its breakable.

Reminds me of impoverished Ireland when people had to immigrate while these boys were living it up in the Vatican.

I love hearing superstitious Irish people saying things like 'mocking is catching' and that king of lark when I'm doing it

endacl

Good man. Fight the good fight.

Jimoslimos

You mean like these guys,
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/mar/03/afghanistan.lukeharding

As for the tat why bother? It doesn't "prove" anything and given that you were highly unlikely to have bought it, all you're doing is putting the cost of replacement onto the religious lay folk (usually old) and not the CC.

Turtwig

Damaging somebody else's stuff is an absolute no no.

Bannasidhe

I have repaired 'religious' statues because they had sentimental value to their owners. Like the large Jebus that used to on the landing when I was a kid - we all used him as a hat stand and he had 6 fingers on one hand from the time my grandfather tried a few home repairs after Jebus got in the way of my grandmother having a hissy fit.
My grandfather died before I was born and my grandmother asked me to fix Jebus up many years later- I did leave him his 6 fingers.

I don't see them as 'religious' - I just see them as visual representations of something I don't happen to believe in. I feel the same way about images of the Buddha, Kali, Thor, Man Utd etc.

To deliberately break something that doesn't belong to you is, imho, criminal damage - no matter what it is.

18AD

Would totally wreck one. If it was mine.

Jacques Mesrine

Come novena in my area the church pass around a statue of the virgin mary similar to what is done with the Heineken Cup;, some sort of marketing exercise. I'd say this is the statue the boys in the photograph had.

magicbastarder

i wouldn't break a statue simply for ****s'n'giggles, but i would like the idea of clay jesus shooting.

Turtwig

magicbastarder wrote: »

i wouldn't break a statue simply for ****s'n'giggles, but i would like the idea of clay jesus shooting.

I Lol'd.

Bannasidhe

magicbastarder wrote: »

i wouldn't break a statue simply for ****s'n'giggles, but i would like the idea of clay jesus shooting.

There is no emoticon which expresses how much I like that idea.

Standman

I would break any article, religious or not. Down with articles!

Sarky

Vandalism is silly.

Printing a raptor head to you can stick it on to a "sacred heart" picture you already own to make a cheap, effective Raptorjesus is, however, Great Art.

Bannasidhe

Sarky wrote: »

Printing a raptor head to you can stick it on to a "sacred heart" picture you already own to make a cheap, effective Raptorjesus is, however, Great Art.

as is making the downstairs toilet into a 'confessional box' installation.

mcmoustache

magicbastarder wrote: »

i wouldn't break a statue simply for ****s'n'giggles, but i would like the idea of clay jesus shooting.

With jesuses* that you purchase yourself, naturally.


*Is that the plural of jesus? Maybe jesi?

the_syco

mcmoustache wrote: »

*Is that the plural of jesus? Maybe jesi?

Jedi :pac:

=-=

Depends on the article and it's place. If it's there to piss people off, destroy it. If it's there to help people, leave it there.

Bannasidhe

the_syco wrote: »

Jedi :pac:

=-=

Depends on the article and it's place. If it's there to piss people off, destroy it. If it's there to help people, leave it there.

Or it's that sign on the Mallow-Cork road just before you get to the Commons Rd that says 'Jesus Saves' and is crying out for the words 'with the Credit Union' to be added.

magicbastarder

how costly is it to get a statue commissioned? i wonder how well a statue of jesus with a friend's face would go down as a birthday present.

endacl

magicbastarder wrote: »

how costly is it to get a statue commissioned? i wonder how well a statue of jesus with a friend's face would go down as a birthday present.

http://www.tek-lado.com/2011/07/27/get-cloned-at-the-clone-factory/?lang=en

endacl

Surely you wouldn't trash this wonderful icon, OP?!? :eek:

Obliq

magicbastarder wrote: »

how costly is it to get a statue commissioned? i wonder how well a statue of jesus with a friend's face would go down as a birthday present.

A LOT! I would do it for 25 euros per hour, but it could take a lot of hours.

Personally, I collect broken statues. I have a broken child of prague and a broken jebus and a broken curlew/crake type bird, and a broken few other bits. I like them already broken, so any (ahem) mishaps with religious statues and I'll have em, ta muchly I put them sitting together in interesting ways, you see. And sticking out of vases. That kind of thang.

magicbastarder

Obliq wrote: »

A LOT! I would do it for 25 euros per hour, but it could take a lot of hours.

really? what materials?

Obliq

magicbastarder wrote: »

really? what materials?

Well....yes. That is the question. I'm good at plaster carving (or wax carving) and fancy paint jobs, but if you want a statue of jebus with your friend's head attached then you are better off with an actual statue and a new head attached really, in terms of time/money. That would mean a very clever little grafting job with tiny, tiny pegs or something, holding them together. And not fired, or they'd burst apart. Otherwise, you're talking about creating the whole thing, which I know I wouldn't have time for no matter how small, and not the technology either as I don't do firing work at all. Actually, I don't really have time full stop....sigh

If you're wanting a bronze or something classy, then you need to get it carved in wax first. (and obviously buy the bronze and the forging - not cheap!)

Hotblack Desiato

Never broke a statue or anything, but I did secretly burn my confirmation photos :pac:

magicbastarder

Obliq wrote: »

If you're wanting a bronze or something classy, then you need to get it carved in wax first. (and obviously buy the bronze and the forging - not cheap!)

hmm; we *have* been given an invite to visit a bronze forge, so maybe i could sneak some bronze out the back...

Bannasidhe

magicbastarder wrote: »

hmm; we *have* been given an invite to visit a bronze forge, so maybe i could sneak some bronze out the back...

If you try we demand photos.

Dades

Jacques Mesrine wrote: »

What is your opinion of religious articles? Would you have a problem breaking them?

To be fair, Moses started it.

Bannasidhe

Dades wrote: »

To be fair, Moses started it.

Ah now - you are taking that out of context.



:pac:

Lingua Franca

ninja900 wrote: »

Never broke a statue or anything, but I did secretly burn my confirmation photos :pac:

I wish I'd got around to doing that. Between my sullky expression and the truly horrendous outfit the pics are cringeworthy. Alas, they've already been scanned and uploaded to facebook by a kindly cousin.

Speaking of facebook, the admin from an NI loyalist page took a jaunt to Omeath and plastered union flag stickers all over church property, including over the face of pictures of Jesus. One up for pradastint kulchur, I suppose.

Kidchameleon

magicbastarder wrote: »

i wouldn't break a statue simply for ****s'n'giggles, but i would like the idea of clay jesus shooting.

What has Jesus ever done to you?

Bannasidhe

Kidchameleon wrote: »

What has Jesus ever done to you?

Kidchameleon

I lol'd at that Bannasidhe

But seriously I was genuinely curious as to weather magicbastarder had a problem with Jesus himself? I think its safe to assume he didn't tell people to molest kids. And I'm sure Jesus would be rather pissed off with the church himself.

magicbastarder

i wouldn't be shooting the *actual* jesus.

kylith

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I lol'd at that Bannasidhe

But seriously I was genuinely curious as to weather magicbastarder had a problem with Jesus himself? I think its safe to assume he didn't tell people to molest kids. And I'm sure Jesus would be rather pissed off with the church himself.

They completely misinterpreted his 'suffer the little children' remark.

LittleBook

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I have repaired 'religious' statues

So, where exactly did you go on holidays last year??

sbsquarepants

Being the pover that i am, i have had the dubious pleasure of purchasing several used cars over the years - almost all come with a sticker of padre fúcking pio gurning out of the back window. First thing i do is peel the bastard off.
That's how i roll

Bannasidhe

LittleBook wrote: »

So, where exactly did you go on holidays last year??

Granada and Macroom.

magicbastarder

sbsquarepants wrote: »

almost all come with a sticker of padre fúcking pio gurning out of the back window.

the local spar has padre pio tax disc holders for sale. i'm considering buying one for the laugh.

Hotblack Desiato

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Being the pover that i am, i have had the dubious pleasure of purchasing several used cars over the years - almost all come with a sticker of padre fúcking pio gurning out of the back window. First thing i do is peel the bastard off.
That's how i roll

The first over-125cc motorbike I bought had St Christopher badges stuck onto the frame on each side. They immediately fell off for some reason.
Anyway wasn't he de-sainted in the 1960s or something?

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Grenada

fyp

Bannasidhe

ninja900 wrote: »

The first over-125cc motorbike I bought had St Christopher badges stuck onto the frame on each side. They immediately fell off for some reason.
Anyway wasn't he de-sainted in the 1960s or something?



fyp

Technically it was Órgiva.

redfacedbear

Was given some tatty iconography by a neighbour when I was confirmed. Never hung it up like you were meant to but couldn't throw it out for superstition. I reckon my full emergence as an Athiest was achieved when that block of wood went in the bin 4-5 years later.

magicbastarder

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Technically it was Órgiva.

at the bottom of las alpujarras? lovely spot; i've a relative who is a walking tour guide up there.

Bannasidhe

magicbastarder wrote: »

at the bottom of las alpujarras? lovely spot; i've a relative who is a walking tour guide up there.

That's the place. The day we arrived we got invited to an 'inter-faith' all day picnic with ethnic music and religious speakers by some lovely Muslim people.



We didn't go...

magicbastarder

i've holidayed further up into the mountains, in one of the white villages. walk out the door, and within 50 yards, you're surrounded by olive groves, fig groves, sweet chestnut trees, persimmon trees, etc. etc.

Bannasidhe

magicbastarder wrote: »

i've holidayed further up into the mountains, in one of the white villages. walk out the door, and within 50 yards, you're surrounded by olive groves, fig groves, sweet chestnut trees, persimmon trees, etc. etc.

It's a lovely spot. We had quince, fig, orange and lemon trees right next to the patio and amused ourselves in the evening feeding the chickens - chickens are psycho!

Mr_A

magicbastarder wrote: »

i wouldn't break a statue simply for ****s'n'giggles, but i would like the idea of clay jesus shooting.

Marvellous idea. You could also have clay Mohamed shooting using pork bullets so that the blasphemy would work on a number of levels at once.

Sarky

Waste of good pork tbh.