Ratoath Road/Reillys Bridge level crossing elimination

dowlingm

According to the Indo, this project is finally moving forward.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/10m-bridge-to-end-daily-misery-for-commuters-29346279.html

MGWR

€10 million, eh. These bridges don't seem to be getting cheaper. Good old EU.

L1011

When the stopping up order for the LC here are being done, are they going to remember to do Porterstown? Or are we going to be left with a pointless LC that presumably imposes a speed restriction...

Losty Dublin

There was a site on the Finglas side which had to be purchased before anything could be done to move this on. A landowner apparently held the project up for several years by refusing to sell up. The new bridge is 70 metres long all told and there will be a bit of road laying as well.

Gumbo

Losty Dublin wrote: »

There was a site on the Finglas side which had to be purchased before anything could be done to move this on. A landowner apparently held the project up for several years by refusing to sell up. The new bridge is 70 metres long all told and there will be a bit of road laying as well.

Campbell's garage maybe?
I'm nearly sure he was the only/largest objector to the project.

Losty Dublin

kceire wrote: »

Campbell's garage maybe?
I'm nearly sure he was the only/largest objector to the project.

Campbell's garage isn't on the route of the realigned road though they objected to the new bridge. The link below has the approximate route.

http://www.dublincity.ie/Planning/DublinCityDevelopmentPlan/Dev0511/VariationstotheDevelopmentPlan/Documents/Var._No_40_Map.pdf

lucernarian

It's a bit of a shame that they put such a motorist's slant on the article. The many benefits to train services are almost mentioned as an afterthought at the end of the article.

hardCopy

Spotted an electronic display on the Ratoath Road this morning saying "Major Road Works from August 19th. Use Other Route".

No sign of any actual roadworks yet but some activity in the site next to the current bridge.

brandodub

There was a stop /go in place yesturday afternoon as they began work on the grassed area beside Rathoath Estate. Very busy

Zebra3

Assuming there is disruption to rail services on the line, would anybody know how big they would be?

Weekends only? (Hopes).

Hilly Bill

Any work that would affect the line would take place at night or over a bank holiday weekend.

gurramok

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Campbell's garage isn't on the route of the realigned road though they objected to the new bridge. The link below has the approximate route.

http://www.dublincity.ie/Planning/DublinCityDevelopmentPlan/Dev0511/VariationstotheDevelopmentPlan/Documents/Var._No_40_Map.pdf

There's enough spare land(or now to be waste) between the proposed route and old Ratoath road(which will be closed) to fit a new train station there

By the way, I predict if you stop on the new bridge, you will be able to see a whole swathe of Dublin in the distance. You can see as far as Howth Head on the present bridge.

Losty Dublin

gurramok wrote: »

There's enough spare land(or now to be waste) between the proposed route and old Ratoath road(which will be closed) to fit a new train station there .

There is/was proposals for one there but nothing concrete as of yet.

mrsdewinter

Losty Dublin wrote: »

There is/was proposals for one there but nothing concrete as of yet.

That proposal went to Dublin City Council earlier this year. I had a look at the plans for the station at that stage and, from what I could see, the new station would be located further up the canal, beside Royal Canal Park, with access from Ashington also. Which - hopefully - would put an and to the sight of children dashing across the railway line from Ashington to get to the Centra in RCP.

MGWR

gurramok wrote: »

There's enough spare land (or now to be waste) between the proposed route and old Ratoath Road (which will be closed) to fit a new train station there

Just what we need; another station to make the average speed of trains slower.

mrsdewinter

MGWR wrote: »

Just what we need; another station to make the average speed of trains slower.

Well, I live in RCP, so I'm biased - but I do think that there's enough business locally to justify a station. Particularly if there was access from Ashington, a cul-de-sac served only by the 122 bus.
The Pelletstown station would be far less of a white elephant than some other stations I can think of.

Infini

MGWR wrote: »

Just what we need; another station to make the average speed of trains slower.

Actually the plan was to build the station there at Ratoath Crossing so they could outright $hitcan Broombridge permenantly.

dowlingm

Infini2 wrote: »

Actually the plan was to build the station there at Ratoath Crossing so they could outright $hitcan Broombridge permenantly.

What about Line D's terminus?

gama90

So does that mean the current bridge is going to be dismantled? I saw serious works on the ratoath road on Saturday morning

murphaph

I doubt they'll demolish the existing bridge. Canal bridges are generally listed structures AFAIK. I can't think of a case where one has been demolished in recent years. They'll likely leave it for pedestrians to use.

TheBandicoot

Not sure what use it has once the railway is fenced off. Might be used as part of a walking path to the proposed Pelletstown station, or just an access point to the line for IE.

hardCopy

It looks on the ground like there's two separate roadways being laid parallel to the existing road on the Cabra side with one ramping up to the new bridge, maybe the old bridge will be connected to the other new lane for access to the tyre shop from Cabra.

Victor

You can download the drawings here: http://www.dublincity.ie/ROADSANDTRAFFIC/MAJORTRANSPORTPROJECTS/Pages/Reilly%E2%80%99sBridge.aspx

L1011

Bridge deck is sitting beside the new abutments and there's a huge crane in place also. Anyone know if there's a track possession for the lift scheduled?

Losty Dublin

MYOB wrote: »

Bridge deck is sitting beside the new abutments and there's a huge crane in place also. Anyone know if there's a track possession for the lift scheduled?

The end of October was what I heard.

mrsdewinter

Losty Dublin wrote: »

The end of October was what I heard.

I heard in July that the lifting into place would take place in August. Obviously, that's incorrect but surely, with that large crane in situ, the metal bridge will be hoisted up this week.

ongarboy

I was just thinking of this today as I passed it. Will train services need to be suspended for the installation of the bridge or will it all be done out of hours/weekends?

L1011

ongarboy wrote: »

I was just thinking of this today as I passed it. Will train services need to be suspended for the installation of the bridge or will it all be done out of hours/weekends?

Done overnight but that doesn't mean it won't disrupt services: http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/D/0552/D.0552.200204170099.html

Skylinehead

Bridge went up last night I think.

Losty Dublin

Skylinehead wrote: »

Bridge went up last night I think.

Yep, late enough as well. The crossing is still open for the time being pending the usual testing etc of the bridge as well as work on the road realignment.

hardCopy

Happened to drive past on Friday night when it was being moved. Lots of activity and a large audience, unfortunately couldn't stop for a proper look.

mrsdewinter

Went past there last night - still lots of work to be done but it looks great so far. Can't wait for it to be finished...

ongarboy

Must have been engrossed in my smartphone. Forgot to notice it this morning. Will keep an eye out for it this evening on my way home!

Sclob

I took some photos od the bridge today, how do I add them to a post?

D Trent

Sclob wrote: »

I took some photos od the bridge today, how do I add them to a post?

After you have clicked 'post'
you will see the option ' attach files' on the bottom. Click on this and it should bring you to whatever photos you have on your phone/ computer desktop

Sclob

D Trent wrote: »

After you have clicked 'post'
you will see the option ' attach files' on the bottom. Click on this and it should bring you to whatever photos you have on your phone/ computer desktop

Hi D Trent, thanks for that, haven't found attach files yet. Using IE 11. When I press Post Reply I get the following in the Reply to thread area Title: Message: and Post Icons, Preview Post and Submit Reply

Under that is Additional Options section with Thread Subscription and Rate Thread

Under that is a Topic Review area. Don't see attach files anywhere.

CrabRevolution

Sclob wrote: »

Hi D Trent, thanks for that, haven't found attach files yet. Using IE 11. When I press Post Reply I get the following in the Reply to thread area Title: Message: and Post Icons, Preview Post and Submit Reply

Under that is Additional Options section with Thread Subscription and Rate Thread

Under that is a Topic Review area. Don't see attach files anywhere.

I dont think new users are allowed attach files, you need to rack up 50 posts first.

D Trent

CrabRevolution wrote: »

I dont think new users are allowed attach files, you need to rack up 50 posts first.

Ahhh that's it.

Go on Sclob rack up 48 more posts there no matter how pointless they are.

I wanna see these photos !

hardCopy

Stick them up on wthax.org our a similar site and post the links

Sclob

Uploaded them to imageshack but got "You cannot post with images, URLs or attachments because you are a new user." when I posted link. They don't make it easy.

Sclob

I have a suggestion. I have created an account in imageshack, created an album called Reilly's Bridge, uploaded 16 images to it. If I select them all and press get link I get a long list of links which I have. If someone wants to pm me I will email them the links and you can post the links if you have over 50 posts on Boards. Would that work?



... or are you not allowed pm someone who has less than 50 posts?

Sclob

D Trent I pm'ed you with the links to the photos on imageshack if you want to check them and post them?

Sclob

Its a hell of a bridge, six posts ...

Victor

You can post links, just delete everything up to and including the www bit.

So instead of posting http://www.boards.ie post boards.ie

D Trent

Images courtesy of Sclob

D Trent

"The bridge span is 70m with a width of 15.4m to the outside of the steelwork. The Steel structure was manufactured by Horta Coslada in Madrid. The weight of the lift is approximately 330 tonnes comprising approximately 305 tonnes of structural steel work with an additional 25 tonnes of tackle and hook block. The weight of the overall bridge is approximately 1620 tonnes including structural steel, structural concrete, pavement, parapets and finishes. The Crane which will be used to lift the bridge into position has come in by sea from the UK.

The new bridge will, in tandem with other planned projects, allow for future increased capacity on the rail line for train services. It will also eliminate major road congestion at the crossing, with 107 trains passing through the level crossing each day, including up to 55 services at peak times causing constant traffic queues while the gates are closed. "
http://www.irishrail.ie/reillyscrossing

D Trent

Sclob

Put http colon forward slash forward slash in front of the omg in each of these. In fact if the first one works just change the number to view the next:

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Zebra3

Will this have an immediate effect of shaving any journey time off train commutes?

LXFlyer

Well it will eliminate potential delays due to the gates not being opened in time for the trains.

But no change in scheduled running times for the trains.

The traffic on the Ratoath Road will benefit greatly due to not being held up any more at the crossing.

SeanW

It will also likely allow a greater number of Maynooth line trains, so that (assuming your journey is "turn up and go") you will likely spend less time waiting for a train.