Duracoat aerosol

rowa

Does anyone in ireland sell duracoat or cerakote in aerosols ? I need a tough matt black paint for a project.

juice1304

Gunhappy dose duracoat give him a shout. The problem in getting it is it is a hazmat item so shipping is very expensive.

HughF

Halfords Matt black bumper paint

I used Duracoate a few years back and was very disappointed. Basically it is a paint and chips on wire fences. I decided to use car paint after that and found that Halfords Bumper paint is every bit as good and much cheaper. Not to mention easier to buy use and repair.

Cass

Was reading back through a few threads on this very subject. Seems there is a crowd in England that sell the kits for around £120 or so. Shipping the paints from the US is fairly expensive due to the nature of the goods so England would be a better option.

Gunhappy would be the man to talk to. Dealing with it, and using it he might know. Also try ejg as he uses it on his stocks so might have some or know where to get it.

One thing i did read was the stuff available in the hardware shops, and DIY centres such as Woodies or B n Q, etc are not the same. Just a cheaper imitation of it.

cruisedub1

rowa wrote: »

Does anyone in ireland sell duracoat or cerakote in aerosols ? I need a tough matt black paint for a project.

If its for a firearm try high temperature bar-b-Que paint , worked well for me on a 1917 Enfield i got a few years back .

Cass

Was thinking along the same lines. Would something like car exhaust/manifold paint work?

I've no idea of the finish quality, but it's high temp resistant. The only up side to using it is the price and availability, but for the proper job/finish you'd need the real stuff.


Again i've no experience with this or duracoating so excuse the stupid answers if they are such.

rowa

I might give the halfrauds bumper stuff a whirl, its not a job I will worry much over, I thought the duracoat might be worth a go if easily available.

Vegeta

HughF wrote: »

I used Duracoate a few years back and was very disappointed

I have had the opposite experience I have to say. Gunhappy did my old tikka and it lasted much better than I expected. Wouldn't hesitate to get it done again.

cruisedub1

cruisedub1 wrote: »

If its for a firearm try high temperature bar-b-Que paint , worked well for me on a 1917 Enfield i got a few years back .

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last picture is the rifle before I applied the finish , its been two years now and the paint is still in good condition .

rowa

Nice Enfield cruisedub, .30-06 I presume ? I did try the bar-b-que paint before on a different project but found oil removed it easily. Maybe I hadn't let it cure properly.

cruisedub1

rowa wrote: »

Nice Enfield cruisedub, .30-06 I presume ? I did try the bar-b-que paint before on a different project but found oil removed it easily. Maybe I hadn't let it cure properly.

Before you apply the paint you need to clean the metal thoroughly , I use M E K ( methyl ethyl ketone ) . Just be very careful when you use it and follow all instructions . After you clean it wear latex gloves when handling the firearm as oil from you skin can effect the finish ,

MarcinG

I was thinking about using duracoat myslef on brand new gun over blueing. But above makes me think that this is bad idea - Anyone wit experience with "2 can in 1" duracoat since?

ejg

We've been using Duracoat for a little over eight years now. It is a fantastic product and hard to beat. I have over twenty years experience in the development of ultra highly filled polymeres and we have experimented with ceramic paints a bit. Although we had good results, duracoat was better on the ease of application. The big problem with almost all surface coatings is that one needs to prep very well, of course start with material that is compatible with the paint, coat in the right way and then if possible the right heat treatment. The metal bits we coat with duracoat we cure for at least 4 days in our oven. It makes a difference. As often the little things that make a good or bad job.
edi

MarcinG

I thought that only ceracoat or ceracote whatever it is called required curying in oven.

ejg

Marcin,
oven does not = oven. With Ceracoat you have to go quite high in temperature, for many plastics or composites to high to handle.
Our oven that cures our resins to aerospace spec runs at only 60 deg. This is an ideal temperature for paints.
Some say car paints or duracoat are only fully cured after 3-6 weeks if one does not heat treat. I also think the heat does something chemical to attach the paint better to the substrate.
In other words duracoat does not require heat treatment however it will cure quicker and possibly better with some form of heat.
One has to be careful with some materials even at 60 deg C. For example we had a HS precision stock crack on us as we cured the paint. A car in the sun with closed windows can easily reach 60 deg C inside.
edi

Grizzly 45

Have to say te Duracoat and Gunhappy's work is spot on.He did two of my guns and I cant complain about the finish or its durability.