Why do the Irish make such a big deal out of approaching members of the opposite sex?

Singularity 1

Having been to a lot of European countries I've noticed the way men and women interact on a night out is a lot different. Approaching an Irish woman is almost like crossing enemy lines. The guys usually need a bit of dutch courage and the women are often very defensive and assume he's only after one thing. That hasn't been my experience anywhere else where they are more laid back about been approached and are unassuming.

It's 2013 now and not much has changed here. Do you think the Irish have a lot of gender hang ups?

danotroy

If I was a female I wouldn't take to kindly to the drunken advances of a male wearing ill fitting stone washed jeans with crosshatch emblazoned on the back, which are frayed at the ends from walking on them. Paired with dress shoes and a Tommy Hilfiger polo shirt.

Singularity 1

danotroy wrote: »

If I was a female I wouldn't take to kindly to the drunken advances of a male wearing ill fitting stone washed jeans with crosshatch emblazoned on the back, which are frayed at the ends from walking on them. Paired with dress shoes and a Tommy Hilfiger polo shirt.

Of course, but we aint all like that.

danotroy

Singularity 1 wrote: »

Of course, but we aint all like that.

oh no i'm not saying we all are but maybe approach girls in places other than bars.

Seanafitz

danotroy wrote: »

oh no i'm not saying we all are but maybe approach girls in places other than bars.

its simple ... Woman don't wana be picked up in bars these days ... Most woman go ou for a good time with friends... Being chatted up in a bar when your tryin to have a night out is very annoying ...

Czarcasm

Singularity 1 wrote: »

Having been to a lot of European countries I've noticed the way men and women interact on a night out is a lot different. Approaching an Irish woman is almost like crossing enemy lines. The guys usually need a bit of dutch courage and the women are often very defensive and assume he's only after one thing. That hasn't been my experience anywhere else where they are more laid back about been approached and are unassuming.

It's 2013 now and not much has changed here. Do you think the Irish have a lot of gender hang ups?

No OP. I think it's just YOU has a lot of gender hang ups tbh.

getz

Singularity 1 wrote: »

Having been to a lot of European countries I've noticed the way men and women interact on a night out is a lot different. Approaching an Irish woman is almost like crossing enemy lines. The guys usually need a bit of dutch courage and the women are often very defensive and assume he's only after one thing. That hasn't been my experience anywhere else where they are more laid back about been approached and are unassuming.

It's 2013 now and not much has changed here. Do you think the Irish have a lot of gender hang ups?

in Ireland its mainly down to the single sex schools , if you don't mix with the opposite sex from a early age you may find it difficult as you get older.i noticed my son at school age had as many girls [I mean as friends]coming to our house as boys,

Czarcasm

Seanafitz wrote: »

its simple ... Woman don't wana be picked up in bars these days ... Most woman go ou for a good time with friends... Being chatted up in a bar when your tryin to have a night out is very annoying ...

YOU think "most" women don't like being picked up in bars, but you can only really speak for yourself in all fairness.

Seanafitz

Czarcasm wrote: »

No OP. I think it's just YOU has a lot of gender hang ups tbh.

no I see OP's point ... I can see why men are reluctant in this country to approach women ... We can be such b***h's sometimes when a man gets to pushy, touchy feely... Very degrading for a woman when a man starts making advances of that sort (not sayin all do) .. But men and woman just don't seem to in harmony with alcohol on them either

Czarcasm

getz wrote: »

in Ireland its mainly down to the single sex schools , if you don't mix with the opposite sex from a early age you may find it difficult as you get older.i noticed my son at school age had as many girls [I mean as friends]coming to our house as boys,

A child is only in school from 9 o clock til quarter to 3, after that they have the whole evening and the weekend and now they have summer holidays to mix with children of the opposite sex. The whole single schools nonsense is a myth when most primary schools in Ireland are mixed sex, so a child IS mixing with the opposite sex from an early age.

Seanafitz

Czarcasm wrote: »

YOU think "most" women don't like being picked up in bars, but you can only really speak for yourself in all fairness.

I know a lot of woman who wouldn be going ou on a night ou on a hunt for a fella ... we have better things to do than go husband hunting in a bar full of drunken Irish idiots

Seanafitz

Czarcasm wrote: »

A child is only in school from 9 o clock til quarter to 3, after that they have the whole evening and the weekend and now they have summer holidays to mix with children of the opposite sex. The whole single schools nonsense is a myth when most primary schools in Ireland are mixed sex, so a child IS mixing with the opposite sex from an early age.

do you just like quoting and bolding or something??

Singularity 1

Seanafitz wrote: »

its simple ... Woman don't wana be picked up in bars these days ... Most woman go ou for a good time with friends... Being chatted up in a bar when your tryin to have a night out is very annoying ...

I find that to be the case too, although approaching people outside of the pub/club is not really the done thing here in fairness.

professore

Czarcasm wrote: »

A child is only in school from 9 o clock til quarter to 3, after that they have the whole evening and the weekend and now they have summer holidays to mix with children of the opposite sex. The whole single schools nonsense is a myth when most primary schools in Ireland are mixed sex, so a child IS mixing with the opposite sex from an early age.

primary school doesn't count speaking from personal experience.

wendell borton

"Don't people know that's where cooties come from."

getz

Czarcasm wrote: »

A child is only in school from 9 o clock til quarter to 3, after that they have the whole evening and the weekend and now they have summer holidays to mix with children of the opposite sex. The whole single schools nonsense is a myth when most primary schools in Ireland are mixed sex, so a child IS mixing with the opposite sex from an early age.

then is it down to religious teaching?,as said by OP there is a shyness about mixing of the sexes in ireland

Czarcasm

Seanafitz wrote: »

no I see OP's point ... I can see why men are reluctant in this country to approach women ... We can be such b***h's sometimes when a man gets to pushy, touchy feely... Very degrading for a woman when a man starts making advances of that sort (not sayin all do) .. But men and woman just don't seem to in harmony with alcohol on them either

Ahh well that's different, I could understand any woman in that situation would be uncomfortable when faced with a drooling gob****e who reeks of "eau de desperation", but that's a particular set of circumstances. In my experience at least I can chat to a girl without giving off the vibe that I just want to get into her knickers.

Some girls are disappointed by that too though! :pac:

But usually it works itself out and we're able to have a laugh. This whole nonsense though about "women" as a whole gender and the generalisations that follow is just silly.

The OP for example has never given a thought to the fact that it might just be them, basing their opinion on very limited experience.

Singularity 1

Seanafitz wrote: »

do you just like quoting and bolding or something??

No he just likes to label anyone who has an opinion.

Czarcasm

Seanafitz wrote: »

do you just like quoting and bolding or something??

Just highlighting points I was addressing is all, but sure feck it, I'll leave so because this thread will soon turn into one of the many "fordinner wimmins is more up for it than Irish catholic bitches" nonsense threads where sexually frustrated, immature and insecure grown men gather to console each other and reinforce each others misguided, misdirected and ill informed perspectives, in the vain hope of making themselves feel better about their lack of social skills.

Bipolar Joe

Genuine question, here, but if chicks don't like being "Chatted up" in bars, where the fuck else is it OK? Tesco? Quigley's? The bus stop?

The Backwards Man

Why do people make silly generalisations about Irish men and women that aren't true at all?

Czarcasm

Singularity 1 wrote: »

No he just likes to label anyone who has an opinion.

How did I label anyone? Neither here nor in the last thread started by Pug which was closed because it went circular, and this thread will do the same. It was actually yourself and your fellow blueball supporters group that were doing all the labelling tbh, labelling all women as this that and the other just because of YOUR limited experiences, and trying then to extrapolate that out to the entire population.

In a foreign country, you're a novelty, and foreign women are a novelty.

In Ireland, Irish women are no more unapproachable than foreign women, you're just not a novelty to them is all so they won't immediately be falling over themselves to chat to you, the same way as you're obviously not falling over yourself to chat to Irish women.

Lams

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Genuine question, here, but if chicks don't like being "Chatted up" in bars, where the fuck else is it OK? Tesco? Quigley's? The bus stop?

The majority of women IMO enjoy being chatted up by someone who is competent at doing it and who knows how to flirt, have fun and let her relax. It's the annoying needy chat up attempts that are despised.

Singularity 1

Czarcasm wrote: »

How did I label anyone? Neither here nor in the last thread started by Pug which was closed because it went circular, and this thread will do the same. It was actually yourself and your fellow blueball supporters group that were doing all the labelling tbh, labelling all women as this that and the other just because of YOUR limited experiences, and trying then to extrapolate that out to the entire population.

In a foreign country, you're a novelty, and foreign women are a novelty.

In Ireland, Irish women are no more unapproachable than foreign women, you're just not a novelty to them is all so they won't immediately be falling over themselves to chat to you, the same way as you're obviously not falling over yourself to chat to Irish women.

And how do you know my experiences are limited? Blueball supporters? Yeah you see, people might take you more seriously if you weren't constantly berating posters who has an opinion that doesn't agree with you. And I don't see any labelling of women going on here as we're talking about both sexes.

getz

Lams wrote: »

The majority of women IMO enjoy being chatted up by someone who is competent at doing it and who knows how to flirt, have fun and let her relax. It's the annoying needy chat up attempts that are despised.

like,i must phone heaven,they have lost a angel.

Czarcasm

Singularity 1 wrote: »

And how do you know my experiences are limited?

I know from your ill informed opinion whenever the subject comes up, and your quickness, even in the thread title, to make massive generalisations that have no basis in reality whatsoever. How is one person who has difficulty mixing with the opposite sex able to extrapolate that out to a whole population?

Blueball supporters? Yeah you see, people might take you more seriously if you weren't constantly berating posters who has an opinion that doesn't agree with you.

Alright, I'll raise the tone of the discussion then so long as we don't get the same nonsense that was thrown about in the last thread like the deluded white knight that is only agreeing with the wimminz on the interwebz in the hope of getting the ride.

And I wasn't berating you or anyone else, that would be personally abusive, I find people who make sweeping statements and ridiculous generalisations are hard to take seriously at the best of times, but I try to remain civil as possible.

And I don't see any labelling of women going on here as we're talking about both sexes.

Are we really?

Singularity 1 wrote: »

Having been to a lot of European countries I've noticed the way men and women interact on a night out is a lot different.

Approaching an Irish woman is almost like crossing enemy lines. The guys usually need a bit of dutch courage and the women are often very defensive and assume he's only after one thing. That hasn't been my experience anywhere else where they are more laid back about been approached and are unassuming.

It's 2013 now and not much has changed here. Do you think the Irish have a lot of gender hang ups?

Maybe if the guy didn't consume so much dutch courage, these women might not be so defensive. That's just my own theory though, the same as I would've observed some men that are put off by women who approach them having consumed a bit too much dutch courage!

It really DOES work both ways. Oh, and if you want to compare like with like, you'll meet your foreign male counterparts too that are lacking in social skills and put it down to "<Insert nationality here> women are unapproachable".

You seriously think a couple of nights out in a foreign country enables you to make any sort of a definitive statement on an entire population, let alone a whole gender?

Seanafitz

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Genuine question, here, but if chicks don't like being "Chatted up" in bars, where the fuck else is it OK? Tesco? Quigley's? The bus stop?

don't chat us up at all!! How many people do you know who met in a bar and became a couple ?? My own experience ... I know two couples who met in the same bar and then coincidentally broke up in said same bar about six months seven months later a couple of weeks apart ... And all there relationship consisted of was sitting in watching tv caus the girls wer usually to paronoid there man only wanted to go out so they could crawl around the pub looking at woman like he was the night he met her and 'swooned' her ... Think about it ... Your a woman ... Your hormones are naturally all over the place so your unstable as is .... And you meet a man in a bar ... He buys you a drink chats you up the works ... An while you don't usually you go along and have a laugh with him .... You start seeing him and two weeks\six months later he suggests you go back to the bar you met on a night out... You think heyy why not ...

You only catch it once ... But its that scan of the room he does as you walk in the door tells you their could possibly be some close to us now that has been with him before ... Or else ... He's usuing me to make other woman jelous for what ever god damned reason we could possibly make up in our heads ... And that's it ... The seed is planted ... The relationship is doomed

See woman are crazy ... We wana meet a man in a place that reflects what that man is about and his personality ... Bars just don't do it. .. Try the library she might think your educated

Singularity 1

Czarcasm wrote: »

I know from your ill informed opinion whenever the subject comes up, and your quickness, even in the thread title, to make massive generalisations that have no basis in reality whatsoever. How is one person who has difficulty mixing with the opposite sex able to extrapolate that out to a whole population?





Alright, I'll raise the tone of the discussion then so long as we don't get the same nonsense that was thrown about in the last thread like the deluded white knight that is only agreeing with the wimminz on the interwebz in the hope of getting the ride.

And I wasn't berating you or anyone else, that would be personally abusive, I find people who make sweeping statements and ridiculous generalisations are hard to take seriously at the best of times, but I try to remain civil as possible.





Are we really?





Maybe if the guy didn't consume so much dutch courage, these women might not be so defensive. That's just my own theory though, the same as I would've observed some men that are put off by women who approach them having consumed a bit too much dutch courage!

It really DOES work both ways. Oh, and if you want to compare like with like, you'll meet your foreign male counterparts too that are lacking in social skills and put it down to "<Insert nationality here> women are unapproachable".

You seriously think a couple of nights out in a foreign country enables you to make any sort of a definitive statement on an entire population, let alone a whole gender?

I've been here all but a week and you're making assumptions about me. FYI, I rarely drink and have no problem socializing with the opposite sex. You just seem to think anyone who has an opinion on women is somehow sexually frustrated. The thread title is about the Irish people approaching members of the opposite sex and I did mention men needing the dutch courage, so yes, we're not just talking about women here.

The thread doesn't have to go down that slope. Yeah of course there are a few generalisations but so what? There is an element of truth to it. Like the drunken Irish man stereotype didn't just come from nowhere. You seem to have a habit of making a mountain out of a molehill. No need to take is so seriously and berate others whos opinion doesn't agree with yours.

The Backwards Man

Seanafitz wrote: »

don't chat us up at all!! How many people do you know who met in a bar and became a couple ?? My own experience ... I know two couples who met in the same bar and then coincidentally broke up in said same bar about six months seven months later a couple of weeks apart ... And all there relationship consisted of was sitting in watching tv caus the girls wer usually to paronoid there man only wanted to go out so they could crawl around the pub looking at woman like he was the night he met her and 'swooned' her ... Think about it ... Your a woman ... Your hormones are naturally all over the place so your unstable as is .... And you meet a man in a bar ... He buys you a drink chats you up the works ... An while you don't usually you go along and have a laugh with him .... You start seeing him and two weeks\six months later he suggests you go back to the bar you met on a night out... You think heyy why not ...

You only catch it once ... But its that scan of the room he does as you walk in the door tells you their could possibly be some close to us now that has been with him before ... Or else ... He's usuing me to make other woman jelous for what ever god damned reason we could possibly make up in our heads ... And that's it ... The seed is planted ... The relationship is doomed

See woman are crazy ... We wana meet a man in a place that reflects what that man is about and his personality ... Bars just don't do it. .. Try the library she might think your educated

That sounds like one dive of a bar.

Seanafitz

Singularity 1 wrote: »

I've been here all but a week and you're making assumptions about me. FYI, I rarely drink and have no problem socializing with the opposite sex. You just seem to think anyone who has an opinion on women is somehow sexually frustrated. The thread title is about the Irish people approaching members of the opposite sex and I did mention men needing the dutch courage, so yes, we're not just talking about women here.

The thread doesn't have to go down that slope. Yeah of course there are a few generalisations but so what? There is an element of truth to it. Like the drunken Irish man stereotype didn't just come from nowhere. You seem to have a habit of making a mountain out of a molehill. No need to take is so seriously and berate others whos opinion doesn't agree with yours.

yes, and also likes to qoute'n'bold

Seanafitz

The Backwards Man wrote: »

That sounds like one dive of a bar.

it was I suppose ... Its shut down now ... The building is empty as far as I know ... Probably the Resting place for the ghosts of relationships past

daedal

As another person has mentioned above, it really is down to the system of single sex schools in this country. It really ****s up your social skills development. We should learn how to relate to the opposite sex from an early age.

I grew up in England and single sex schools were practically unheard off, it's not normal to segregate people on gender, very unhealthy.

Seanafitz

daedal wrote: »

As another person has mentioned above, it really is down to the system of single sex schools in this country. It really ****s up your social skills development. We should learn how to relate to the opposite sex from an early age.

I grew up in England and single sex schools were practically unheard off, it's not normal to segregate people on gender, very unhealthy.

that will be the church fault ..

Czarcasm

Seanafitz wrote: »

See woman are crazy ... We wana meet a man in a place that reflects what that man is about and his personality ... Bars just don't do it. .. Try the library she might think your educated

Jesus! :pac:

Women aren't crazy at all. What IS crazy though, is the notion that you think you can speak for a whole gender.

If I want to socialise with people in a relaxed environment I'll go to a bar or a club. I do agree with you though that chat up lines are just corny, as are any kind of preconceived notions.

If I want not to be disturbed while I'm reading or studying - I'll go to the library. I doubt too many people would think I was intelligent though just by looking at me! :pac:

Singularity 1

Czarcasm wrote: »

Jesus! :pac:If I want to socialise with people in a relaxed environment I'll go to a bar or a club.

How exactly is a club a relaxed environment? Do they not play the ounce ounce ounce music in clubs anymore?

The Backwards Man

daedal wrote: »

As another person has mentioned above, it really is down to the system of single sex schools in this country. It really ****s up your social skills development. We should learn how to relate to the opposite sex from an early age.

I grew up in England and single sex schools were practically unheard off, it's not normal to segregate people on gender, very unhealthy.

Do people really think there is a different way that you should relate to members of either sex? Maybe it's me that's fcuked up, because I treat everyone the same. I went to mixed schools though so I don't know whether that makes a difference or not.

SpaceTime

Because most of us go to single sex schools until we are 18 and never learn anything about how to deal with the opposite sex in a normal way.

Guys who had female friends, sisters etc are more likely to have some social skills than guys who didn't though.


I think the school uniform thing also may explain why many of us have no / weird dress sense too. normal development of a sense of style is deliberately quashed by forcing us into hideous uniforms designed by nuns in the 50s.

Somehow Irish people think school is supposed to be about being sent off to some weird place with no girls or no guys wearing a ridiculous uniform where you learn all the answers to some exam questions off by heart and develop a hunch due to lack of sports facilities and too much hunching over a desk.

getz

this maybe of interest to OP,on the web i came up with this,how to chat up an irish girl in Dublin-insiders guide to hidden Dublin. walk up to the girl and say something neutral like-are your feet killing you in those shoes,i hope its worth it-or so do irish guys think you are good looking-do Dublin lads chase after you a lot-they would be mad not to think your lovely looking-gosh you are a stunner.problem solved

Seanafitz

getz wrote: »

this maybe of interest to OP,on the web i came up with this,how to chat up an irish girl in Dublin-insiders guide to hidden Dublin. walk up to the girl and say something neutral like-are your feet killing you in those shoes,i hope its worth it-or so do irish guys think you are good looking-do Dublin lads chase after you a lot-they would be mad not to think your lovely looking-gosh you are a stunner.problem solved

no I can tell you now that would not work

Singularity 1

getz wrote: »

this maybe of interest to OP,on the web i came up with this,how to chat up an irish girl in Dublin-insiders guide to hidden Dublin. walk up to the girl and say something neutral like-are your feet killing you in those shoes,i hope its worth it-or so do irish guys think you are good looking-do Dublin lads chase after you a lot-they would be mad not to think your lovely looking-gosh you are a stunner.problem solved

That's what I normally do tbh, and I don't bother with chat up lines. Except I live in Kildare.

Czarcasm

Singularity 1 wrote: »

I've been here all but a week and you're making assumptions about me. FYI, I rarely drink and have no problem socializing with the opposite sex. You just seem to think anyone who has an opinion on women is somehow sexually frustrated.

Interesting. I see what you did there

The thread title is about the Irish people approaching members of the opposite sex and I did mention men needing the dutch courage, so yes, we're not just talking about women here.

Alright then, lets talk about Irish people and stop all this "foreigners is the shìt" nonsense, because if it's that much better over there - move over there, because a whole nation isn't going to change any time soon.

The thread doesn't have to go down that slope. Yeah of course there are a few generalisations but so what?

You can't generalise about entire populations or genders if you want to actually have a serious discussion on the issue, otherwise the question in your thread deserves but a simple yes or no answer with no need for discussion.

There is an element of truth to it. Like the drunken Irish man stereotype didn't just come from nowhere.

It didn't, but then neither did the vodka drinking Russian or the mail order brides only looking to marry rich Irish men, etc, etc, there's elements of truth in everything, but how much of it is actually true and how much of it is just bitter hearsay is something else entirely.

You seem to have a habit of making a mountain out of a molehill. No need to take is so seriously and berate others whos opinion doesn't agree with yours.

See your own first paragraph about making assumptions. I wasn't berating you either, I was merely expressing a difference of opinion with your experience, based upon my experience. You're very quick to pull out the "stop picking on me you big bully!" card when someone doesn't agree with you. If you didn't want me to take you seriously, you should've just said so in the OP and saved me a lot of trouble.

getz

Seanafitz wrote: »

no I can tell you now that would not work

get them to laugh and you are half way there

Seanafitz

Czarcasm wrote: »

Interesting. I see what you did there





Alright then, lets talk about Irish people and stop all this "foreigners is the shìt" nonsense, because if it's that much better over there - move over there, because a whole nation isn't going to change any time soon.




You can't generalise about entire populations or genders if you want to actually have a serious discussion on the issue, otherwise the question in your thread deserves but a simple yes or no answer with no need for discussion.





It didn't, but then neither did the vodka drinking Russian or the mail order brides only looking to marry rich Irish men, etc, etc, there's elements of truth in everything, but how much of it is actually true and how much of it is just bitter hearsay is something else entirely.





See your own first paragraph about making assumptions. I wasn't berating you either, I was merely expressing a difference of opinion with your experience, based upon my experience. You're very quick to pull out the "stop picking on me you big bully!" card when someone doesn't agree with you. If you didn't want me to take you seriously, you should've just said so in the OP and saved me a lot of trouble.

my goodness

mattjack

Seanafitz wrote: »

it was I suppose ... Its shut down now ... The building is empty as far as I know ... Probably the Resting place for the ghosts of relationships past

Magnificent , sounds like a film on True Movies.

Singularity 1

Czarcasm wrote: »

Interesting. I see what you did there :pSee your own first paragraph about making assumptions. I wasn't berating you either, I was merely expressing a difference of opinion with your experience, based upon my experience. You're very quick to pull out the "stop picking on me you big bully!" card when someone doesn't agree with you. If you didn't want me to take you seriously, you should've just said so in the OP and saved me a lot of trouble.

And once again you've gone on a big long rant. Ok, you've made your point. Can we get back to the topic now? Jeez. You're just derailing the thread now.

Freddy Smelly

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Genuine question, here, but if chicks don't like being "Chatted up" in bars, where the fuck else is it OK? Tesco? Quigley's? The bus stop?

weight-watchers

kylith

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Do people really think there is a different way that you should relate to members of either sex? Maybe it's me that's fcuked up, because I treat everyone the same. I went to mixed schools though so I don't know whether that makes a difference or not.

It makes sense that you wouldn't see it if you've come from a mixed school. The problem is that in segragated schools they never learn that girls are normal. Unless they have sisters they might never really be in the company of girls so females become something strange, and then when they're driven to try talk to them at puberty they have no idea what to do.

Czarcasm

Singularity 1 wrote: »

How exactly is a club a relaxed environment? Do they not play the ounce ounce ounce music in clubs anymore?

Ahh I see - different strokes for different folks. Like see you wouldn't see the club as an environment where you could relax, whereas I would. There's loads of different clubs you can go to too, but me personally I like the volume up loud so it drowns out my thoughts where my mind is racing at a thousand thoughts a minute, and if I meet someone there then well you just have to lean in closer to chat to each other.

I'm not normally a fan of people invading my personal space, but as I'm more relaxed, I can allow for it to happen.

Table Top Joe

kylith wrote: »

It makes sense that you wouldn't see it if you've come from a mixed school. The problem is that in segragated schools they never learn that girls are normal. Unless they have sisters they might never really be in the company of girls so females become something strange, and then when they're driven to try talk to them at puberty they have no idea what to do.

This is it really, myself and my friends(except one who was fearless) all felt this way.....females might as well have been from another planet,we weren't seeing them as just other people but as mysterious,unattainable sex objects


Some people are just naturally very confident and cant see this at all even if they went to single sex schools,especially the better looking ones


And people who went to mixed schools have absolutely no idea what this is like(and good for them,if I ever have kids they'll go to a mixed school too)

Czarcasm

kylith wrote: »

It makes sense that you wouldn't see it if you've come from a mixed school. The problem is that in segragated schools they never learn that girls are normal. Unless they have sisters they might never really be in the company of girls so females become something strange, and then when they're driven to try talk to them at puberty they have no idea what to do.

Ohh come on, this blaming single sex schools is just silly. I only have one sister and she was batshìt crazy, my mother IS batshìt crazy, I went to a mixed primary school, and an all boys Christian Brothers School, and yet I was still able to treat girls as though they hadn't just landed from outer space.

It really IS dependent on the individual. I've experienced guys who can't mix with guys and girls who can't mix with girls. Does anyone care to explain that one by blaming something else but themselves or would that be dragging the thread off topic?

Why has the whole idea of a person's inability to mix with the opposite sex become such an issue in AH lately? And it's usually guys are complaining about women. I've yet to see a thread started by a woman complaining about guys as if guys are supposed to be falling at their feet.

She wouldn't be long getting "berated".

Singularity 1

Czarcasm wrote: »

Why has the whole idea of a person's inability to mix with the opposite sex become such an issue in AH lately? And it's usually guys are complaining about women. I've yet to see a thread started by a woman complaining about guys as if guys are supposed to be falling at their feet.

She wouldn't be long getting "berated".

That's your interpretation of it. I don't see it that way, and you're the only one who has brought it up in this thread. You're seeing what you want to see.