God damages Lourdes shrine causing hundreds of thousands of euro's of damage

Cabaal

Why would god do such a thing? Surely it makes no sense that he'd damage a shrine dedicated to Mary? Maybe they had a fight?

Residents of the French town of Lourdes are clearing up after severe flash floods which forced the closure of its holy shrine.

The town's Massabielle cave, where the Virgin Mary is said to have appeared to a local girl, is one of the most famous Catholic pilgrimage sites in the world, attracting nearly six million visitors every year.

The cost of repairing the shrine is expected to run into hundreds of thousands of euros.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22982169

Good old god's will eh?
guess he thought spending 100,000's of euro's on repairs was better money spent then spending it on poor people?

endacl

Mary burnt the dinner. There was a fight. Both Mary and god ran out to get some 'alone time'. They left the taps running.

Jeez. I happens. Give them a break FFS. It's the child I feel sorry for...

TouchingVirus

I wonder if the church will pay for the repa..... I couldn't actually continue if I tried

It's because of sin. All bad things are never caused by god. Unless it's his flawed attempts to "get the economy going".

sbsquarepants

Cabaal wrote: »

Why would god do such a thing?

Well he also gives aids to babies, so he does have previous in the being a cúnt department.

endacl wrote: »

Mary burnt the dinner. There was a fight. Both Mary and god ran out to get some 'alone time'. They left the taps running.

Jeez. I happens. Give them a break FFS. It's the child I feel sorry for...

He'll be fine, he can walk over the floods no problem!:D

ahnowbrowncow

God works in mysterious ways, who are we to question his actions?

Prodigious

Your cynicism is pathetic.

endacl

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

God works in mysterious ways, who are we to question his actions?

Absolutely. Questions imply answers. And that's when sh1t just falls apart...

kylith

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

God works in mysterious ways, who are we to question his actions?

Well there's your problem right there; a lack of accountability.

ahnowbrowncow

kylith wrote: »

Well there's your problem right there; a lack of accountability.

Quit focusing on the problem, find a solution. The solution, for me, is to trust in his greatness, his actions have consequences that us mortals have no way of knowing or understanding.

Sarky

The last pope must have foreseen this, and the weaselling out of paying victims of abuse was so they could spend the money on repairing...

No, I can't do it either. Watch the sheep clamour to fling money at a location designed to fleece them.

magicbastarder

how do we know that the cave was not going to collapse on everyone inside, so by creating flooding, god was preventing greater misery? eh?

magicbastarder

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

God works in mysterious ways, who are we to question his actions?

so you're saying it *was* deliberate?

ahnowbrowncow

magicbastarder wrote: »

so you're saying it *was* deliberate?

Everything that happens in this world is Gods will and to question it is futile. We will simply never understand his reasoning but we must trust that in the end it will have been for our good.

kylith

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Quit focusing on the problem, find a solution. The solution, for me, is to trust in his greatness, his actions have consequences that us mortals have no way of knowing or understanding.

I find that when the problem is lack of accountability the solution is to march right up to whoever's in charge and ask them what the flipping flippedy flip they think they're playing at and that if they have some over-arching plan to share the details with the rest of us, thank you very much. Not to pretend that shoddy workmanship is what you wanted all along.

Some people prefer to sit meekly in darkness, I suppose.

If someone keeps beating me and telling me it's for my own good, I don't think "well I dont understand you but you're more powerful than I am so I must just accept it's for my own good and keep taking beatings for no reason"

looksee

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Quit focusing on the problem, find a solution. The solution, for me, is to trust in his greatness, his actions have consequences that us mortals have no way of knowing or understanding.

Well there you are, he doesn't approve of shrines.

ahnowbrowncow

bluewolf wrote: »

If someone keeps beating me and telling me it's for my own good, I don't think "well I dont understand you but you're more powerful than I am so I must just accept it's for my own good and keep taking beatings for no reason"

It might not benefit you at that moment but later on in life you may look back and think I have grown immensely as a person because of that incident. And you will realise it was wrong of you to question God's will or judgement without knowing it's future implications.

Dades

looksee wrote: »

Well there you are, he doesn't approve of shrines.

Ahh. That explains why he hasn't actually been healing anyone at any of them. Ever.

ahnowbrowncow

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

It might not benefit you at that moment but later on in life you may look back and think I have grown immensely as a person because of that incident. And you will realise it was wrong of you to question God's will or judgement without knowing it's future implications.

Or it was random chance and I used it to grow as a person all by myself.

What bizarre twisted logic you use

magicbastarder

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Everything that happens in this world is Gods will

so if i have a hand shandy while watching reruns of 'countdown' where carol vorderman was wearing a particularly revealing dress, it's god's hand guiding me, so to speak?

kylith

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

It might not benefit you at that moment but later on in life you may look back and think I have grown immensely as a person because of that incident. And you will realise it was wrong of you to question God's will or judgement without knowing it's future implications.

So someone beating you is for your own good and you should just put up with it?

Tell me, were you beaten as a child? Because that's a very queer attitude to take. It sounds like Stockholm syndrome or Battered Wife syndrome to me...

Dades

magicbastarder wrote: »

so if i have a hand shandy while watching reruns of 'countdown' where carol vorderman was wearing a particularly revealing dress, it's god's hand guiding me, so to speak?

I'd say a nine-letter word in the allotted time would be more convincing evidence.

mikom

"More water".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vlOhj4eTpA

magicbastarder

Dades wrote: »

I'd say a nine-letter word in the allotted time would be more convincing evidence.

god bless the internet.

ahnowbrowncow

magicbastarder wrote: »

so if i have a hand shandy while watching reruns of 'countdown' where carol vorderman was wearing a particularly revealing dress, it's god's hand guiding me, so to speak?

I do not understand your meaning?

kylith wrote: »

So someone beating you is for your own good and you should just put up with it?

Tell me, were you beaten as a child? Because that's a very queer attitude to take.

Yes I was beaten as a child but the person who was responsible, God rest their soul, was correct in saying that they were doing it for my own good and now I can look back and say they were correct. I have grown and learnt many a lesson because of them.

seamus

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

It might not benefit you at that moment but later on in life you may look back and think I have grown immensely as a person because of that incident. And you will realise it was wrong of you to question God's will or judgement without knowing it's future implications.

kylith

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Yes I was beaten as a child but the person who was responsible, God rest their soul, was correct in saying that they were doing it for my own good and now I can look back and say they were correct. I have grown and learnt many a lesson because of them.

I am very sorry that you were beaten, and very sorry that you have yet to understand that that was abusive behaviour. It is never acceptable to strike a child.

endacl

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Everything that happens in this world is Gods will and to question it is futile. We will simply never understand his reasoning but we must trust that in the end it will have been for our good.

I really don't know where to start....

Don't you really mean 'asking questions may lead to answers that will rattle the foundations of my faith based view of everything?'

Your faith based view of everything is built on sand, and the tide is coming in. I suppose the discussion of a flood is rather apt in this instance...

sbsquarepants

magicbastarder wrote: »

so if i have a hand shandy while watching reruns of 'countdown' where carol vorderman was wearing a particularly revealing dress, it's god's hand guiding me, so to speak?

Now, i'm not judging you (only god can do that apparently!) and i have "entertained" myself to some strange accompaniments. But re-runs of countdown? Really? That's just plain wrong.....i mean, the new girl is even hotter than Carol!:D

Patser

magicbastarder wrote: »

how do we know that the cave was not going to collapse on everyone inside, so by creating flooding, god was preventing greater misery? eh?

We'll know when the cave is emptied of water and it doesn't collapse. Simple test of your theory there.

endacl

Patser wrote: »

We'll know when the cave is emptied of water and it doesn't collapse. Simple test of your theory there.

Hypothesise - Test - Evaluate results?

Scientific method. Good stuff.

sbsquarepants

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

I do not understand your meaning?



Yes I was beaten as a child but the person who was responsible, God rest their soul, was correct in saying that they were doing it for my own good and now I can look back and say they were correct. I have grown and learnt many a lesson because of them.

Sorry brown cow, but that's all kinds of fúcked up! Your world view is very much askew i think.

magicbastarder

i suspect ahnow is having a bit of fun.

ahnowbrowncow

magicbastarder wrote: »

i suspect ahnow is having a bit of fun.

You'd be right, slow day. Just trying to see the world from a different point of view. Us atheists can be quite condescending at times.

sbsquarepants

magicbastarder wrote: »

i suspect ahnow is having a bit of fun.

It's just so damn hard to tell the difference sometimes!

magicbastarder

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Now, i'm not judging you (only god can do that apparently!) and i have "entertained" myself to some strange accompaniments. But re-runs of countdown? Really? That's just plain wrong.....i mean, the new girl is even hotter than Carol!:D

i grew up in the 80s. there wasn't much else available.

sbsquarepants

magicbastarder wrote: »

i grew up in the 80s. there wasn't much else available.

Same. But there was always a family album catalogue about for emergencies!:D

kylith

Darn it! Poed again!

leddpipe

endacl

kylith wrote: »

Darn it! Poed again!

+1

Ah, well. We are open to changes of mind and (occasional) humility over here...

endacl

leddpipe wrote: »

Who wants this one...?

Insect Overlord

leddpipe wrote: »

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w200/stem01/atheism1.jpg

Is the typo in that caption intentional? :pac:

endacl

endacl wrote: »

Who wants this one...?

Not with that duckface

leddpipe

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Is the typo in that caption intentional? :pac:

not OC, but dammit you guys are good!

shruikan2553

Bad stuff = **** happens
Good stuff = god's work

So in this case the flooding was just nature being nature and when they get it repaired it will be thanks to god. Also it is thanks to god that people werent killed because **** doctors, engineers and builders etc, god did it all.

Brian Shanahan

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Everything that happens in this world is Gods will and to question it is futile.

Yes questioning the "will" of your imaginary friend is futile. Because he has none, just a projection of your will.

Dades

Brian Shanahan wrote: »

Yes questioning the "will" of your imaginary friend is futile. Because he has none, just a projection of your will.

Welcome to one hour ago.

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

magicbastarder wrote: »

i suspect ahnow is having a bit of fun.

You'd be right, slow day. Just trying to see the world from a different point of view. Us atheists can be quite condescending at times.

Got me goooooooooood

Cabaal

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Bad stuff = **** happens
Good stuff = god's work

So in this case the flooding was just nature being nature and when they get it repaired it will be thanks to god. Also it is thanks to god that people werent killed because **** doctors, engineers and builders etc, god did it all.

ah now, nature isn't being nature. Nature is god
So I guess you mean the flood is just god being god?

You can't claim there's a god and then claim nature can do its own thing without god controlling stuff,

Brian Shanahan

Dades wrote: »

Welcome to one hour ago.

I'm always late to the party. I operate on Irish time.

Sorry, ahnowbrowncow, I was especially dim and unwitting today.