Filter porn

IM0

or you could just parent your kids properly. kids dont need mobiles or anything with the net on it either. or money [well anymore than a days worth so whatever that is to you] dont ban porn just educate parents they are the problem

JohnMarston

Perspectives wrote: »

In order to avoid this, I believe all porn should be filtered from the internet, with the option for an adult to 'opt in' if they wish to view porn. This protects our young people and at the same time gives adults a choice, whether to view it or not. I'd like to see this initiative spread across the entire EU.

About halfway through the vid

LETHAL LADY

kunst nugget wrote: »

You're right, sex isn't a sin and it's great that in the school you were in you received sex education at 11 - something that everyone in this country should have but in the main won't because of the Catholic ethos of most schools in this country.

If there was to be an opt in or out system put in place in this country I'd want it brought in with mandatory sexual education in all schools.

I went to a catholic school and was taught sex ed. in 6th class, granted it was by a 60 something year old nun.

The Clown Man

Perspectives wrote: »

Young teenagers are being exposed to this material and as adults it's our responsibility to look out for them.

No, as a PARENT it is YOUR responsibility to look after YOUR children.

You do not have any responsibility to look after anyone else's children. In fact, it's none of your ****ing business beyond your own four walls.

IM0

if they took all porn off the net there would only be one site left, and it woulod be called 'bring back the porn'

**Vai**

Hoop66 wrote: »

young men who think the thing to do when you reach climax is to pull out and come on your partner's face.

Its not???

Never heard of a face baby so I'll stick with it

Gbear

Hoop66 wrote: »

I'll *ahem* take a stab at it:

Unrealistic sexual expectations?
Normalisation of violence in sex?

Again, not being a ****ty parent is the solution.
People have managed to get their hands on porn for quite a while before the internet. This won't stop them.

I generally have a sneaking suspicion that this sort of idea is just moralising about porn masquerading as "won't somebody think of the children" bollocks.

If you actually want them to have realistic and healthy attitudes to sex it's down to the parent and the education system to fulfill that role. Whether it's in porn or a bunch of lads making **** up about sex they haven't had, the vacuum of information is going to be filled with something.

That's the problem you see in the US with abstinence only education. We're sexual creatures and trying to go against that is like shouting at the tide to stay out. It's much better (and less infantile) to engage in the discussion of sex and show porn for what it is - meaningless fantasy designed for a quick dose of pleasure - not instructional material.
If you give kids these tools - and pull your fingers out of your ears about the way reality works in the process - they'll generally be able to deal with this themselves.

Perspectives

The Clown Man wrote: »

No, as a PARENT it is YOUR responsibility to look after YOUR children.

You do not have any responsibility to look after anyone else's children. In fact, it's none of your ****ing business beyond your own four walls.

Has this strategy worked effectively thus far? If parents block access, which many do, how come so many still have access to porn at a very young age?
In an ideal world, that would work but it hasn't. That's why Iceland and now the UK are debating it.
Finally, in case you missed my point:


ADULTS STILL HAVE ACCESS!!!!!

**Vai**

Perspectives wrote: »

Trolling?

See post 20.

If you were serious about this topic, it wouldn't be on AH.

**Vai**

Well that was a ****ty 1000th post.

Genghiz Cohen

The effects of porn on young children?

Who the **** shows porn to young children?
Seriously!

Perspectives

**Vai** wrote: »

Well that was a ****ty 1000th post.

I've seen many posts on AH discussed in a serious manner. Have you? I think this overall discussion clearly show's i'm taking this seriously as are the other debaters.

kc90

Perspectives wrote: »

Ok you're definitely a troll. An obvious ploy to put me on the defensive while avoiding any real logical statements. Is that how you always debate a subject you know nothing about?

I am genuinely interested as to why you believe porn should be completely inaccessible to teenagers. While I am not in favour of promoting it to younger people, I don't see a huge issue here.

I do agree with the above posters suggestion of unrealistic expectations, it's not something I would have considered. Do you have nuggets of wisdom that support your view?

Are you a porn expert? I am not, but neither would I say I know nothing about the subject.

Reread your own posts before you accuse me of trolling again.

Perspectives

kc90 wrote: »

I am genuinely interested as to why you believe porn should be completely inaccessible to teenagers. While I am not in favour of promoting it to younger people, I don't see a huge issue here.

I do agree with the above posters suggestion of unrealistic expectations, it's not something I would have considered. Do you have nuggets of wisdom that support your view?

Are you a porn expert? I am not, but neither would I say I know nothing about the subject.

Reread your own posts before you accuse me of trolling again.

Absolutely, thanks for this response.

Enjoy
http://yourbrainonporn.com/adolescent-brain-meets-highspeed-internet-porn

bodice ripper

Oh, the Internet isn't safe for kids. Nor is the motorway. Keep a fecking eye on them, they are your poxy kids.

who the fug

Perspectives wrote: »

I believe it is only a matter of time before this is implemented. It's already been discussed in the UK. Once the ball gets rolling, it'll be EU wide.

All liberties are protected, adults will still have access. The reason they are talking about this is former methods to protect kids from seeing porn have failed.

mummy and daddy will sleep better knowing their darling child has no easy access to porn, because the state has solved the problem


Cloud ****ing LALA land

kunst nugget

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

I went to a catholic school and was taught sex ed. in 6th class, granted it was by a 60 something year old nun.

They only discussion we had pertaining to sex in school was biology in 5th year which frankly is bullsh¡t. Every child needs to have proper sex education. This isn't to abdicate the responsibility of parents - it's paramount that parents give frank, open and age appropriate discussions about these issues throughout their development - but schools would give children the platform to find out through discussions with peers and teachers what is acceptable and how the reality of sex differs from what is presented in pornography.

Again, an opt in or out system for your own devices or wifi would be another handy tool for a parent to have to help them in curtailing access to hardcore pornography.

wes

Perspectives wrote: »

Has this strategy worked effectively thus far?

Its up to parents to you know parent. Trying to sub-contract that out to ISPs is pointless. Also, any block implemented locally or via ISP, can probably be circumvented pretty easily.

Perspectives wrote: »

If parents block access, which many do, how come so many still have access to porn at a very young age?

The blocks aren't hard to get around really. Use a free proxy or the like, and they will get access. So again, the block is largely pointless.

Perspectives wrote: »

In an ideal world, that would work but it hasn't. That's why Iceland and now the UK are debating it.

If such a system were to exist, then it should be an opt-in system. Also, who should pay for the implementation of such a system? The ISP will have to pay, and will probably pass the cost onto the customer, and it will be a system, that will be easily circumvented, resulting in a pointless waste of time, and money.

I see no reason why I should have to pay, because some parents aren't bothered enough to monitor there children's Internet usage.

Perspectives wrote: »

ADULTS STILL HAVE ACCESS!!!!!

Why should adults have to ask for access? Also, there are potential privacy concerts, as you now have a huge database of people, with information that could be used to embarrass them, and as we have seen with the recent prism revelations (not to mention previous ones), the government will have ready access to this, and if some dodgy sort comes to power in the future, this information could be use against people.

GreeBo

Perspectives wrote: »

No biko but I like the article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/26/iceland-crackdown-internet-porn

However, the difference here is the adults can contact their internet provider and ask to be opted into access of porn. Young teenagers are being exposed to this material and as adults it's our responsibility to look out for them.

I dont think they are being exposed...I'd be pretty certain that they are going searching for it!
We had porn 20 years ago when I was a teenager, internet or not.

Dravokivich

Perspectives wrote: »

Google 'brain on porn' to educate yourself. I personally don't want kids seeing porn of any kind. And hardcore/ violent porn is now widespread on the net. That's not healthy sexual development education for young teenagers now is it?

It's mumbo jumbo. There was a thread in tGC that trashed the idea of it.

IM0

Perspectives wrote: »

Absolutely, thanks for this response.

Enjoy
http://yourbrainonporn.com/adolescent-brain-meets-highspeed-internet-porn

in fairness the same can be said about a healthy sex life, porn like alcohol CAN be damaging, but that says more about the person than it does about the product. back to the convent with you

The Clown Man

Perspectives wrote: »

Has this strategy worked effectively thus far? If parents block access, which many do, how come so many still have access to porn at a very young age?
In an ideal world, that would work but it hasn't. That's why Iceland and now the UK are debating it.
Finally, in case you missed my point:


ADULTS STILL HAVE ACCESS!!!!!

Again, it's none of your business. Protect your own children so they can have a functioning sexual relationship as you define it.

Personally, I doubt people are going to stop having sex any time soon and I damn sure think that the way we (as a nation) have been conditioned to see sex by our Catholic former overlords is totally, totally wrong.

I won't insist that you think the same, however. I don't care what you do. You can raise your children however you see fit, but don't presume that you can tell everyone else that you know best.

Dravokivich

IM0 wrote: »

in fairness the same can be said about a healthy sex life

Or anything that excites someone really... If someone was really into music, would we have "yourbrainonmusic.coms?"

nozzferrahhtoo

Perspectives wrote: »

Enjoy

On the assumption you are not trolling... which is not an assumption I share based on your posts so far but I will run with it for a moment..... then I do not think linking what is essentially a blog site is going to convince anyone of anything.

Especially as you have not made any specific claims rather linked to a blog which makes a host of them.

Perhaps a better approach would be to make a specific claim and back it up to links to actual peer reviewed science.

Perspectives

wes wrote: »

Its up to parents to you know parent. Trying to sub-contract that out to ISPs is pointless. Also, any block implemented locally or via ISP, can probably be circumvented pretty easily.



The blocks aren't hard to get around really. Use a free proxy or the like, and they will get access. So again, the block is largely pointless.



If such a system were to exist, then it should be an opt-in system. Also, who should pay for the implementation of such a system? The ISP will have to pay, and will probably pass the cost onto the customer, and it will be a system, that will be easily circumvented, resulting in a pointless waste of time, and money.

I see no reason why I should have to pay, because some parents aren't bothered enough to monitor there children's Internet usage.



Why should adults have to ask for access? Also, there are potential privacy concerts, as you now have a huge database of people, with information that could be used to embarrass them, and as we have seen with the recent prism revelations (not to mention previous ones), the government will have ready access to this, and if some dodgy sort comes to power in the future, this information could be use against people.

Surely if we can send a man to the moon, we must be able to tackle porn on the Internet. This will be an EU wide initiative in the coming years. Lots of resources at hand, something will be developed.
I agree, privacy must be protected of individuals opting in.

the_syco

Perspectives wrote: »

I hope we all agree this can't continue.

What? Catholic guilt isn't working any more? Tough titty. Sounds like you just want a list of the pervs so that you can lock them up, and/or send propaganda from some random church to "cleanse" them or some such?

IM0

Dravokivich wrote: »

Or anything that excites someone really... If someone was really into music, would we have "yourbrainonmusic.coms?"

yeah. moderation is the key

Hoop66

Gbear wrote: »

...
People have managed to get their hands on porn for quite a while before the internet. This won't stop them...

Can I just make clear, I'm not arguing for the introduction of internet controls. I'm much more in favour of responsible parenting, and proper sex-education.

That said, yes, people have always managed to get their hands on porn, but it is only really since the advent of the internet that such hardcore porn has been so readily available.

kc90

Perspectives wrote: »

Absolutely, thanks for this response.

Enjoy
http://yourbrainonporn.com/adolescent-brain-meets-highspeed-internet-porn

There's a lot there, I'll have a proper look later. Although, it appears to be mostly opinion linked to unrelated articles.

wes

Perspectives wrote: »

Surely if we can send a man to the moon, we must be able to tackle porn on the Internet.

Sending a man to the moon was a herculean effort, costing a lot of money. Again, I see no reason why I or anyone else should have to pay for this. Parent should do there job and parent.

Also, to completely block access would need draconian measures, that would obliterate Internet freedom, and quite frankly its not worth losing such freedom, due to lazy parents.

Perspectives wrote: »

This will be an EU wide initiative in the coming years. Lots of resources at hand, something will be developed.

A nasty draconian measures that will destroy Internet freedom. The only way I see this working is complete ban on proxies, VPNs etc. Look, the only way to completely protect children from such material is either good parenting, or banning it all outright.

Also, again why should we spend all this money on this? Why can't parent do there jobs? I see no compelling reason for all this money to be wasted.

Perspectives wrote: »

I agree, privacy must be protected of individuals opting in.

It won't be, and we have seen that happen already. If people want this, then it should have to imho ask for it, and then pay for the service to the ISP, or buy there own software themselves, or find a open source blocker for free. No need for government involvement.