Gaming PC Build

MyNameIsBoxxy

Ok so hi, my friend asked me to help him choose a build and BloodBath helped me make my build on these forums so I'm hoping someone will help mah friend Ronan to make a gaming pc.

1. What is your budget? [€1250]

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming] (If gaming include which games: [Crysis 3, BF4, ArmA III, BF3 etc)

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [Yes]

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer?
[No, but he's getting this keyboard and it's price of €59.98 is to be included in the budget http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00C67C79C/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1369985253&sr=1-2&keywords=coolermaster+cm+mechanical+keyboard]

5. Do you need a monitor? [Yes]

5a. If yes, what size do you need.
[He's getting this http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BSOT2LA/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and its price of €155.16 is to be included in the budget]

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1920x1080/1440x900/etc.] [NaN]

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [Keyboard/Mouse/Wireless Card/Card Reader/Speakers/etc.] He needs them all but the card reader

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [If it's safe]

8. How can you pay? [Credit Card/Bank Transfer]

9. When are you purchasing? [Near the end of Summer]

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? [Cork]

Also he's getting this kettle lead for the PSU:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0011YI5II/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's worth like €2.50

marco_polo

Nice choices on the monitor and keyboard so were're saying about €1050 for the box, speakers windows, and mouse then?

MyNameIsBoxxy

I'd say so dear sir

marco_polo

How about something like this?

Item|Price
MS Windows 8 64bit (SB-Version) Englisch|€84.89
Logitech G400 Gaming Mouse|€33.31
Wavemaster MX-3+|€39.99
Cooltek Antiphon Black, ohne Netzteil|€63.00
be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 500W|€53.80
Gigabyte GA-970-UD3, AMD 970, AM3+, ATX|€78.65
8GB-Kit Corsair XMS3 PC3-12800U CL9|€60.14
AMD FX-8320 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+|€142.00
Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A (BW)|€39.60
Club 3D Radeon HD 7950 royalKing, 3GB GDDR5, AMD Radeon HD 7950, PCI- Express|€276.09
Samsung SSD 840 120GB SATA 6Gb/s|€85.52
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€56.82
ASUS PCE-N10|€14.90
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€1047.70

Ronan Ferry

Hi, I'm his friend. I looked at your build and it's quiet nice, the one thing I would probably change is the Operating System. I'm not a big fan of Windows 8. I'm not sure yet. Will the video card handle games like Crysis 3 alright? Medium - High graphics?

marco_polo

Ronan Ferry wrote: »

Hi, I'm his friend. I looked at your build and it's quiet nice, the one thing I would probably change is the Operating System. I'm not a big fan of Windows 8. I'm not sure yet. Will the video card handle games like Crysis 3 alright? Medium - High graphics?

Hi Ronan, it should handle any of the latest games well at close enough to maximum details (would have to turn down MSAA but very little else), I have played the latest and greatest like Crysis 3, Metro Last light, Far Cry 3 at quite high quality settings on a humble HD 7850, at the same resolution as the monitor you are getting, so a HD7950 will have no trouble with them.

If you prefer Windows 7 then just pop this into the basket instead

MyNameIsBoxxy

Shouldn't he swap the HD 7950 for a HD 7870 XT Boost and the AMD for an i5 3570K? The Sapphire HD 7870 XT Boost overclocked performs a few FPS behind the 7970 and outperforms a stock 7950 in all games but BF3?

Ronan Ferry

I watched a few videos on Youtube, and you can OC the Club 3D 7950 to get about the same performance as a stock GTX 680. So I'm guessing it's a good enough card.

marco_polo

MyNameIsBoxxy wrote: »

Shouldn't he swap the HD 7950 for a HD 7870 XT Boost and the AMD for an i5 3570K? The Sapphire HD 7870 XT Boost overclocked performs a few FPS behind the 7970 and outperforms a stock 7950 in all games but BF3?

It is a valid option but unless you play alot of CPU intensive games ie starcraft 2, RTS etc then I would spend the extra cash on the GPU rather than the CPU, in the vast most games you will be limited by the graphics card. The Club 3D is a good overclocker as well and clock for clock you are looking at a 15%-20% difference between a HD7870Xt and HD7950

MyNameIsBoxxy

I'd go for the i5 3570K and the HD 7870 XT Boost because you'll get a lot better performance in games like ARMA (like 20+ FPS) and around 10 FPS less in games like Crysis but you'll still get 35 FPS minimum-70 FPS maximum in games like Crysis.
Battlefield 4 will definitely be more CPU intense than GPU intense too.

I'd go for the HD 7870 XT Boost instead (and I did) and get the i5 3570K because either you get like 20% improvement in games such as ARMA or 15% improvement in games such as Crysis. 20% is better than 15% to me anyway.
One option is a better GPU and the other option is a much better CPU.
Either way, both are powerful gaming rigs no matter what.

MyNameIsBoxxy

Plus my choice's GPU and CPU are a lot better for overclocking

marco_polo

MyNameIsBoxxy wrote: »

Plus my choice's GPU and CPU are a lot better for overclocking

The RK its a top overclocking HD7950. But do whatever you want, if you don't want opinions then next time don't make a thread.

MyNameIsBoxxy

I only knew what CPU and GPU and monitor and keyboard he should get and I wasn't too sure if the Sapphire was still as cheap as it is now so I made the thread because I had no clue what other parts he'd need and because he asked me to make the thread :P

Ronan Ferry

Ignore my friend. I'm fine with anything that can run any game from Medium - Ultra settings with decent FPS. I need all the help I can get. Also, the case you suggested is nice, but could you suggest maybe another one? I need a High air flow one because if I got that build I would probably OC the video card. Another one with the same price? Maybe even with lights ?

Ronan Ferry

Oh, and, one other thing, is this graphics card worth the extra money or no? http://www.hardwareversand.de/3072+MB/69284/EVGA+GeForce+GTX+660+Ti+FTW%2C+3072MB+DDR5%2C+PCI-Express.article

beno619

Ronan Ferry wrote: »

Oh, and, one other thing, is this graphics card worth the extra money or no? http://www.hardwareversand.de/3072+MB/69284/EVGA+GeForce+GTX+660+Ti+FTW%2C+3072MB+DDR5%2C+PCI-Express.article

If your planning to overclock a 7950 would run rings around a 660ti and it comes with free games.

Ronan Ferry

beno619 wrote: »

If your planning to overclock a 7950 would run rings around a 660ti and it comes with free games.

It comes with free games?

BloodBath

An intel build with everything except an after market cpu cooler included. That xeon is a hyper threaded ivy core similar to an i7 3770 just running 100mhz slower and without an igp. It can be overclocked to 4.1ghz. The case is suitable for overclocking. It comes with 3 stock fans (2 front intakes, 1 rear exhaust) with room to add 3 more (2 top, 1 bottom). It's available in white or black + silver as well.

Windows 8 can be configured to run like 7 or previous versions with classic shell.

There are games bundles on a lot of AMD cards. HWVS offer them too if you email them.


Item|Price
LG 24EA53VQ|€159.00
MS Windows 8 64bit (SB-Version) Englisch|€84.89
TP-Link TL-WN781N, 150Mbps, PCIe x1|€9.44
Sharkoon Drakonia Gaming Laser Mouse|€24.38
Sharkoon Fire Glider Gaming Mat|€6.99
Wavemaster MX-3+|€39.99
Intel Xeon E3-1230v2, boxed, LGA1155|€203.22
ASRock ZH77 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX|€69.18
8GB-Kit GeIL Enhance Corsa PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24 (DDR3-1333)|€54.11
Club 3D Radeon HD 7950 13Series, 3GB GDDR5, AMD Radeon HD 7950, PCI- Express|€267.63
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€56.82
Samsung SSD 840 120GB SATA 6Gb/s|€85.52
Cooltek Antiphon Black, ohne Netzteil|€63.00
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€46.47
LiteOn iHAS124-04 schwarz SATA|€16.37
CM Storm quickfire keyboard|€60.00
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€1266.00

Ronan Ferry

Thanks for the build, but isn't the keyboard laid out the German way? As well as the monitor?

BloodBath

Not sure about the monitor. Many here have ordered monitors from hwvs without problems.

The keyboard is linked to amazon.

Ronan Ferry

BloodBath wrote: »

Not sure about the monitor. Many here have ordered monitors from hwvs without problems.

The keyboard is linked to amazon.

Oh alright. Well anyway, some of the stuff you have linked is out of stock, but it could be different by the time I buy all the parts. Maybe even the price, higher or lower.

BloodBath

Yeah come back closer to ordering for an up to date build.

Ronan Ferry

I should be buying the build a few weeks or so before summer ends.

Tinie

BloodBath wrote: »

There are games bundles on a lot of AMD cards. HWVS offer them too if you email them.

I never got any game codes with my XFX 7790 card that I bought off HWVS a few weeks back, do you think if I emailed them, they will send me on a code?

BloodBath

Yes you need to email them if you want it.

Tinie

I emailed them in english, hopefully I get some game code back.

marco_polo

Ronan Ferry wrote: »

Ignore my friend. I'm fine with anything that can run any game from Medium - Ultra settings with decent FPS. I need all the help I can get. Also, the case you suggested is nice, but could you suggest maybe another one? I need a High air flow one because if I got that build I would probably OC the video card. Another one with the same price? Maybe even with lights ?

The Anthion is a nice case, but more geared towards noise reduction alright. around the same price could look at something like the Corsair Carbite 300R for about the same price, you can stuff up to 7 case fans in there if you so choose.

Gumbi

marco_polo wrote: »

The Anthion is a nice case, but more geared towards noise reduction alright. around the same price could look at something like the Corsair Carbite 300R for about the same price, you can stuff up to 7 case fans in there if you so choose.

What kind of fans would you recommend if one were to invest in that case? Would the stock fans be quiet enough?

marco_polo

Gumbi wrote: »

What kind of fans would you recommend if one were to invest in that case? Would the stock fans be quiet enough?

The stock fans are supposed to be very quite, although it only has two installed intake and exhaust.

Don't have this case but I'd be thinking a couple of super quiet 120/140mm ones for the top and side would the just the ticket (You'd need to check if sure it there are space restrictions on the side fan with a big tower cooler, I'm not sure).

Gumbi

marco_polo wrote: »

The stock fans are supposed to be very quite, although it only has two installed intake and exhaust.

Don't have this case but I'd be thinking a couple of super quiet 140mm one for the top and side would the just the ticket (You'd need to check if sure it there are space restrictions on the side fan with a big tower cooler, I'm not sure).

I have 2 PWM slots free on my mobo, I might have them for the side fans. They would help a lot with OCing my 7950.

And then a couple a nice, reasonably priced quiet fans (like 140 top etc).

Side fans should fit, the 2 side fans are low? I'll have to investigate, though!

marco_polo

Gumbi wrote: »

I have 2 PWM slots free on my mobo, I might have them for the side fans. They would help a lot with OCing my 7950.

And then a couple a nice, reasonably priced quiet fans (like 140 top etc).

Oh I you have the case already?, I haven't bought separate case fans for a while so not up to speed which specific models are the best at the moment if that what you were actually asking.