an post junk mail

crazygeryy

UDP wrote: »

No, an post offer spamming as a service too and charge for the privilege. Its advertised as such on tv. They really should allow people to opt out. OP did you contact an post to see if they allow you to opt out?

Edit: actually i see an post worked with the irish direct marketing association on creating the Irish Direct Marketing Association Mail Preference Service (http://www.idma.ie/index.php?id=26). So probably best to get your name on that list as i would imagine that an post cross reference against that list since they were involved in creating it.

i read in the paper last week that people who put their name on the list to have no publicity mail delivered to them, actually end up getting more of the stuff.
one thing i cant stand are the guys who are delivering the leaflets and come to a gate that is closed(not locked)and they just wedge it into the gate instead of putting it through the letterbox.****ers.
at least the posties put it in the letterbox.

rubadub

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

It's not actually. As long as you don't request no junk mail be left then An Post can deliver to your post box. You dumping items inside a post office is littering.

So are non-postal workers dumping stuff in my letterbox littering? What about dumping it in pizza places then? I had wondered about the legality of what they do. They are not sending leaflets via the postal system, they come to my house and dump in unwanted processed waste derived from trees. If I go to the pizza place with a massive bag of semi processed tree clippings & grass can I dump it and run, like they do? I can write something in marker on the bag like "rubadub -dumping services available, ring 666" it there must legally be some sort of business offerings on my litter.

dudara wrote: »

To be fair, An Post just deliver the mail. It is sent by the companies whom it is advertising. They are the people you should really complain to.

To be fair an post should really by contacting homeowners and asking if they want unsolicited mail. Many do not know that it is actually an post delivering this crap. It should be presumed you do NOT want it, its like they are preclicking a box for you.

This "just doing my job" does not wash with me. Jobs like chugging should not exist, they are taking advantage of legal loopholes which bypasses the usual begging laws, These companies are bypassing the littering laws (or maybe some are blatantly littering).

The only smart story I heard was a US guy who signed up to loads of junk mail places, and got free "fuel" for his home heating furnace every day.

enigmatical

It can cause a problem by signifying that you're away. big pile of mail built up in the hallway

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

rubadub wrote: »

So are non-postal workers dumping stuff in my letterbox littering?

To be fair an post should really by contacting homeowners and asking if they want unsolicited mail.

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If you have a no junk mail notice then the leaflet drops are classed as littering.

I agree that An Post should give customers an option.

Sully

Ask your local post office - worked for us!

For all other junk mail from private firms, those No Junk Mail stickers usually do the trick for 99%.

Poochie05

ScottSF wrote: »

I'm curious to find out... how much junk mail is typical? For example if you went away on holiday for 2 weeks, would your mailbox be full of junk mail? OP, how many pieces do you get in a week? I only get a few per week at most. Does it vary whether you live in a house or apartment or something else?

From personal experience in the U.S. the problem with junk mail is huge, but there is a way to send a letter to various consumer marketing organizations to remove your name which reduces it significantly. Junk mail marketers get a huge discount and are relentless. After living a few years at an address, my normal size mailbox would be full of junk mail after a couple of weeks. Even funnier during Christmas time when catalog companies like Pottery Barn send out their thick catalogs. Sometimes I would get two copies to make matters worse! Certainly not good for the environment.

I collected all my junk mail for a year and it weighed almost 4 kgs! That's 4 kilos of unwanted paper waste. Put up a no junk mail sign and so far this year have had no junk mail, so it has worked so far. This includes the junk mail delivered by the postman so he is respecting the sign...

rubadub

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

If you have a no junk mail notice then the leaflet drops are classed as littering.

Never saw a no junk mail sign in the local dominos, and I have several bags of garden waste out the back at the moment...

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

rubadub wrote: »

Never saw a no junk mail sign in the local dominos, and I have several bags of garden waste out the back at the moment...

Not sure what you are getting at there.. Under current legislation what I said is true. Garden waste dumped anywhere - signs or not - is dumping and illegal. Your point???

rubadub

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

Under current legislation what I said is true.

Have you a link to the actual laws, I would be interested in how its is worded.

My point was that they are fundamentally dumping processed garden waste in my house, there happen to be advertisement notices written on this waste. I was wondering if I similarly print a advertisement notice on my waste would it similarly qualify as a "flyer" under the current laws, and am I similarly exempt. I am always interested in reading laws, to see how they stop loopholes, or indeed if there are loopholes. e.g. is there a certain weight the processed trees must be under?

MOH

dudara wrote: »

To be fair, An Post just deliver the mail. It is sent by the companies whom it is advertising. They are the people you should really complain to.

I complained to UPC about their junk before, they told me to take it up with the post office.

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

If you have a no junk mail notice then the leaflet drops are classed as littering.

I'm sure I remember reading years ago that those "no junk mail" signs have no legal basis in Ireland. Can't find a source for that now though.
That IDMA register is only for addressed mail, not the unaddressed leaflet spam.