an post junk mail

mikehammer67

is there an official way of stopping it being delivered?
or do you have to stick a sign on the door?
thanks

wmpdd3

mikehammer67 wrote: »

is there an official way of stopping it being delivered?
or do you have to stick a sign on the door?
thanks

I can see how that would work for non addressed stuff.the post man just grabs some and adds it to your pile of post before he pots it in the letter box.how could he check a list every time.

Del2005

mikehammer67 wrote: »

is there an official way of stopping it being delivered?
or do you have to stick a sign on the door?
thanks

There was a thread about a year ago where a post person said they had to report any "No junk mail" signs back to base. Not sure if it makes any difference as I've one and the only junk mail I get is with my post, or more than likely no post only junk.

Condatis

Why do people get so upset about junk mail?

It is just one of the ways that people use to promote their business. If they continue to do it; it must be working for them – which is good for the economy.

An Post benefits, that also is a good thing.

Most junk mail is delivered by part-time or casual workers who earn a few euros by doing so. The material also brings business to printers. If you don't want the material chuck it into your green bin and your bin provider will re-cycle it.

Everybody wins really!

L1011

I've "addressed mail only" on mine and generally only get political and some pizza junk, not an post delivered ones except the extremely rare time I've had enough post to be rubber banded together.

sandin

Its just another form of advertising.

You can't ask newspapers not to sell you a paper taht has advertising.
You can't ask the council to remove bill boards from your route.

Just accept it and you never know, sometimes there's something you will like in amongst the leaflets - I got one recently giving free sausages from the local butcher. - Enjoyed them too!

Cabaal

Condatis wrote: »

Why do people get so upset about junk mail?

It is just one of the ways that people use to promote their business. If they continue to do it; it must be working for them – which is good for the economy.

An Post benefits, that also is a good thing.

Most junk mail is delivered by part-time or casual workers who earn a few euros by doing so. The material also brings business to printers. If you don't want the material chuck it into your green bin and your bin provider will re-cycle it.

Everybody wins really!

Not everybody
- Its extra waste in the environment
- If you get junk mail it costs YOU money to get rid of it

Not everyone gets their recycle bin collected for free.

By your logic we should put up with it because it gives people money, should we also put up with illegal signs on the side of public highways, illegally posted posters on poles etc.

Sure it gives people jobs after all.

L1011

sandin wrote: »

Its just another form of advertising.

You can't ask newspapers not to sell you a paper taht has advertising.
You can't ask the council to remove bill boards from your route.

Just accept it and you never know, sometimes there's something you will like in amongst the leaflets - I got one recently giving free sausages from the local butcher. - Enjoyed them too!

I don't get newspapers or billboards put up on my property without my consent.

Del2005

sandin wrote: »

Its just another form of advertising.

You can't ask newspapers not to sell you a paper taht has advertising.
You can't ask the council to remove bill boards from your route.

Just accept it and you never know, sometimes there's something you will like in amongst the leaflets - I got one recently giving free sausages from the local butcher. - Enjoyed them too!

I stopped buying papers a long time ago, too many ads and not enough news. I can choose to ignore a billboard. I use ad blockers on my browsers. Very rarely do I watch "live" TV, if something I want to watch is on live I'll surf the net for a while so I can rewind and skip the ads.

I don't like ads full stop. If I need something I'll research the prices myself and get the best value as most of the stuff on the flyers is junk they can't sell.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Condatis wrote: »

Why do people get so upset about junk mail?

It is just one of the ways that people use to promote their business. If they continue to do it; it must be working for them – which is good for the economy.

An Post benefits, that also is a good thing.

Most junk mail is delivered by part-time or casual workers who earn a few euros by doing so. The material also brings business to printers. If you don't want the material chuck it into your green bin and your bin provider will re-cycle it.

Everybody wins really!

For one, I have to pay by the lift for my recycling bin and that is where all junk mail goes immediately.

Being rural, the only junk mail is delivered by An Post.

It is a total waste of time and material.

I don't care who benefits as it's a pain in the rear for me.

On top of that it seems to be the same old stuff from the same suppliers every time!

mikehammer67

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

For one, I have to pay by the lift for my recycling bin and that is where all junk mail goes immediately.

Being rural, the only junk mail is delivered by An Post.

It is a total waste of time and material.

I don't care who benefits as it's a pain in the rear for me.

On top of that it seems to be the same old stuff from the same suppliers every time!

thats my problem
rural area -an post shoving hapes of stuff in the door

i prefer not to deal with the postmen directly
i prefer to do it the proper way

ScottSF

I'm curious to find out... how much junk mail is typical? For example if you went away on holiday for 2 weeks, would your mailbox be full of junk mail? OP, how many pieces do you get in a week? I only get a few per week at most. Does it vary whether you live in a house or apartment or something else?

From personal experience in the U.S. the problem with junk mail is huge, but there is a way to send a letter to various consumer marketing organizations to remove your name which reduces it significantly. Junk mail marketers get a huge discount and are relentless. After living a few years at an address, my normal size mailbox would be full of junk mail after a couple of weeks. Even funnier during Christmas time when catalog companies like Pottery Barn send out their thick catalogs. Sometimes I would get two copies to make matters worse! Certainly not good for the environment.

irishgeo

comreg have this on their website.

Can I stop unsolicited mail?

We do not regulate this area, but there are a number of steps you can take to stop unsolicited mail, such as:

Put a sticker on your letter box that states you don’t want unaddressed mail (or 'junk mail') to be delivered to you. For example, write 'no unaddressed mail please'.
Register with the Mail Preference Service (MPS). If you do not want to receive addressed mail from companies you have not done business with before, you can add your name to the MPS list. Companies who are members of the Irish Direct Marketing Association (IDMA) have agreed not to include people on the MPS list in any of their mailings. This is part of the IDMA Code of Practice but it is not a legal obligation and the IDMA Code of Practice only applies to its members. You may still receive addressed mail from companies that are not IDMA members. Contact the IDMA for more information: Phone: (01) 661 0470 Web: www.idma.ie
'Return to sender' – if you receive addressed mail from someone you have done business with before. Write on the letter that you do not want to receive any unsolicited mail from them in the future, put it back in its envelope and write clearly on the front 'return to sender'.
If you still have problems stopping unsolicited mail you can also contact:
The Office of the Data Protection Commissioner
Phone: 1890 252 231
Web: www.dataprotection.ie

shanec1928

ScottSF wrote: »

I'm curious to find out... how much junk mail is typical? For example if you went away on holiday for 2 weeks, would your mailbox be full of junk mail? OP, how many pieces do you get in a week? I only get a few per week at most. Does it vary whether you live in a house or apartment or something else?

From personal experience in the U.S. the problem with junk mail is huge, but there is a way to send a letter to various consumer marketing organizations to remove your name which reduces it significantly. Junk mail marketers get a huge discount and are relentless. After living a few years at an address, my normal size mailbox would be full of junk mail after a couple of weeks. Even funnier during Christmas time when catalog companies like Pottery Barn send out their thick catalogs. Sometimes I would get two copies to make matters worse! Certainly not good for the environment.

at least one piece of rubbish each day. the most we ever got in one day was 8 i think.

Cabaal

Mine vary's,

Sometimes none, other days I could get nothing but junk mail from an post. I'm talking 4-5 bits of it at a time.

RichT

mikehammer67 wrote: »

thats my problem
rural area -an post shoving hapes of stuff in the door

i prefer not to deal with the postmen directly
i prefer to do it the proper way

The easiest way to stop getting junk mail delivered (via An Post) is to tell your Postie that you don't want it. if you prefer not to speak to the Postie direct, for whatever reason, then you can ring your local Post Office, and they can tell them.

CreepingDeath

I've a "No junk mail" sign on my letterbox which reduces the junk mail significantly.

There's still the pizza leaflets delivered by illiterate immigrants who don't care and charity robbing leaflets delivered by crime gangs to rob second hand clothes from real charities... they won't care about a "no junk mail" sign.

Also religious and political leaflets don't consider themselves "junk".

But I've found that if you follow the money and complain there it helps.
If a new chinese takeaway has dropped a leaflet in your door, ring them up directly and complain that their leaflet distributors don't respect your signs.
Don't ring the likes of the "Leaflet Company" who drop the leaflets, ring the people who pay them.

mikehammer67

CreepingDeath wrote: »

I've a "No junk mail" sign on my letterbox which reduces the junk mail significantly.

There's still the pizza leaflets delivered by illiterate immigrants who don't care and charity robbing leaflets delivered by crime gangs to rob second hand clothes from real charities... they won't care about a "no junk mail" sign.

Also religious and political leaflets don't consider themselves "junk".

But I've found that if you follow the money and complain there it helps.
If a new chinese takeaway has dropped a leaflet in your door, ring them up directly and complain that their leaflet distributors don't respect your signs.
Don't ring the likes of the "Leaflet Company" who drop the leaflets, ring the people who pay them.

i wouldn't be into ringing individual businesses myself anyhow
that takin it too far like

kc90

mikehammer67 wrote: »

thats my problem
rural area -an post shoving hapes of stuff in the door

i prefer not to deal with the postmen directly
i prefer to do it the proper way

What's the proper way?

mikehammer67

kc90 wrote: »

What's the proper way?

that my question like.........

mikehammer67

i mean there should be an official way besides telling the postman not to do it

and the next postman etc...........

DieselPowered

How would you suggest I stop unsolicited letters asking me to sign up to their service from a well known satellite provider addressed to

The Occupier
1 xxx xxx
Xxx xxx
Xxx xxx

This is becoming a pain and even though I have "no junk mail" displayed, that has only stopped leaflets. They manage to get around it with their wording.


Thanks.

Del2005

mikehammer67 wrote: »

i mean there should be an official way besides telling the postman not to do it

and the next postman etc...........

There is no official way and since the biggest offender, for me with a "No Junk Mail" sign, are An Post I can't see any way of stopping it. All I get now are An Post and Alive!! all just get picked off the floor and thrown straight into the green bin.

I know in Switzerland you can put stickers on your letter box saying what level of junk mail you want from nothing to everything. We should have a similar system here.

oldon

Save the junk the post man leaves you. For a week or two. Next time you're passing a post offices open the door say heres your junk mail back. Dump it on the floor walk out. Leave them clean and bin it.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

oldon wrote: »

Save the junk the post man leaves you. For a week or two. Next time you're passing a post offices open the door say heres your junk mail back. Dump it on the floor walk out. Leave them clean and bin it.

This by the way is illegal as it constitutes littering.

Captain Chaos

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

This by the way is illegal as it constitutes littering.

It's the very same thing as getting junk mail through the door. They are littering your house. And then we have to pay to rid of it.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Captain Chaos wrote: »

It's the very same thing as getting junk mail through the door. They are littering your house. And then we have to pay to rid of it.

It's not actually. As long as you don't request no junk mail be left then An Post can deliver to your post box. You dumping items inside a post office is littering.

dudara

oldon wrote: »

Save the junk the post man leaves you. For a week or two. Next time you're passing a post offices open the door say heres your junk mail back. Dump it on the floor walk out. Leave them clean and bin it.

To be fair, An Post just deliver the mail. It is sent by the companies whom it is advertising. They are the people you should really complain to.

And, do you want to be seen as someone who just dumps litter on the floor of a public building?

oldon

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

This by the way is illegal as it constitutes littering.

Ok then put the post service junk mail in the next postbox you pass.

enigmatical

bad for the environment by it keeps An Post in business.


it's a case of putting up with junk mail or paying more for stamps and seeing post offices shut down.


simply place it straight into your recycling bin.

UDP

dudara wrote: »

To be fair, An Post just deliver the mail. It is sent by the companies whom it is advertising. They are the people you should really complain to.

No, an post offer spamming as a service too and charge for the privilege. Its advertised as such on tv. They really should allow people to opt out. OP did you contact an post to see if they allow you to opt out?

Edit: actually i see an post worked with the irish direct marketing association on creating the Irish Direct Marketing Association Mail Preference Service (http://www.idma.ie/index.php?id=26). So probably best to get your name on that list as i would imagine that an post cross reference against that list since they were involved in creating it.

crazygeryy

UDP wrote: »

No, an post offer spamming as a service too and charge for the privilege. Its advertised as such on tv. They really should allow people to opt out. OP did you contact an post to see if they allow you to opt out?

Edit: actually i see an post worked with the irish direct marketing association on creating the Irish Direct Marketing Association Mail Preference Service (http://www.idma.ie/index.php?id=26). So probably best to get your name on that list as i would imagine that an post cross reference against that list since they were involved in creating it.

i read in the paper last week that people who put their name on the list to have no publicity mail delivered to them, actually end up getting more of the stuff.
one thing i cant stand are the guys who are delivering the leaflets and come to a gate that is closed(not locked)and they just wedge it into the gate instead of putting it through the letterbox.****ers.
at least the posties put it in the letterbox.

rubadub

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

It's not actually. As long as you don't request no junk mail be left then An Post can deliver to your post box. You dumping items inside a post office is littering.

So are non-postal workers dumping stuff in my letterbox littering? What about dumping it in pizza places then? I had wondered about the legality of what they do. They are not sending leaflets via the postal system, they come to my house and dump in unwanted processed waste derived from trees. If I go to the pizza place with a massive bag of semi processed tree clippings & grass can I dump it and run, like they do? I can write something in marker on the bag like "rubadub -dumping services available, ring 666" it there must legally be some sort of business offerings on my litter.

dudara wrote: »

To be fair, An Post just deliver the mail. It is sent by the companies whom it is advertising. They are the people you should really complain to.

To be fair an post should really by contacting homeowners and asking if they want unsolicited mail. Many do not know that it is actually an post delivering this crap. It should be presumed you do NOT want it, its like they are preclicking a box for you.

This "just doing my job" does not wash with me. Jobs like chugging should not exist, they are taking advantage of legal loopholes which bypasses the usual begging laws, These companies are bypassing the littering laws (or maybe some are blatantly littering).

The only smart story I heard was a US guy who signed up to loads of junk mail places, and got free "fuel" for his home heating furnace every day.

enigmatical

It can cause a problem by signifying that you're away. big pile of mail built up in the hallway

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

rubadub wrote: »

So are non-postal workers dumping stuff in my letterbox littering?

To be fair an post should really by contacting homeowners and asking if they want unsolicited mail.

.

If you have a no junk mail notice then the leaflet drops are classed as littering.

I agree that An Post should give customers an option.

Sully

Ask your local post office - worked for us!

For all other junk mail from private firms, those No Junk Mail stickers usually do the trick for 99%.

Poochie05

ScottSF wrote: »

I'm curious to find out... how much junk mail is typical? For example if you went away on holiday for 2 weeks, would your mailbox be full of junk mail? OP, how many pieces do you get in a week? I only get a few per week at most. Does it vary whether you live in a house or apartment or something else?

From personal experience in the U.S. the problem with junk mail is huge, but there is a way to send a letter to various consumer marketing organizations to remove your name which reduces it significantly. Junk mail marketers get a huge discount and are relentless. After living a few years at an address, my normal size mailbox would be full of junk mail after a couple of weeks. Even funnier during Christmas time when catalog companies like Pottery Barn send out their thick catalogs. Sometimes I would get two copies to make matters worse! Certainly not good for the environment.

I collected all my junk mail for a year and it weighed almost 4 kgs! That's 4 kilos of unwanted paper waste. Put up a no junk mail sign and so far this year have had no junk mail, so it has worked so far. This includes the junk mail delivered by the postman so he is respecting the sign...

rubadub

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

If you have a no junk mail notice then the leaflet drops are classed as littering.

Never saw a no junk mail sign in the local dominos, and I have several bags of garden waste out the back at the moment...

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

rubadub wrote: »

Never saw a no junk mail sign in the local dominos, and I have several bags of garden waste out the back at the moment...

Not sure what you are getting at there.. Under current legislation what I said is true. Garden waste dumped anywhere - signs or not - is dumping and illegal. Your point???

rubadub

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

Under current legislation what I said is true.

Have you a link to the actual laws, I would be interested in how its is worded.

My point was that they are fundamentally dumping processed garden waste in my house, there happen to be advertisement notices written on this waste. I was wondering if I similarly print a advertisement notice on my waste would it similarly qualify as a "flyer" under the current laws, and am I similarly exempt. I am always interested in reading laws, to see how they stop loopholes, or indeed if there are loopholes. e.g. is there a certain weight the processed trees must be under?

MOH

dudara wrote: »

To be fair, An Post just deliver the mail. It is sent by the companies whom it is advertising. They are the people you should really complain to.

I complained to UPC about their junk before, they told me to take it up with the post office.

Emiliano Gentle Womanhood wrote: »

If you have a no junk mail notice then the leaflet drops are classed as littering.

I'm sure I remember reading years ago that those "no junk mail" signs have no legal basis in Ireland. Can't find a source for that now though.
That IDMA register is only for addressed mail, not the unaddressed leaflet spam.