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Cars that have a timing chain instead of a timing belt.

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  • 08-06-2013 11:28pm
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    BUBBLE WRAP
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    I'm looking for a list of all the cars (Make/Model) which use a timing chain instead of a timing belt. I had a good google, but nothing appeared worth talking about.

    The only one I know is a Yaris. :(

    Any help is very much appreciated, Thanks. :)


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    Ded_Zebra
    Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    What's the particular reason you want to know?


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    Technoprisoner
    Registered Users Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭Technoprisoner


    you could be here all night listing them


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    BUBBLE WRAP
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    Ded_Zebra wrote: »
    What's the particular reason you want to know?

    No real reason tbh, I was just thinking about timing chains today and I just was curious to know what other cars have a timing chain. :)


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    mickdw
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    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    I'm looking for a list of all the cars (Make/Model) which use a timing chain instead of a timing belt. I had a good google, but nothing appeared worth talking about.

    The only one I know is a Yaris. :(

    Any help is very much appreciated, Thanks. :)

    There are lots. Some are as reliable as intended while others need renewal at significant cost.


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    MuppetCheck
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    Almeras/BMW N47s being the most notable in recent years as failures.


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,446 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/chain-cam/


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    Mister Jingles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    All mk3 Mondeo's ? That I would have never assumed


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    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    That's perfect Colm exactly what I was looking for, thanks a million.

    Thanks to everyone else also.


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    amber69
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    MuppetCheck wrote: »
    Almeras/BMW N47s being the most notable in recent years as failures.

    Had a 04 almera changed it at 50 k and it went again at 84k


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    bmstuff
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭bmstuff


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/chain-cam/

    Who would have thought someone would ever come up with such list lol...


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    techdiver
    Registered Users Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Alfa Romeo Brera


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    166man
    Registered Users Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭166man


    JTS engined Alfa's would all be timing chain AFAIK.


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    riggerman
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭riggerman


    Toyota corolla 00 upwards have chain


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    Toyotafanboi
    Registered Users Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    all the vvti toyotas have a chain :)


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    MadMardegan
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    When should chains be changed?


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    Matt Simis
    Registered Users Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    MadMardegan wrote: »
    When should chains be changed?

    Chains typically dont get changed, they get the timing readjusted periodically as the chains stretch (over 100k miles). They might need the chain tensioner changed after 200k miles.


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    JohnBoy26
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    amber69 wrote: »
    Had a 04 almera changed it at 50 k and it went again at 84k
    The replacement chain must not of been correctly fitted or the oil wasn't chained frequently for it to go again after just 34k.


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    JohnBoy26
    Registered Users Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    I'm looking for a list of all the cars (Make/Model) which use a timing chain instead of a timing belt. I had a good google, but nothing appeared worth talking about.

    The only one I know is a Yaris. :(

    Any help is very much appreciated, Thanks. :)
    91-96 Nissan Sunny:p, great cars too so they were.:) Unlike the disastrous Almera from a decade later.


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    tossy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,590 ✭✭✭tossy


    Providing it's a reliable set up all cars should have chains,My Bora had a chain and it gives you a certain peace of mind.


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    Plug
    Registered Users Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Some cars a belt and a chain, others have a belt in oil.


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    booksale
    Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭booksale


    Opel Corsa uses chain as well. It's not listed on the list.


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    mondeoman2
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭mondeoman2


    booksale wrote: »
    Opel Corsa uses chain as well. It's not listed on the list.

    It listed under Vauxhall


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    dingding
    Registered Users Posts: 4,928 ✭✭✭dingding


    Lexus rx 400h is listed as having a chain but it has a belt.

    I think that list may not be totally reliability


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,446 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    dingding wrote: »

    I think that list may not be totally reliability

    Yep! For the purposes of this thread it'll do though!


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    mattser
    Registered Users Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭mattser


    Is the Merc E200K chain a bit dodgy ? I think someone told me it was.


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    jozi
    Registered Users Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭jozi


    BMW's M42 engine as fitted to the 1989 318iS has a chain, unlike the list stating all BMW's after 1993 - I guess some slipped under the radar.


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    ofcork
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    mattser wrote: »
    Is the Merc E200K chain a bit dodgy ? I think someone told me it was.

    Ive heard of them snapping before as low as 60k miles iirc.


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    Nforce
    Registered Users Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    Somewhat related to this thread...is there a list of modern non interference engines available?


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    bigroad
    Registered Users Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Opel 2.0 and 2.2 dti have chains that also includes saab 93/95 2.2 dti.


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    scamalert
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    had Toyota corolla 01 hatch 1.4 vvti best pulling engine for that size of motor,and never had issues over 160k miles on the clock,serviced once every year or two,just oil change basically, some car it has been :) but its pitty to see that toyotas went down hill as reading from topic where 1.6 yaris is drinking oil in liters,or most celicas burning it as well.So yes all vvti engines have chains,i think rotary engines have them as well not sure now.
    as for replacement good chain should last a life time,agree that it can loosen in time,but its rare events where chains snap or need to be replaced.just from my limited experience with toyotas,but reading about golfs with tfsi engines seems there are flaws in them engines and costly as well.


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