LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Sobanek

I'll have to be drunk and make a drunk purchase, this way I won't be able to be mad at myself

Oooh, father is interested and wants to even throw in some cash for the tax

Matt Simis

JohnxF wrote: »

Matt, do you know if those gearboxes were replaced at owner expense of if Audi contributed? It would be an expensive car to own if you had to budget for a new gearbox every so often.

I'd be with Unkel. If you can only count on the 2.8 FWD version, there's no point in having an A8.

Why would Audi contribute anything to a car over 10years old with nearly 200k miles on it!?
I just bought a used gearbox for EUR500 and paid EUR250 to have it fitted. The car wasnt disabled with it as is, just very harsh at shifting.

I wouldnt consider a FWD/2.8 A8 at all, I would totally consider a proper one (with a V8) that shifts ok and just do regular fluid changes. If it breaks, its not the end of the world as parts readily available, even for the S8 which has different ratios (ie technically not the same box). Also bear in mind the S8 is more powerful and is tuned to shift harsher anyway, so its a worst case example.

My one had a bunch of penny pincher's owning it for the last 4years, no servicing at all, barely any Antifreeze in the coolant for example.

Voodoomelon

Does anyone in Ireland/UK offer rebuilds of ZF brains like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyp9DHPKfHo

He paid only €500 for the full service, couldn't even perceive shifts after it was completed.

EDIT: Hmm, dunno if that's the right video, seems to be only the fluid change. There was one where the brain's valves/marbles were replaced.

Sobanek

What about the E65 735i?

I don't mind the looks as I actually got to quite like them. I'm a bigger fan of the facelift, but the pre-facelift isn't too bad either.

And then, for that kind of money, there's the Porsche Boxster

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Sobanek wrote: »

What about the E65 735i?

I don't mind the looks as I actually got to quite like them. I'm a bigger fan of the facelift, but the pre-facelift isn't too bad either.

And then, for that kind of money, there's the Porsche Boxster

There was only one problem with an e65 735i. And that is the 750i (or 760i)
I couldn't pay top tax for a 735i knowing that there was the same car for the same tax but in 750i or 760i guise available.

FWIW I love the e65s, especially when in full on pimpmobile/gangster mode!:cool:

Oh and don't get a boxster.

Sobanek

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-bmw-7-series-tax-02-14-nct-03-15/5915537

Bit above my 5k budget, but looks well specced, and it's the 745i

And why not the Boxster?

Truckermal

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Does anyone in Ireland/UK offer rebuilds of ZF brains like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyp9DHPKfHo

He paid only €500 for the full service, couldn't even perceive shifts after it was completed.

EDIT: Hmm, dunno if that's the right video, seems to be only the fluid change. There was one where the brain's valves/marbles were replaced.

Ya there is a crowd in Navan that do ZF gearbox overhauls.. Stealthyspeeder got one done somewhere a while back, ask him..

Moneymaker

Sobanek wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-bmw-7-series-tax-02-14-nct-03-15/5915537

Bit above my 5k budget, but looks well specced, and it's the 745i

And why not the Boxster?

Because you only buy a Boxster if you can't afford a 911 :pac:

delthedriver

Truckermal wrote: »

Ya there is a crowd in Navan that do ZF gearbox overhauls.. Stealthyspeeder got one done somewhere a while back, ask him..

There is also a Transmission Centre who recondition Auto boxes in Naas Road D12 area.

Marlow

And if you can't afford the 911, you probably can't afford to service the Boxster either.

/M

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Sobanek wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-bmw-7-series-tax-02-14-nct-03-15/5915537

Bit above my 5k budget, but looks well specced, and it's the 745i

And why not the Boxster?

He might take 5 at a push. Plus it has that 4.4 v8, the right engine to have (other than the v12 of course), so at least it is the right engine for the car.

The boxster is a flat six hairdresser's car for wanabes. People who want a porsche because "it's cool" or to look flash, but haven't the first clue about cars. Because if they did they would buy a 911.

Similar to people who buy a 2.1 FWD x-type to have "a jag"

Cienciano

Moneymaker wrote: »

Because you only buy a Boxster if you can't afford a 911 :pac:

That's my most hated car related line. It's so stupid it hurts! And I generally like JC

Voodoomelon

Truckermal wrote: »

Ya there is a crowd in Navan that do ZF gearbox overhauls.. Stealthyspeeder got one done somewhere a while back, ask him..

Fantastic, thanks!

jimgoose

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

He might take 5 at a push. Plus it has that 4.4 v8, the right engine to have (other than the v12 of course), so at least it is the right engine for the car.

The boxster is a flat six hairdresser's car for wanabes. People who want a porsche because "it's cool" or to look flash, but haven't the first clue about cars. Because if they did they would buy a 911.

Similar to people who buy a 2.1 FWD x-type to have "a jag"

The Boxter is a proper bit of kit, and makes more sense to a lot of people than various 911 models which are often bought by people who want a bowel-evacuatingly expensive Porsche "because it's cool!". Also, while I am aware that some Jag purists are offended by the X-Type's "dieselness", "smallness", "front-wheel-drive-ness", etc. it's a fine car by any standard.

Moneymaker

Cienciano wrote: »

That's my most hated car related line. It's so stupid it hurts! And I generally like JC

Cliche alright but it's true.

I wouldn't be buying a Boxter if I could afford a Porsche, that's for sure.

I don't like the styling either, doesn't really "wow" me.

Cienciano

Moneymaker wrote: »

Cliche alright but it's true.

I wouldn't be buying a Boxter if I could afford a Porsche, that's for sure.

I don't like the styling either, doesn't really "wow" me.

It makes sense, but it applies to pretty much every car going, but for some reason it's only used when talking about the Boxter. There's always a better version.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

jimgoose wrote: »

The Boxter is a proper bit of kit, and makes more sense to a lot of people than various 911 models which are often bought by people who want a bowel-evacuatingly expensive Porsche "because it's cool!". Also, while I am aware that some Jag purists are offended by the X-Type's "dieselness", "smallness", "front-wheel-drive-ness", etc. it's a fine car by any standard.

The boxster is not a fast car like a Porsche should be. The 911 is not (for the most part) bought by "keep up with the jones's" people, as the boxster does the same job but for cheaper. It (boxster) looks like a porsche but does not drive like one. I should know, I was considering one a while back and took a test drive in a 2.7.

The X Type has nothing that a Jag should have. Grace? No, Space? No, Pace? no (except the 2.5 or 3.0 models perhaps)

And I am sorry, but a 2.1 FWD mondeo in drag is not a Jaguar. A Draguar perhaps :P

h3000

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

The boxster is not a fast car like a Porsche should be. The 911 is not (for the most part) bought by "keep up with the jones's" people, as the boxster does the same job but for cheaper. It (boxster) looks like a porsche but does not drive like one. I should know, I was considering one a while back and took a test drive in a 2.7.

The Boxster is one of the best drivers car you can buy and if you buy the S it's far from slow. They have an incredibly balanced chassis. I really think the "Boxster is not a real Porsche" line is very silly.

daRobot

Sobanek wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a8-3-7-v8-quattro/5939774

Has been here before, but now it's under budget.

Considering this myself, but just can't convince myself to pay 1800 to the Motor Tax Office

Personally, I'd hold out for a 4.2 A8 (330bhp), like this:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a8/5757883

I would be very surprised if he didn't take 4k.

The A8 (D3 Model) is a lot more reliable than the pre facelift 7 series (or the facelift for that matter), and the interior is a great place to be (especially at night)

Cleveland Hot Pocket

h3000 wrote: »

The Boxster is one of the best drivers car you can buy and if you buy the S it's far from slow. They have an incredibly balanced chassis. I really think the "Boxster is not a real Porsche" line is very silly.

As I mentioned I did not drive the S, I drove the 2.7.
It is to Porsches what the X type is to Jags or what a 518d is to bmws. An entry level.

Padraig Mor

Sobanek wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-bmw-7-series-tax-02-14-nct-03-15/5915537

Bit above my 5k budget, but looks well specced, and it's the 745i

And why not the Boxster?

Spec pretty much as basic as it gets for an E65 (alloys the only upgrade I can see). No comfort seats - no buy! The seats aren't heated either, despite what it says in the ad. That engine is also prone to seriously expensive (and seemingly common) problems (crossover coolant pipe leak); indeed all non-M BMW V8s approx 2002 - 2010 should be very carefully examined before purchase.

jimgoose

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

The boxster is not a fast car like a Porsche should be. The 911 is not (for the most part) bought by "keep up with the jones's" people, as the boxster does the same job but for cheaper. It (boxster) looks like a porsche but does not drive like one. I should know, I was considering one a while back and took a test drive in a 2.7.

The X Type has nothing that a Jag should have. Grace? No, Space? No, Pace? no (except the 2.5 or 3.0 models perhaps)

And I am sorry, but a 2.1 FWD mondeo in drag is not a Jaguar. A Draguar perhaps :P

At 265 PS and a ton-and-a-quarter I'll disagree and consider it a perfectly peppy little roadster, for half the price of an entry-level 911 model. And as for the Draguar, I suppose you don't approve of the S-Type either, with it's Lincoln LS underpinnings??

Cleveland Hot Pocket

jimgoose wrote: »

At 265 PS and a ton-and-a-quarter I'll disagree and consider it a perfectly peppy little roadster, for half the price of an entry-level 911 model. And as for the Draguar, I suppose you don't approve of the S-Type either, with it's Lincoln LS underpinnings??

The S type is a model linked back to the original S type from the 60's, you can see the style cues.
Also, with most models being 220 bhp and above, I can not see it being not classed as fast. (Grace, space, pace - check check check)

jimgoose

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

The S type is a model linked back to the original S type from the 60's, you can see the style cues.
Also, with most models being 220 bhp and above, I can not see it being not classed as fast. (Grace, space, pace - check check check)

Mmm. I'll have that, but the S-Type shares a Ford platform with the big Lincoln, and the X-Type shares a platform with the Mondo, while using the classic XJ front and a slightly smaller version of the S-Type's arse. I'll argue that it's very much a Jag, for those who want to mind de peteral, like.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

jimgoose wrote: »

Mmm. I'll have that, but the S-Type shares a Ford platform with the big Lincoln, and the X-Type shares a platform with the Mondo, while using the classic XJ front and a slightly smaller version of the S-Type's arse. I'll argue that it's very much a Jag, for those who want to mind de peteral, like.

I mean obviously it is a Jag. It has the jag badge on it!
But it is like the "City Rover" is not really a rover at all. It is a rebadged TATA.
Now the x type obviously is not a rebadged mondeo but it shares a lot of components meaning the chassis and drivetrain are different from other jags.
It is like how I can (somewhat) forgive the 1 series and Compact 3 series BMWs because they somewhat stick to the "ultimate driving machine" moniker when specced with a proper engine, the X type on the other hand is not a proper jag IMO because of the low (by comparison for a "premium" marque" power, the small size, and the lack of "presence".

The type of people that buy these are the same people that buy mercedes with cloth seats and in manual with the lowest engine size "Just for de cheep tax and de new reg", and above all, keeping up appearances.

Valetta

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

I mean obviously it is a Jag. It has the jag badge on it!
But it is like the "City Rover" is not really a rover at all. It is a rebadged TATA.
Now the x type obviously is not a rebadged mondeo but it shares a lot of components meaning the chassis and drivetrain are different from other jags.
It is like how I can (somewhat) forgive the 1 series and Compact 3 series BMWs because they somewhat stick to the "ultimate driving machine" moniker when specced with a proper engine, the X type on the other hand is not a proper jag IMO because of the low (by comparison for a "premium" marque" power, the small size, and the lack of "presence".

The type of people that buy these are the same people that buy mercedes with cloth seats and in manual with the lowest engine size "Just for de cheep tax and de new reg", and above all, keeping up appearances.

How arrogant and patronising.

Big Nasty

Valetta wrote: »

How arrogant and patronising.

True enough mind you.

TBi

Valetta wrote: »

How arrogant and patronising.

Is it still arrogant and patronising if it is correct for the majority of buyers?

bear1

I'd have to agree with Cleveland. A lot or people prefer to save a few bob and drive a bog standard car than to splash out and get a much nicer version.
I've gone through that phase so I'm speaking from my own view here.
Now, I'd sacrifice the extra tax and fuel costs just so I can be happy to "drive" the car.
3.0 tax? pff bring it on as long as I enjoy being in the car and it has all the toys I want

For example:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2003-mercedes-s320-cdi-lwb-sale-swap-/5834948

Yes it's on the expensive side, but just look what you get! LWB for a start, heated/cooled seats all round, Satnav/TV thing anything you want!
Yes the tax is high but think of it this way, it's barely 5e a day Long live luxos!!

I also suppose we shouldn't complain so much, the people who believe they need to stay away from these cars makes them even cheaper for the ones who want to get these cars

delthedriver

bear1 wrote: »

I'd have to agree with Cleveland. A lot or people prefer to save a few bob and drive a bog standard car than to splash out and get a much nicer version.
I've gone through that phase so I'm speaking from my own view here.
Now, I'd sacrifice the extra tax and fuel costs just so I can be happy to "drive" the car.
3.0 tax? pff bring it on as long as I enjoy being in the car and it has all the toys I want

For example:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2003-mercedes-s320-cdi-lwb-sale-swap-/5834948

Yes it's on the expensive side, but just look what you get! LWB for a start, heated/cooled seats all round, Satnav/TV thing anything you want!
Yes the tax is high but think of it this way, it's barely 5e a day Long live luxos!!

I also suppose we shouldn't complain so much, the people who believe they need to stay away from these cars makes them even cheaper for the ones who want to get these cars

It is all a matter of personal opinion. Having driven numerous Marques in my lifetime Jaguar XJ is the ultimate saloon and Porsche 911 the ultimate sportscar:)
There is noting wrong with entry level, whether Xtype or Boxster. Buy what you like and most importantly ENJOY !:D