**HL Maths Paper 1 before/after**

peekachoo

May project maths be easily marked.

Monsieur Folie

This will either be really easy, or impossible. =/

Vito Corleone

May god have mercy on our souls.

peekachoo

Monsieur Folie wrote: »

This will either be really easy, or impossible. =/

more than likely the latter, hopefully they mark it easy

wow exuberant

attempt marks all day erryday

Monsieur Folie

I saw that someone posted a tweet that said not to worry if we start crying or anything, because apparently the paper is designed to absorb your tears and turn them into attempt marks!

Scuid Mhór

Partial credits lads!

RML

Prrof by induction is gonna be the death of me. I'll never understand that

Phoenix Wright

Sweet jesus, I am unbelievably screwed for differentiation and integration. This really could go either way. Paper 2 will bring everyone up though because it has Stats and Probability :P

Slow Show

Absolutely terrified at what they'll throw at us in Contexts & Applications, everything else I should hopefully be grand. I don't really know what to study for it right now tbh.

dorcan

hopefully financial maths play a small role, really hate it.

outnumbered

If we can get differentiation, Integration, Complex No.s, Induction, and Know basics of finance we should be ok!

Copper_pipe

Leave nothing blank lads! Low partial credits FTW!

Phoenix Wright

Don't worry too much if this one doesn't go your way. In the last pre I did, I got 45% in Paper 1 and then 75% in Paper 2

Undeadfred

Is this all we need to be able to prove?

De Moivre's Theorem
Differentiation proofs
First Principles
Geometric and Arithmetic series formulae
Infinite geometric series formula

Have I left anything out? Is there anything else that we just need to know off by heart?

diarmo06

Undeadfred wrote: »

Is this all we need to be able to prove?

De Moivre's Theorem
Differentiation proofs
First Principles
Geometric and Arithmetic series formulae
Infinite geometric series formula

Have I left anything out? Is there anything else that we just need to know off by heart?

Think thats it, half know them, feel like proofs won't play a major role in p1 tbh. Its certainly a matter of 0 or 1 coming.

johneugene

Can a theorem come up on paper 1? Any genuine predictions?

Prodigious

I like Maths

*hides

Dapics

I'd say you could write an equation vaguely related to the question and get 5 marks for it out of 15 based on last years paper.

Phoenix Wright

Undeadfred wrote: »

Is this all we need to be able to prove?

De Moivre's Theorem
Differentiation proofs
First Principles
Geometric and Arithmetic series formulae
Infinite geometric series formula

Have I left anything out? Is there anything else that we just need to know off by heart?

I know the first principles and that's it out of all that :eek:

ynwa14

I'm excited for this exam because its the only subject I'm actually banking on getting an A in (as well as german) *hides*

decisions

I don't think P1 will be that bad, other than financial maths I'm generally ok with it. P2 on the other hand...

0mega

What do people think is important to focus on at this stage?

Also what are the proofs for arithmetic and geometric formulae?

Undeadfred

Proofs for the series formulae are on wikipedia

11Charlie11

Is prove and construct an irrational number p1?

decisions

11Charlie11 wrote: »

Is prove and construct an irrational number p1?

Yep

weirdspider

dorcan wrote: »

hopefully financial maths play a small role, really hate it.

Sometimes its nearly impossible to root out what they are actually asking! Its likely to be a 50 marker unfortunately.

HPMS

I don't know about you, but it feels like such a relief to be able to study maths now without having to think about essays, or poets etc. Maths is so much more relaxing to study!

Prodigious

Financial Maths will be 25 marks IMO

outnumbered

Guys are you doing it in Pen or pencil? Trivial question I know but....

johneugene

outnumbered wrote: »

Guys are you doing it in Pen or pencil? Trivial question I know but....

I always mess it up if I do it in pen. But we were told pen could fade if it's too light. If doing in pen make sure it's HB.

outnumbered

johneugene wrote: »

I always mess it up if I do it in pen. But we were told pen could fade if it's too light. If doing in pen make sure it's HB.

Okay.
Also do you or anyone else know the timing for the paper?

Copper_pipe

outnumbered wrote: »

Okay.
Also do you or anyone else know the timing for the paper?

Half the number of marks per question and spend that many minutes on it

outnumbered

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Half the number of marks per question and spend that many minutes on it

sound! Thanks.

johneugene

outnumbered wrote: »

Okay.
Also do you or anyone else know the timing for the paper?

45 mins per section. 15 mins reading and checking. Depending on marks tho!

Glee_GG

I just know that length area and volume will be a long question and they always hate me . . Ugh really need the A

johneugene

Glee_GG wrote: »

I just know that length area and volume will be a long question and they always hate me . . Ugh really need the A

Any other hints?

Glee_GG

johneugene wrote: »

Any other hints?

my teacher did go to an inservice there recently enough and she said they were pretty convienced financial maths would be a long question but you never know really, i'd say it probably will be one though.

weirdspider

HPMS wrote: »

I don't know about you, but it feels like such a relief to be able to study maths now without having to think about essays, or poets etc. Maths is so much more relaxing to study!

Exactly! No learning quotes, sore hands from writing essays, you're right or you're wrong, no examiner subjectively deciding what grade you deserve. Its great! (but tough at times...)

Undeadfred

HPMS wrote: »

I don't know about you, but it feels like such a relief to be able to study maths now without having to think about essays, or poets etc. Maths is so much more relaxing to study!

Yeah its so nice not have to write about ****ing imagery or poetic bull**** anymore, just good ol' fashion maths.

HPMS wrote: »

Guys are you doing it in Pen or pencil? Trivial question I know but....

I'm doing mine in marker

OisinLAD

If any of ye out there have your exam papers home with you, flick to 2008 P1 for a minute please? :L For question 4 (c) I know how to complete the question, but sometimes I'm not sure which expression goes first and whether it's a + or a - in between them? Get what I'm saying? If you do, Please share your knowledge haha as I get the feeling this kind of question will come up tomoz

weirdspider

outnumbered wrote: »

Okay.
Also do you or anyone else know the timing for the paper?

Well if you divide up the times and marks it works out at 12.5 mins per 25 marks.

Acciaccatura

Pilot schools! Hope calculus is nothing like what was on the normal sample papers with the old syllabus :P

ScummyMan

Acciaccatura wrote: »

Pilot schools! Hope calculus is nothing like what was on the normal sample papers with the old syllabus :P

Calculus will be simple I think, they've taken off all the hard stuff for us!

Talib Fiasco

Best of luck everyone I really don't envy anyone doing paper one tomorrow :P Was by far my worst exam last year. Granted I only did an hour study before the exam after Geography as I focused completely on that the night before, it was a terrible exam for me. I was inconsolable after it.... I couldn't even do the part a's for some questions :L And after the exam I started to understand some parts.... Disgusted.

But yeah don't make my mistake. If you get bogged down, chill the f out. I didn't.... I just wanted to leave the exam and that was my downfall. You'll have loads of time in there. Take your time and make a serious stab at every part. Ye all know the deal with Project Maths. Attempt everything. Know your proofs and all that perfectly. They're guaranteed marks. Practice sample questions for everything. It's the most effective study for sure at this stage. But yeah try and relax inside there. You'll be sound then

And don't worry. Paper 2 is there to help you. I did an unbelievable paper 2 and it saved me from repeating this year. Give paper one your all and you'll feel great for paper two next week.

Good luck everyone, do De Moivre and Pythagoras proud :P

YoursSincerely

Last minute study came across this, one of the sample papers and can't find a solution, its in the edco papers pg 139 or question 5 here http://www.examinations.ie/schools/Project_Maths_Phase3_Paper_I_Higher_Level.pdf

Any idea what it is or if its on our course?

I don't know any proofs! Hardly know differentiation from first principals. Algebra will either be really good or abysmal, no in between. Let us hope for a Financial Maths long question and a logarithm long question!
May attempt marks help my soul.

Parawhore.xD

YoursSincerely wrote: »

Last minute study came across this, one of the sample papers and can't find a solution, its in the edco papers pg 139 or question 5 here http://www.examinations.ie/schools/Project_Maths_Phase3_Paper_I_Higher_Level.pdf

Any idea what it is or if its on our course?

Not our course!

outnumbered

YoursSincerely wrote: »

Last minute study came across this, one of the sample papers and can't find a solution, its in the edco papers pg 139 or question 5 here http://www.examinations.ie/schools/Project_Maths_Phase3_Paper_I_Higher_Level.pdf

Any idea what it is or if its on our course?

you just differentiate f twice, find max and min with respect to x.
As for the injective thing, it doesn't appear to be on the course!

outnumbered

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't know any proofs! Hardly know differentiation from first principals. Algebra will either be really good or abysmal, no in between. Let us hope for a Financial Maths long question and a logarithm long question!
May attempt marks help my soul.

Jesus H christ!
Why would you hope for a Financial question? :O wash your mouth out! (although, it certainly will come up as a long one!)

YoursSincerely

outnumbered wrote: »

you just differentiate f twice, find max and min with respect to x.
As for the injective thing, it doesn't appear to be on the course!

Ah cool thank you