Tom & Gerry V's Itchy & Scratchy

Testiculoor

Was streaming a few episodes of Tom & Gerry for a bit of crack, to reminisce so to speak of my younger self.

I reckon Matt Groening stole Itchy & Scratchy from Tom & Gerry or got the idea from them. they were made in the 1940's which I was a bit shocked about ( according to wiki )

The violence in Tom & Gerry is awesome which is why it was probably pulled due to the pc brigade and "won't someone think of the children"

Makes me sick. Anyway who do you think would win in a fight between Tom & Gerry and Itchy & Scratchy ??

and more importantly how do you feel that your kids will never get to see this sort of thing on TV again. I learned most of my pan handling and grifting from these shows.

Tom & Gerry - teaches good old violence
Top Cat - teaches How to commit fraud and get past po-leese
Yogi - teaches you how to steal and beat the rangers

So who do you think would win against these cat & mice and can you add any other older cartoons and give a reason as to why you think they were pulled.

The cartoons these days couldn't hold a candle to any of the above imo

Dravokivich

Jerry and Scratchy.

It's not that hard, they always win.

stefan idiot jones

It's Jerry

TiGeR KiNgS

Testiculoor wrote: »

Was streaming a few episodes of Tom & Gerry for a bit of crack, to reminisce so to speak of my younger self.

I reckon Matt Groening stole Itchy & Scratchy from Tom & Gerry or got the idea from them. they were made in the 1940's which I was a bit shocked about ( according to wiki )

The violence in Tom & Gerry is awesome which is why it was probably pulled due to the pc brigade and "won't someone think of the children"

Makes me sick. Anyway who do you think would win in a fight between Tom & Gerry and Itchy & Scratchy ??

and more importantly how do you feel that your kids will never get to see this sort of thing on TV again. I learned most of my pan handling and grifting from these shows.

Tom & Gerry - teaches good old violence
Top Cat - teaches How to commit fraud and get past po-leese
Yogi - teaches you how to steal and beat the rangers

So who do you think would win against these cat & mice and can you add any other older cartoons and give a reason as to why you think they were pulled.

The cartoons these days couldn't hold a candle to any of the above imo

I bet he stole McBain's character from Arnold Swartzeneggar too.
Mayor Quimbey is too much like JFK.

The Thief.

Its almost like Matt Groening tried to parody our lives.

geeky

Obviously Itchy & Scratchy is a reference to Tom and Jerry - and the hysterical reactions to it from concerned parents. I&S is more amped up, like everything in The Simpsons, and less creative, as it's really just a sideshow to the main cartoon.

I like to imagine that there's a message in both cartoons about the ever-growing power and dominance of Disney: The Mouse Always Wins.

iDave

Itchys a jerk

CardBordWindow

In the first episode of Tom & Jerry, the cat was called Jasper!

FatherLen

......bruce willis was a ghost the whole time!!1!!!111!!

Duckworth_Luas

FatherLen wrote: »

......bruce willis was a ghost the whole time!!1!!!111!!

Spoilers FFS! I was going to watch Die Hard tonight, guess I'll just watch Crying Game instead.

Turtyturd

Good bit of racism in the Tom and Jerry cartoons too....remember the black pair of legs that could talk?

iDave

Turtyturd wrote: »

Good bit of racism in the Tom and Jerry cartoons too....remember the black pair of legs that could talk?

Hardly racism, was fairly common for housekeepers in the USA to be black at the time.

IvySlayer

Word of the day: Parody

Wattle

What about Poochie? He's a rockin dude.

hoodwinked

i still watch Tom & Jerry on Boomerang with my 3 year old, she loves it!


its a timeless cartoon to be fair....

Turtyturd

iDave wrote: »

Hardly racism, was fairly common for housekeepers in the USA to be black at the time.

Yeah I probably should have went with racial stereotyping.

iDave

Turtyturd wrote: »

Yeah I probably should have went with racial stereotyping.

or accurate description

SEPT 23 1989

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJJW7EF5aVk

hairyprincess

I'm more of a fan of Ben & Jerry myself I have to say

AnonoBoy

The Itchy and Scratchy/Tom and Jerry connection eh?

Good work Sherlock, nobody but you could have figured out this blindingly obvious fact. :rolleyes:

V_Moth

Worker and Parasite is far superior to either. Endut hoch hech!

Frank Black

Good work OP.
I noticed something recently as well, that episode where Marge joins the police academy? Total rip off of that 1980's zany comedy film - Spaceballs.

Hoop66

TiGeR KiNgS wrote: »

I bet he stole McBain's character from Arnold Swartzeneggar too.
Mayor Quimbey is too much like JFK.

The Thief.

Its almost like Matt Groeing tried to parody our lives.

I reckon he stole Cheif Wiggum from Jimmy Cagney as well the bastard. And Professor Frink from Jerry Lewis. Jesus, it makes my blood boil.

lertsnim

Testiculoor wrote: »

they were made in the 1940's which I was a bit shocked about ( according to wiki )

When did you think they were from?

Super-Rush

Animation is built on plagiarism. If it weren't for someone plagiarizing the Honeymooners we wouldn't have the Flintstones. If someone hadn't ripped off Sergeant Bilko, there'd be no Top Cat. Huckleberry Hound, Chief Wiggum, Yogi Bear? Hah! Andy Griffith, Edward G. Robinson, Art Carney.

alchemist33

Wattle wrote: »

What about Poochie? He's a rockin dude.

Matrix Poochie

Greatest
Character
Ever

120_Minutes

Testiculoor wrote: »

I reckon Matt Groening stole Itchy & Scratchy from Tom & Gerry or got the idea from them.

also water is wet and the sky is blue.

Kylo Ren

He also got the prank calls Bart and Lisa do to Moe from a series of prank calls that were recorded in the 70's.

Here is one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zVVUM8fMC4

iDave

Mr Burns from Mr Potter in Its A Wonderful Life?

NothingMan

Drederick Tatum and Lucius Sweet are pretty much the only original characters in the Simpsons.... oh, wait.

Capt'n Midnight

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Spoilers FFS! I was going to watch Die Hard tonight, guess I'll just watch Crying Game instead.

It was his sled.


Also that Doug McClure guy

The Boatjacking of Supership '79 (ref. The Concorde: Airport '79)
Calling All Quakers (with Dolores Montenegro)
Christmas Ape
Christmas Ape Goes To Summer Camp
The Contrabulous Fabtraption of Professor Horatio Hufnagel
Cry Yuma (ref. Cry Havoc, Cry Freedom)
David versus Super Goliath
Dial M for Murderousness (ref. Dial M for Murder)
The Electric Gigolo (ref. The Electric Horseman and American Gigolo)
The Erotic Adventures of Hercules (ref. The Erotic Adventures of Zorro/The Erotic Adventures of Robinson Crusoe)
Give My Remains to Broadway (ref. Give My Regards to Broadway)
Gladys the Groovy Mule (ref. Francis the Talking Mule)
Good-Time Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great 'Frisco Freak-Out'
The Greatest Story Ever Hulaed (ref. The Greatest Story Ever Told)
Here Comes the Coast Guard (ref. Here Comes the Navy)
Hitler Doesn't Live Here Anymore (ref. Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore)
Hydro, the Man With the Hydraulic Arms (ref. X: The Man with the X-Ray Eyes)
Leper in the Backfield (ref. Angels in the Outfield)
Make-Out King of Montana (ref. Cattle Queen of Montana)
Meet Joe Blow (ref. Meet Joe Black, Meet John Doe)
The Muppets Go Medieval (ref. Muppet movie series)
"P" is for Psycho (ref. Psycho and novels by Sue Grafton)
Preacher With a Shovel (with Dolores Montenegro) KNOBBB
The President's Neck is Missing (ref. The President's Plane is Missing)
The Revenge of Abe Lincoln
The Seven-Year Old Bitch (ref. The Seven Year Itch)
Sorry, Wrong Closet (ref. Sorry, Wrong Number)
Suddenly Last Supper (ref. Suddenly Last Summer)
They Came to Burgle Carnegie Hall
Today We Kill, Tomorrow We Die (ref. US title of Dario Argento's Western Oggi a me... domani a te!)
The Verdict Was Mail Fraud
The Wackiest Covered Wagon in the West (ref. The Wackiest Ship in the Army, The Wackiest Wagon Train in the West)
Jagged Attraction (ref. Jagged Edge, Fatal Attraction)
Look Who's Still Oinking (ref. Look Who's Talking series)


You might remember Troy McClure from such educational films and self help videos as:
60 Minutes of Car Crash Victims
Adjusting Your Self-O-Stat (with Brad Goodman)
Alice's Adventure through the Windshield Glass (ref. Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There)
Alice Doesn't Live Any More (ref. Alice Doesn't Live Here Any More)
Birds: Our Fine Feathered Colleagues
The Decapitation of Larry Leadfoot
Designated Drivers: The Lifesaving Nerds
Dig Your Own Grave and Save
Earwigs, Ew!
Firecrackers: The Silent Killer
Fuzzy Bunny's Guide to You-Know-What (sex education film for children, shown in Springfield Elementary, the film shown was loosely based on Fritz the Cat)
Get Confident, Stupid!
The Half-Assed Approach to Foundation Repair
Here Comes the Metric System
Lead Paint: Delicious But Deadly
Locker Room Towel Fights: The Blinding of Larry Driscoll
Man Versus Nature: The Road To Victory
Meat and You – Partners in Freedom (a Meat Council film, part of the "Resistance is Useless" series)
Mommy, What's Wrong With That Man's Face? (ref. The Man Without a Face)
Mothballing Your Battleship
Phony Tornado Alerts Reduce Readiness
Shoplifters BEWARE
Smoke Yourself Thin
Someone's in the Kitchen with DNA! (ref. children's song "Someone's in the Kitchen with Dinah")
Two Minus Three Equals Negative Fun
Young Jebediah Springfield (A Watch-and-Learn Production)
Welcome to Springfield Airport (an information kiosk film)
Where's Nordstrom? (an information kiosk film)
Whoa! Don't Touch Me There!

Also
Alien Nose Job (ref. Alien autopsy)
Carnival of the Stars (ref. Circus of the Stars)
Five Fabulous Weeks of The Chevy Chase Show
Let's Save Tony Orlando's House
Out With Gout '88
The Miss American Girl Pageant
The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular
The Simpsons Spin-Off Showcase


And


AfterMannix (ref. AfterMASH and Mannix)
America's Funniest Tornadoes (ref. America's Funniest Home Videos)
Buck Henderson, Union Buster
Handel with Kare (ref. The Odd Couple and Switch).
I Can't Believe They Invented It! (an infomercial)
Shortland Street (unlikely to be any relation to the real-life New Zealand hospital Soap Opera Shortland Street, however)
Son of Sanford and Son (ref. Sanford and Son)
Troy and Company's Summertime Smile Factory (ref. all those short-lived, B-celebrity hosted comedy/variety programs of the 1960s and 1970s, especially The Late Summer-Early Fall Bert Convy Show).

Cartoons

Christmas Ape (ref. Grape Ape and Ernest)
Christmas Ape Goes to Summer Camp (ref. Ernest Goes to Camp, Rudolph and Frosty's Christmas in July)

krudler

This thread is becoming exactly like the Dental Plan thread, but with one important difference..


oh, they took that out , yes its exactly like the Dental Plan thread.


There really is a Simpsons quote for everything :pac:

darragh16

Super-Rush wrote: »

Animation is built on plagiarism. If it weren't for someone plagiarizing the Honeymooners we wouldn't have the Flintstones. If someone hadn't ripped off Sergeant Bilko, there'd be no Top Cat. Huckleberry Hound, Chief Wiggum, Yogi Bear? Hah! Andy Griffith, Edward G. Robinson, Art Carney.

The postal service ripped-off Manic Mailman as well! :pac:

PyeContinental

There's a vast difference between a homage or a reference to something, and stealing or plagiarising something.

hoodwinked

PyeContinental wrote: »

There's a vast difference between a homage or a reference to something, and stealing or plagiarising something.

yeah, retweeting is referencing something, quote retweeting and removing the original tweeter is plagiarizing!

Capt'n Midnight

When you steal from one it's plagiarising when you steal from many it's research.

efb

McGarnicle- Every Clint Eastwood character

Gorilla Rising

Super-Rush wrote: »

Animation is built on plagiarism. If it weren't for someone plagiarizing the Honeymooners we wouldn't have the Flintstones. If someone hadn't ripped off Sergeant Bilko, there'd be no Top Cat. Huckleberry Hound, Chief Wiggum, Yogi Bear? Hah! Andy Griffith, Edward G. Robinson, Art Carney.

Plagiarsim carries a lot of negative connotations and I don't think it's always right to use it in this context.

More of a remix.

--Kaiser--

Thread needs more Tom and Jerry. Genius cartoon, nearly up to Bugs Bunny standards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwhrCkMiKA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnKiWbq9VjI

bnt

Testiculoor wrote: »

Was streaming a few episodes of Tom & Gerry for a bit of crack, to reminisce so to speak of my younger self.

I reckon Matt Groening stole Itchy & Scratchy from Tom & Gerry or got the idea from them. they were made in the 1940's which I was a bit shocked about ( according to wiki )

It's Tom & Jerry, and yes, The Simpsons is full of references to other bits of film, TV and art. Let's take just one episode, Holidays of Future Passed, and there's a long list of references here. The title, for example, is not a mistake (passed / past), it's a reference to a 1967 Moody Blues album. Add in bits of Andy Rooney (US TV jornalist) and the Mad Max films. These nods to other sources are one reason why The Simpsons is popular with a wide spectrum of viewers.

keith16

Wattle wrote: »

What about Poochie? He's a rockin dude.

Yeah, whatever "Roy"

Duggy747

Klu Klux Klam :pac:

AnonoBoy

Sure the fax machine is nothing but a waffle iron with a phone attached.

starlit

Tom and jerry of course!:)

Jordan 199

Ned Flanders once called Itchy & Scratchy 'Impy and Chimpy'.

krudler

PyeContinental wrote: »

There's a vast difference between a homage or a reference to something, and stealing or plagiarising something.

Quentin Tarantino 'homages" movies, but not really, just rips them off.

blackwhite

Tom & Jerry??

Tame enough when compared to Pepe le Pew..... teaching children how they should never take no for an answer...... ever :eek:

--Kaiser--

blackwhite wrote: »

Tom & Jerry??

Tame enough when compared to Pepe le Pew..... teaching children how they should never take no for an answer...... ever :eek:

Yeah...the same way Wile E Coyote taught children to use explosives

NothingMan

Animaniacs. Teaching kids that a chicken with a hat on looks like a human...

castletownman

In terms of modern cartoons, both Johnny Test and Norman from Fireman Sam are responsible for the current generation of children being general rapscallions and smart-arses.

stefan idiot jones

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Yeah...the same way Wile E Coyote taught children to use explosives

The same way Bugs Bunny dresses up as a Southern Belle.

Off topic (slightly) Bugs Bunny was gay.
The dresses, the smoking jacket. I had this told to me a few years ago by some gay friends.
He was always putting lipstick on a kissing poor old Elmer Fudd.

--Kaiser--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

The same way Bugs Bunny dresses up as a Southern Belle.

Off topic (slightly) Bugs Bunny was gay.
The dresses, the smoking jacket. I had this told to me a few years ago by some gay friends.
He was always putting lipstick on a kissing poor old Elmer Fudd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2djHEIxPVs