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generalmental

Jailed for not having a tv license.
Over 11000 brought to court.
Not one banker in a prison cell tonight and Google and all the big players barely pay any tax.

But we must screw the ****ers who dont pay to watch Pat kenny etc etc

Country is a joke.

http://news.ie.msn.com/business/almost-11500-people-in-court-for-not-paying-tv-licence-1

Micky Dolenz

Life isn't fair.

mfceiling

Just found ours tonight while clearing out a kitchen drawer.

Missus must have got it on the sly without me knowing........i'll probably burn it in some kind of protest.

Dante

Rabble rabble 800 years rabble rabble

kneemos

Two wrongs wouldn't make a right.

The Backwards Man

We should start a communist revolution.

My name is URL

I only ever put the tele on to keep the dog entertained.. and I have to pay a licence fee for that fcuker too.

kneemos

The Backwards Man wrote: »

We should start a communist revolution.

The only good revolution is a circular revolution.

Allyall

generalmental wrote: »

Not one banker in a prison cell tonight

They probably paid their TV licence.

NuckingFacker

Err no, we should persue corrupt white-collar criminals with the same determination and unwavering cnutishness that they apply when prosecuting single mothers for having no TV licence. If you're going to go all out to get one "evader", go get the others with the same drive - don't have double standards. Double standards are crap. The State have a lot of double standards.

Although, white-collar criminals are clever - usually they can spin it so that the Jury has no idea what is being discussed and what wrong has been done. If you introduce a Judge only Court to deal with this, the Judge won't understand, and if you introduce a panel of experts to decide, half the experts will be on the same fiddle in the first place so won't convict/bring cases...

Molly needs to find a better excuse for not paying her TV licence and some legal loophole to get off on. Jasus, my head hurts..

dsmythy

Doubt there's any TV license non payers in jail tonight either. Few hours at most they get.

SB2013

generalmental wrote: »

Jailed for not having a tv license.

You sure about that? You sure they weren't jailed for not paying a court fine?

kneemos

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Err no, we should persue corrupt white-collar criminals with the same determination and unwavering cnutishness that they apply when prosecuting single mothers for having no TV licence. If you're going to go all out to get one "evader", go get the others with the same drive - don't have double standards. Double standards are crap. The State have a lot of double standards.

You have to be wholeheartedly determined to get prosecuted for no TV lincence.

cloudatlas

generalmental wrote: »

Jailed for not having a tv license.
Over 11000 brought to court.
Not one banker in a prison cell tonight and Google and all the big players barely pay any tax.

But we must screw the ****ers who dont pay to watch Pat kenny etc etc

Country is a joke.

http://news.ie.msn.com/business/almost-11500-people-in-court-for-not-paying-tv-licence-1

I wish people would quit using the lazy banker argument. 'Joe, <insert thing that happened> but the bankers aren't in jail!!!!', rabble rabble. Bankers behaviour wasn't a joke in the good times in fact that kind of greed was championed. Greed and huge pay packets was only vilified when they failed.

ArseLtd

generalmental wrote: »

Jailed for not having a tv license.
Over 11000 brought to court.
Not one banker in a prison cell tonight and Google and all the big players barely pay any tax.

But we must screw the ****ers who dont pay to watch Pat kenny etc etc

Country is a joke.

http://news.ie.msn.com/business/almost-11500-people-in-court-for-not-paying-tv-licence-1

You'll start believing "conspiracy theorists" soon enough

dxhound2005

SB2013 wrote: »

You sure about that? You sure they weren't jailed for not paying a court fine?

The link says jailed for not having a licence but it is almost certainly incorrect. Thousands are jailed every year for not paying fines, including fines for not have a TV licence.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-jailed-for-not-paying-fines-29252389.html

There is legislation which is waiting to be activated which will allow the courts to recover unpaid fines from wages, Social Welfare etc. The sooner this is done the better in the interest of the law abiding majority who pay for everything and to stop the prison system being clogged up with people spending a few hours inside for not paying their fines.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2010/en/act/pub/0008/index.html

orestes

But according to some of the folks on here you get to watch all the tv you want in prison, so they're really winning in the long run. Well played.

My name is URL

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There is legislation which is waiting to be activated which will allow the courts to recover unpaid fines from wages, Social Welfare etc. The sooner this is done the better in the interest of the law abiding majority who pay for everything

jaysus you never fail to show up in a tax thread. You're like Zacchaeus

dxhound2005

My name is URL wrote: »

jaysus you never fail to show up in a tax thread. You're like Zacchaeus

What has the Bible got to say on the issue of TV licences?

seanm92

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Err no, we should persue corrupt white-collar criminals with the same determination and unwavering cnutishness that they apply when prosecuting single mothers for having no TV licence. If you're going to go all out to get one "evader", go get the others with the same drive - don't have double standards. Double standards are crap. The State have a lot of double standards.

In one breath you say there should be no double standards and yet you specifically refer to them pursuing single mothers, be it a single mother or anyone else who doesn't pay their licence or breaks the law in another way, they should fully expect to be prosecuted, it is the law after all, regardless of whether you agree with it or otherwise, I don't get this outrage, just bloody pay it or shut up complaining about being prosecuted.

You're the one showing double standards if anything, what i the difference between a single mother or anyone else for that matter? If you don't pay, you shouldnt be so surprised when it eventually catches up with you, tough Shit!

My name is URL

dxhound2005 wrote: »

What has the Bible got to say on the issue of TV licences?

"And he left them and went out of the city, into Bethany, and he lodged there"

Yeah, think about it.

BornToKill

The Backwards Man wrote: »

We should start a communist revolution.

The revolution will not be televised.

generalmental

Allyall wrote: »

What do you reckon should be done about it?

Everyone should be treated the same.if you Havnt paid your tv license then you should get locked up.

If you managed to fiddle your accounts in the bank to make it look like your bank is run well but its not and you get caught you should be locked up too.

As Far as im concerned that is fraud and as far as i know that is an offence punishable by a prison term.

generalmental

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Life isn't fair.

Its more than fair if your a banker

mcwinning

I really don't have a problem with companies like Google, Intel, Pfizer etc paying little to no tax as long as they are in the country employing thousands of people on good money.

generalmental

DaaaaaaaaaaN wrote: »

Rabble rabble 800 years rabble rabble

Not once did i mention 800 year or the word rabble so i do not know what you are talking about

generalmental

dsmythy wrote: »

Doubt there's any TV license non payers in jail tonight either. Few hours at most they get.

Thats not the point. They were brought to prison none of the other cnuts were

Duggy747

generalmental wrote: »

Not one banker in a prison cell tonight and Google and all the big players barely pay any tax.

Charge Google / Big Players high corp tax.

Google / Big Players leave.

People then complain that government isn't doing enough to get or keep big companies in the country to stop thousands of people being laid off.

generalmental

SB2013 wrote: »

You sure about that? You sure they weren't jailed for not paying a court fine?

Yes they probably were jailed for not paying the fine that was given to them for not paying their tv license.

dxhound2005

generalmental wrote: »

Everyone should be treated the same.if you Havnt paid your tv license then you should get locked up.

If you managed to fiddle your accounts in the bank to make it look like your bank is run well but its not and you get caught you should be locked up too.

As Far as im concerned that is fraud and as far as i know that is an offence punishable by a prison term.

You cannot be jailed for not having a TV licence, you can only be fined.

Penalties

Conviction for non-payment of a television licence (first offence) is a fine of up to €1,000.

If you are convicted a second time or more for not paying your television licence, you will be fined up to €2,000.

IM0

online?

generalmental

cloudatlas wrote: »

I wish people would quit using the lazy banker argument. 'Joe, <insert thing that happened> but the bankers aren't in jail!!!!', rabble rabble. Bankers behaviour wasn't a joke in the good times in fact that kind of greed was championed. Greed and huge pay packets was only vilified when they failed.

Im sorry but i dont see it that way. They are a citizen of this country and that means they have to abide the laws just like everyone else. If they break the law they should be punished in the same way as everyone else

donegal_road

this is one of the more ludicrous sentences every handed down by an Irish court

A LOCAL authority has washed its hands of the imprisonment of three men who left rubbish at a recycling bank, saying the decision was "a matter for the courts".

All three men were jailed for non-payment of litter fines after leaving items at a bottle bank outside a supermarket in Ashbourne, Co Meath.

In a statement yesterday, Meath County Council said they implemented the provisions of the Litter Pollution Act 1997 and "persons who are caught littering are issued with a fine or fines as appropriate".

"If this fine is not paid it is followed by a warning letter. If the fine is still not paid, the matter is referred to the council's legal advisers in order to pursue same through the courts."

It said that if the court decided the fine should stand -- or decided to increase the fine -- then the money is pursued by the courts service.

The three men contacted RTE's 'Liveline' yesterday to speak of their experiences.

One man, named Stephen, said he had spent much of Wednesday incarcerated in Wheatfield Prison for non-payment of the fine after leaving a box outside a recycling bank at Supervalu in Ashbourne, Co Meath.

He was freed after his mother made an emotional appeal on his behalf on 'Liveline' and his father made a donation of €200 towards his fine.

Prosecuted

Two other men were also put in prison for non-payments of fines at the same location and all were prosecuted in the space of a few months, on foot of CCTV footage taken from the scene.

Another of the men, named Chris, said he was jailed for his failure to pay a litter fine after his 12-year-old son left a crumpled plastic bag at the bottle bank after disposing of the contents.

"In my experience it was a totally nonsensical thing to do," he said of the decision to imprison him.

*Is it true that it costs the taxpayer €2000 per week to keep someone in prison in Ireland? or did I dream it....

0066ad

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You cannot be jailed for not having a TV licence, you can only be fined.

Penalties

Conviction for non-payment of a television licence (first offence) is a fine of up to €1,000.

If you are convicted a second time or more for not paying your television licence, you will be fined up to €2,000.

I suppose that is ok then, if they haven't got the 180 euro to pay for the tv license we will fine them 1,000 euro, do you seriously think someone who hasn't got the 180 euro is going to be able to pay the 1,000 euro fine?

generalmental

Duggy747 wrote: »

Charge Google / Big Players high corp tax.

Google / Big Players leave.

People then complain that government isn't doing enough to get or keep big companies in the country to stop thousands of people being laid off.

You dont have to charge there companies a high tax rate but maybe we could al least charge them the 12.5% that the government is saying they charge

seanm92

0066ad wrote: »

I suppose that is ok then, if they haven't got the 180 euro to pay for the tv license we will fine them 1,000 euro, do you seriously think someone who hasn't got the 180 euro is going to be able to pay the 1,000 euro fine?

Maybe they shouldn't have a TV in that case, if they haven't €180 to spare they should possibly not even buy the TV and spend the money elsewhere. In my experience it seems that rather than not having the money to pay the licence fee, they couldn't be bothered in many cases.

Paddy Cow

The tv license is nothing more than a government sanctioned protection racket. Pay €160 every year for a service that you may or may not use or face a fine and possible jail. At least the BBC have the good grace not to take the p!ss by having loads of ads. I live on my own and have no need for tv but because I have a laptop I still have to pay it. I don't listen to the radio either. Why don't RTE make the license optional? If you use Sky or UPC, why can't you opt for a package that doesn't include any RTE channels? Because they would lose too much money.

Does anyone know what the license is supposed to be for? I mean I can understand having a license for your dog but it's not like the tv is in danger of jumping the wall and attacking the neighbour's children. Does it serve a real purpose? I don't accept that it's to fund either radio or tv programmes, as plenty of non RTE channels manage to survive.

Paddy Cow

seanm92 wrote: »

Maybe they shouldn't have a TV in that case, if they haven't €180 to spare they should possibly not even buy the TV and spend the money elsewhere. In my experience it seems that rather than not having the money to pay the licence fee, they couldn't be bothered in many cases.

It doesn't matter if you don't have a tv. If you have a radio or laptop or many other devices you have to pay it. Apparently even if you have a tv in your house which you don't use (I have one gathering dust which I want to get rid of but no one will take because it's an old piece of junk), you still have to pay.

seanm92

Paddy Cow wrote: »

It doesn't matter if you don't have a tv. If you have a radio or laptop or many other devices you have to pay it. Apparently even if you have a tv in your house which you don't use (I have one gathering dust which I want to get rid of but no one will take because it's an old piece of junk), you still have to pay.

You don't have to pay for a radio, its only for devices capable of receiving a television signal according to citizens information at least, although I'm open to correction on that. I know about the laptop but the point I'm making is that how can someone be able to buy a laptop, TV etc. and not be able to pay the licence???

dxhound2005

Paddy Cow wrote: »

It doesn't matter if you don't have a tv. If you have a radio or laptop or many other devices you have to pay it. Apparently even if you have a tv in your house which you don't use (I have one gathering dust which I want to get rid of but no one will take because it's an old piece of junk), you still have to pay.

There is no need for a licence if you only have a radio.

0066ad

seanm92 wrote: »

Maybe they shouldn't have a TV in that case, if they haven't €180 to spare they should possibly not even buy the TV and spend the money elsewhere. In my experience it seems that rather than not having the money to pay the licence fee, they couldn't be bothered in many cases.

Maybe they had a tv license in the better times and didn't think they would lose their jobs and not be able to afford one in the future, what are those people suppose to say to their kids? sorry you can't watch your tv shows any more I have to throw the telly out the window because I can't pay tubbers wages anymore.

withless

If anyone has that tv spongers ad with the sponge and the washing line please post it.

IT SCARED THE BEJAYSUS OUT OF ME WHEN I WAS A YOUNGFELLA

0066ad

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There is no need for a licence if you only have a radio.

Will do soon, when it is the broad casting tax.

Paddy Cow

seanm92 wrote: »

You don't have to pay for a radio, its only for devices capable of receiving a television signal according to citizens information at least, although I'm open to correction on that. I know about the laptop but the point I'm making is that how can someone be able to buy a laptop, TV etc. and not be able to pay the licence???

A tv or laptop is a one off expense. I saved for ages to get my laptop and bought it when I was able to afford it. The license is every fecking year and not something you can put on the back burner if you are a bit strapped for cash.

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There is no need for a licence if you only have a radio.

I stand corrected.

seanm92

0066ad wrote: »

Maybe they had a tv license in the better times and didn't think they would lose their jobs and not be able to afford one in the future, what are those people suppose to say to their kids? sorry you can't watch your tv shows any more I have to throw the telly out the window because I can't pay tubbers wages anymore.

Correct me if I'm wrong but do social welfare recipients not receive money toward a tv licence or receive one for free??

seanm92

Paddy Cow wrote: »

A tv or laptop is a one off expense. I saved for ages to get my laptop and bought it when I was able to afford it. The license is every fecking year and not something you can put on the back burner if you are a bit strapped for cash.

That's fair enough and I can understand that its not a once off thing, but it can be paid over the year AFAIK. I'm not a fan of the TV licence myself, but I just cant stand some of the moaning that some are doing about being fined for not paying it when it is the law of the country.

SB2013

generalmental wrote: »

Yes they probably were jailed for not paying the fine that was given to them for not paying their tv license.

I think you'll find it refers to penal warrants executed. The person could already be in prison when the warrant is executed. They could be lodged on more than one warrant of which the tv licence one is the shortest one. I think you'll find very few, if any, are put in prison for not paying a court fine for not having a tv licence. Those that are might as well be on a tour of the prison for all the time they spend there.

0066ad

seanm92 wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but do social welfare recipients not receive money toward a tv licence or receive one for free??

That is a myth you probably heard here on boards, just think about this is 272 people who now have a conviction on their record for non payment of a fine simply because they haven't got the money to pay the fat cats in rte wages.

Paddy Cow

seanm92 wrote: »

That's fair enough and I can understand that its not a once off thing, but it can be paid over the year AFAIK. I'm not a fan of the TV licence myself, but I just cant stand some of the moaning that some are doing about being fined for not paying it when it is the law of the country.

I don't have blind respect for the law. Many laws are ridiculously archaic and I think the tv license is one of them. No one has ever been able to explain to me why we have it apart from "it's the law". RTE is not a service that we need like water or bin collection and if people want to pay for it, that should be their perogative, not something they are forced to do under threat of fines and/or prison.

seanm92

0066ad wrote: »

That is a myth you probably heard here on boards, just think about this is 272 people who now have a conviction on their record for non payment of a fine simply because they haven't got the money to pay the fat cats in rte wages.

No I didn't read on here, It seems that although not everyone on social welfare is entitled to one, some are though so I wouldn't call it a myth at the same time.

If they do that's their own fault really, I honestly couldn't care less to be honest, it is after all their choice not to pay. I can't stand the constant whinging from some who don't pay when they get caught. They're fully aware of what can happen if they don't pay the fee.

seanm92

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I don't have blind respect for the law. Many laws are ridiculously archaic and I think the tv license is one of them. No one has ever been able to explain to me why we have it apart from "it's the law". RTE is not a service that we need like water or bin collection and if people want to pay for it, that should be their perogative, not something they are forced to do under threat of fines and/or prison.

Likewise, owning a TV is not a necessity though.