Free climbing a crane. I nearly vomited

seven_eleven

We've all seen videos like this before, but this one takes it to a new level for me. Especially from about 1:55 onwards, I felt so sick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fs0hkdJzk8

Loopy

Someone watch and let me know..
It's Monday bank holiday ffs

Profiler

OK that was weird, what I'd like to know why did he take with him the life size toy Koala bear, and how he fixed the wings on it

man that thing flew for MILES!

kfallon

Loopy wrote: »

Someone watch and let me know..
It's Monday bank holiday ffs

I don't feel great after it tbh

Lunatic climbs crane.

Crane is very high.

Lunatic dangles off crane with 2 arms.

Lunatic leaves one arm go and remains dangling.

Everyone has a good time

My name is URL

The music unnerves me more than the height

TeddyTedson

I wonder will he be on the late late show next week now after this?

Moved from After Hours

Agricola

Must be awful to have a pillock like that for a son, bf, brother. Talk about fúcking asking to die.

gifted

Knobhead deserves to fall to his death...

kaizersoze

If that made you vomit OP then don't go near the NOPE thread.....:P:D

Duff

He better have dropped into the marina or it's just plain silly.

donvito99

Bizarrely, my neck cramped up watching that.

Son Of A Vidic

Bloody muppet and what does his efforts prove? Nothing except that he's a total idiot of course.

FatherLen

gifted wrote: »

Knobhead deserves to fall to his death...

bit harsh.

gifted

FatherLen wrote: »

bit harsh.

sorry...apologies to all knobheads out there...bollix deserves to fall to his death

dexter647

First of all crazy SOB and second do not watch after a few beers on a bank holiday monday...:eek:

recyclebin

My hands are sweating just watching that.

Play To Kill

LEIN

Can some posters please tone it down. He is crazy, but he does not deserve some of the abuse he is receiving here.

Thanks

Tonyandthewhale

That must have been such a sublime sort of rush. Obviously there's the issue of him being a knobhead if he falls and dies and upsets all of his friends and family for the sake of having gone up high but I'm sure it was a memorable experience and to be fair, it's not exactly a challenging climb from a technical point of view so a fall isn't terribly likely.

They say one in two smokers die of a smoking related disease. I very much doubt one in two people who climb to the top of a crane die from a falling off the top of a crane related disease so in the grand scheme of things it's not that outrageous.

It's a classic case of cognitive bias where people imagine an activity such as climbing a crane to be ridiculously dangerous and retarded because they can easily imagine it's negative consequences but the same people will under-estimate the far more prevalent and often far more deadly dangers of things like fast food, cigarettes, alcohol, driving, living in a polluted city etc.

Lot's of people take risks to have fun; don't be calling them knobheads unless you've actually taken the time to evaluate the risks.

gifted

well. I've evaluated the risks and looked at the hazards and frankly my opinion of him is exactly the same..:D

Duck's hoop

Tonyandthewhale wrote: »

That must have been such a sublime sort of rush. Obviously there's the issue of him being a knobhead if he falls and dies and upsets all of his friends and family for the sake of having gone up high but I'm sure it was a memorable experience and to be fair, it's not exactly a challenging climb from a technical point of view so a fall isn't terribly likely.

They say one in two smokers die of a smoking related disease. I very much doubt one in two people who climb to the top of a crane die from a falling off the top of a crane related disease so in the grand scheme of things it's not that outrageous.

It's a classic case of cognitive bias where people imagine an activity such as climbing a crane to be ridiculously dangerous and retarded because they can easily imagine it's negative consequences but the same people will under-estimate the far more prevalent and often far more deadly dangers of things like fast food, cigarettes, alcohol, driving, living in a polluted city etc.

Lot's of people take risks to have fun; don't be calling them knobheads unless you've actually taken the time to evaluate the risks.

It's more the hanging by the fingers of one hand that's quite risky I would have thought. Fair play to him though.

Bruthal

Tonyandthewhale wrote: »

That must have been such a sublime sort of rush. Obviously there's the issue of him being a knobhead if he falls and dies and upsets all of his friends and family for the sake of having gone up high but I'm sure it was a memorable experience and to be fair, it's not exactly a challenging climb from a technical point of view so a fall isn't terribly likely.

They say one in two smokers die of a smoking related disease. I very much doubt one in two people who climb to the top of a crane die from a falling off the top of a crane related disease so in the grand scheme of things it's not that outrageous.

It's a classic case of cognitive bias where people imagine an activity such as climbing a crane to be ridiculously dangerous and retarded because they can easily imagine it's negative consequences but the same people will under-estimate the far more prevalent and often far more deadly dangers of things like fast food, cigarettes, alcohol, driving, living in a polluted city etc.

Lot's of people take risks to have fun; don't be calling them knobheads unless you've actually taken the time to evaluate the risks.

Which would you prefer though, or which would be a bigger worry for you, a son taking up smoking, or climbing s crane once a day and hanging by one hand from it?

Gaspode

Worse to watch than anything thats come up on the nope thread in a while. Sweaty palms all around.

Tonyandthewhale

Bruthal wrote: »

Which would you prefer though, or which would be a bigger worry for you, a son taking up smoking, or climbing s crane once a day and hanging by one hand from it?

Smoking hands down. Although most of the people I know haven't free-climbed anything quite as high as this crane most people I know spent a large part of their childhood climbing trees and things like that and ending up high enough so that a fall could be life-threatening or at the very least make serious injury almost inevitable. That's widely regarded as a natural part of childhood though. The difference between falling from the top of a crane and the top of a tree is that it's going to take you an awful lot longer to hit the ground from the top of the crane. Either way you're in serious trouble.

The fact of the matter is people just don't fall off things for no reason, if we did we wouldn't be able to sit on chairs. While there is a chance the crane guy could have a freak accident and slip the basic mechanical action for the most part is just climbing a ladder, one hand and one foot after the other. The hanging off bit is similar to performing a pull-up and I don't know about you but I've done thousands of pull-ups over the course of my life and I've never just fallen off the bar for no reason.
(I'm not saying it's not dangerous to climb cranes willy-nilly, just that the dangers can easily be over-stated and they're certainly not as severe as those related to regular smoking).

You don't have that same level of control when you get cancer from smoking too many cigarettes.

While I wouldn't encourage any hypothetical son of mine to get into urban free-climbing I'd definitely be a lot more concerned about the REAL dangers of smoking.

Tonyandthewhale

gifted wrote: »

well. I've evaluated the risks and looked at the hazards and frankly my opinion of him is exactly the same..:D

Grand so, I certainly hope your day job isn't anything to do with evaluating and managing risks or ensuring the safety and well-being of others.

Bruthal

Tonyandthewhale wrote: »

Smoking hands down.

I doubt that really. Any normal parent would be horrified beyond belief to see a son doing what is done in that video. Anyone that does that type of thing is likely going to do more and more dangerous stuff.

Although most of the people I know haven't free-climbed anything quite as high as this crane most people I know spent a large part of their childhood climbing trees and things like that and ending up high enough so that a fall could be life-threatening or at the very least make serious injury almost inevitable. That's widely regarded as a natural part of childhood though. The difference between falling from the top of a crane and the top of a tree is that it's going to take you an awful lot longer to hit the ground from the top of the crane. Either way you're in serious trouble.

If every child that climbed a tree did whats seen in the crane video instead, there would be a few more deaths than happens from the tree climbing.

The fact of the matter is people just don't fall off things for no reason, if we did we wouldn't be able to sit on chairs. While there is a chance the crane guy could have a freak accident and slip the basic mechanical action for the most part is just climbing a ladder, one hand and one foot after the other. The hanging off bit is similar to performing a pull-up and I don't know about you but I've done thousands of pull-ups over the course of my life and I've never just fallen off the bar for no reason.

It was not just doing pull ups where you stand on the ground, reach up and grip a bar, and pull yourself up, it was walking out to the end of a crane, and climbing down onto a spar, and hang by one hand.

Your comparison between doing pull ups, and swinging by one hand from a crane, is a little bizarre.

(I'm not saying it's not dangerous to climb cranes willy-nilly, just that the dangers can easily be over-stated and they're certainly not as severe as those related to regular smoking).

Regular smokers often live the full life term, just not as comfortably as a non smoker on average. A regular climb of a crane and swinging by one hand will very likely mean an early death.

You don't have that same level of control when you get cancer from smoking too many cigarettes.

One little loss of control while climbing too many cranes and hanging from them, and its immediate death, with no second chances.

While I wouldn't encourage any hypothetical son of mine to get into urban free-climbing I'd definitely be a lot more concerned about the REAL dangers of smoking.

Yea, you would sit comfortably while the hypothetical son swings from a position where a single slip means certain death, but would fear for his life if he is smoking, based on you feeling safe while doing pull ups a foot off the ground.

A real son however, and the daily crane climbing/swinging might just be a little more troubling for you, than if he was doing pull ups.

Bruthal

Tonyandthewhale wrote: »

Grand so, I certainly hope your day job isn't anything to do with evaluating and managing risks or ensuring the safety and well-being of others.

Well you compared hanging from a crane by one arm as seen in the video, to doing pull ups. So safety assessment wouldnt seem to be your best attribute anyway.

Unregistered.

Bruthal wrote: »

A regular climb of a crane and swinging by one hand will very likely mean an early death.

Source?

Bruthal

Unregistered. wrote: »

Source?

So, you believe a good percentage of the population will manage to climb a crane, and hang by one hand, regularly without falling, until into their 70's?

RustyNut

gifted wrote: »

sorry...apologies to all knobheads out there...bollix deserves to fall to his death

At least he will have lived his way before he dies.

Unregistered.

Bruthal wrote: »

So, you believe a good percentage of the population will manage to climb a crane, and hang by one hand, regularly without falling, until into their 70's?

I don't see why not.

Bruthal

Unregistered. wrote: »

I don't see why not.

Enough said.

We don't see him climb back up from his position hanging from the bar. Not an easy feat I wouldn't imagine, for a young man, never mind an elderly man.

Kingkong

I have done and will continue do things that put my life at risk. If we didnt we would be very boring.....but I would never put someone else in harms directly or indirectly.

The guy climbing the Crane over the freeway in LA is a complete idot, at least the other guy did it over a harbour.

I also dont agree with trepassing and illegally climbing a crane. That crane worker in the morning could be haunted for life knowing some young lad fell to his death on his crane and could blame himself for not locking the access door etc....

There is always a ripply effect.

Play To Kill

Kingkong wrote: »

The guy climbing the Crane over the freeway in LA is a complete idot, at least the other guy did it over a harbour.

Its the same guy in both, he seems to these things regularly.

Cienciano

Gaspode wrote: »

Worse to watch than anything thats come up on the nope thread in a while. Sweaty palms all around.

Moms spaghetti

MrPoker

This guy even crazier. Seems to be a popular activity in Russia.

Tonyandthewhale

Bruthal wrote: »

Well you compared hanging from a crane by one arm as seen in the video, to doing pull ups. So safety assessment wouldnt seem to be your best attribute anyway.

Well they're both basic activities where you grab onto a bar and rely on your upper body and core strength to raise and lower yourself. You don't need a great deal of balance or skill or dexterity or luck to accomplish either safely. The main difference is that if you mess up something like a push-up you'll look like a twat, whereas if you mess up something like hanging off a crane by one hand you'll look like a splat. That's a difference in the consequences of something going wrong, not necessarily a noticeable difference in the likelihood of something going wrong.

Bruthal wrote: »

I doubt that really. Any normal parent would be horrified beyond belief to see a son doing what is done in that video. Anyone that does that type of thing is likely going to do more and more dangerous stuff.

Every normal parent would be horrified just as the majority of the people commenting here were horrified, because of cognitive bias. I'm not saying I'd be happy to see a child of mine messing about on a crane, but there are bigger risks out there.

If every child that climbed a tree did whats seen in the crane video instead, there would be a few more deaths than happens from the tree climbing.

You mean if every child hung off of branches from time to time? You're probably right, a child probably would have difficulty pulling itself back up safely and easily, a grown man who clearly works out and presumably climbs regularly doesn't have quite the same concerns.

It was not just doing pull ups where you stand on the ground, reach up and grip a bar, and pull yourself up, it was walking out to the end of a crane, and climbing down onto a spar, and hang by one hand.

Your comparison between doing pull ups, and swinging by one hand from a crane, is a little bizarre.

Imagine he was doing it two metres off the ground instead of 200, would you expect him to fall? Personally, it wouldn't even cross my mind.

Regular smokers often live the full life term, just not as comfortably as a non smoker on average. A regular climb of a crane and swinging by one hand will very likely mean an early death.

Besides the fact that you're just guessing about the life expectancy of free climbers I'm very curious as to what you mean by 'the full life term' and I shudder to think what 'not as comfortably' actually means.

A real son however, and the daily crane climbing/swinging might just be a little more troubling for you, than if he was doing pull ups.

Well I never said climbing cranes was dangerous as pull-ups, I said it was less dangerous than smoking. And you know what, if the hypothetical son actually climbed a crane and hung off by one hand EVERY SINGLE DAY, 365 days a year from the age of say 18 up to the point of his death be it at 19 or 91 then I can concede that there's a fairly good chance the crane swinging could be the cause of his death - I don't know if it'd be a one in two chance like smoking though because no one has ever lived a like quite like that. And in that crazy scenario climbing in adverse conditions such as wind and rain (which you would have to face if you were climbing EVERY SINGLE DAY) would be more of a cause for concern than hanging off by one hand.

Tonyandthewhale

Also, the guy who smokes regularly has a 50% chance of dying. The guy who climbs the occasional crane on a calm sunny day has an unknown chance of dying but it's probably not as high as 50% (how many free-climbing crane deaths have you heard of?).

The smoker however has an almost 100% chance that his quality of life will be impaired by poor lung capacity or foul odour or just from spending all his money on fags.
Crane climber guy benefits from a regular work out and a nice view up until the point where he slips and dies or stops climbing or dies from lung cancer brought on by second hand smoke.

Bruthal

Tonyandthewhale wrote: »

Also, the guy who smokes regularly has a 50% chance of dying. The guy who climbs the occasional crane on a calm sunny day has an unknown chance of dying but it's probably not as high as 50% (how many free-climbing crane deaths have you heard of?).

The smoker however has an almost 100% chance that his quality of life will be impaired by poor lung capacity or foul odour or just from spending all his money on fags.
Crane climber guy benefits from a regular work out and a nice view up until the point where he slips and dies or stops climbing or dies from lung cancer brought on by second hand smoke.

A smoker has 100% chance of dying. As does the crane climber. As does a non smoker.

Bruthal

Tonyandthewhale wrote: »

Well they're both basic activities where you grab onto a bar and rely on your upper body and core strength to raise and lower yourself. You don't need a great deal of balance or skill or dexterity or luck to accomplish either safely. The main difference is that if you mess up something like a push-up you'll look like a twat, whereas if you mess up something like hanging off a crane by one hand you'll look like a splat. That's a difference in the consequences of something going wrong, not necessarily a noticeable difference in the likelihood of something going wrong.

Every normal parent would be horrified just as the majority of the people commenting here were horrified, because of cognitive bias. I'm not saying I'd be happy to see a child of mine messing about on a crane, but there are bigger risks out there.


You mean if every child hung off of branches from time to time? You're probably right, a child probably would have difficulty pulling itself back up safely and easily, a grown man who clearly works out and presumably climbs regularly doesn't have quite the same concerns.

Imagine he was doing it two metres off the ground instead of 200, would you expect him to fall? Personally, it wouldn't even cross my mind.


Besides the fact that you're just guessing about the life expectancy of free climbers I'm very curious as to what you mean by 'the full life term' and I shudder to think what 'not as comfortably' actually means.


Well I never said climbing cranes was dangerous as pull-ups, I said it was less dangerous than smoking. And you know what, if the hypothetical son actually climbed a crane and hung off by one hand EVERY SINGLE DAY, 365 days a year from the age of say 18 up to the point of his death be it at 19 or 91 then I can concede that there's a fairly good chance the crane swinging could be the cause of his death - I don't know if it'd be a one in two chance like smoking though because no one has ever lived a like quite like that. And in that crazy scenario climbing in adverse conditions such as wind and rain (which you would have to face if you were climbing EVERY SINGLE DAY) would be more of a cause for concern than hanging off by one hand.

O I think if you suddenly came upon a son dangling from a crane, you would not be so unconcerned. Boards often seems to produce posts not based on real life, and if a hypothetical son becomes a real one, views might then become more realistic. But perhaps not in this case.

Tonyandthewhale

Bruthal wrote: »

A smoker has 100% chance of dying. As does the crane climber. As does a non smoker.

Yeah, but the smoker is very likely to die of something relating to smoking, we can't necessarily say the same for crane climbers.

Bruthal wrote: »

O I think if you suddenly came upon a son dangling from a crane, you would not be so unconcerned. Boards often seems to produce posts not based on real life, and if a hypothetical son becomes a real one, views might then become more realistic. But perhaps not in this case.

I never said I wouldn't be concerned, I just said I would be more concerned about a child of mine taking up smoking.
Would you not be concerned if a hypothetical child of yours became addicted to cigarettes?

[Jackass]

Video in OP unsettled my stomach somewhat.

laraghrider

Do we really class climbing a ladder as free climbing?

ScrubsfanChris

Sure once he's over the water, he'll be grand if he falls

Bruthal

Tonyandthewhale wrote: »

Also, the guy who smokes regularly has a 50% chance of dying. The guy who climbs the occasional crane on a calm sunny day has an unknown chance of dying but it's probably not as high as 50%

A person who only has one smoke on an occasional calm sunny day will probably not have too much difficulty.

how many free-climbing crane deaths have you heard of.

How many of these crane climbers do you know?
How many smokers do you know?

The smoker however has an almost 100% chance that his quality of life will be impaired by poor lung capacity or foul odour or just from spending all his money on fags.
Crane climber guy benefits from a regular work out and a nice view up until the point where he slips and dies or stops climbing or dies from lung cancer brought on by second hand smoke.

Well if second hand smoke is going to kill us all, then it would seem being a smoker is not a lot more risky than being a non smoker.

Tonyandthewhale wrote: »

Yeah, but the smoker is very likely to die of something relating to smoking, we can't necessarily say the same for crane climbers.

Or base jumers, isle of man tt racers, wingsuit gliding. But it does not mean smoking is more dangerous.

I never said I wouldn't be concerned, I just said I would be more concerned about a child of mine taking up smoking.

If you had a real one, and seen him dangling from that crane, that might be more of a reality check than you seem to believe.

Would you not be concerned if a hypothetical child of yours became addicted to cigarettes?

I would, but would that then mean that I believe smoking is the most dangerous activity known to man?

Unregistered.

Bruthal wrote: »

I would, but would that then mean that I believe smoking is the most dangerous activity known to man?

It is.... In my opinion. So that's a pretty healthy belief to have!

Bruthal

Unregistered. wrote: »

It is.... In my opinion. So that's a pretty healthy belief to have!

To mankind, it may be one of them alright, but to an individual, not really. Id imagine a game of russian roulette once a week would be more dangerous to a man than smoking 40 a day. Not that many would be playing russian roulette though.

Unregistered.

Bruthal wrote: »

To mankind, it may be one of them alright, but to an individual, not really. Id imagine a game of russian roulette once a week would be more dangerous to a man than smoking 40 a day. Not that many would be playing russian roulette though.

I'd imagine a game of Russian roulette once a week would be more dangerous to a man than climbing cranes - so what's your point?

Bruthal

Unregistered. wrote: »

I'd imagine a game of Russian roulette once a week would be more dangerous to a man than climbing cranes - so what's your point?

Whats yours? I think I made my point. Most normal people would be far more horrified to see their teenage son swinging 250 feet up from a crane, than catching them smoking.

But maybe you wouldnt, because you know smoking is more dangerous, probably causing their death in 40 years time, where as on the crane, he will be grand.