rte a waste

cena

Would you consider RTE a waste of TV licence money. They don't even make great TV programming.

shes_crazy

Privatise Montrose. See how long they last against real businesses.

LETHAL LADY

The fella flogging the crap wigs on the late late tonight deserves a kick in the hoop anyway.

paulmclaughlin

**** actors/actresses/tv show hosts.

shruikan2553

I think the wages are more of a waste but I agree, let them be private and see what its like

andy125

Dont watch tv but will be still forced to pay the "broadcast charge"

EoghanIRL

It's a joke . You get charged a tv licence and then they fill the airway with ads .

cena

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

The fella flogging the crap wigs on the late late tonight deserves a kick in the hoop anyway.

I don't watch the late late. Is it crap tonight?

1ZRed

RTE would be a waste even if it was free

o1s1n

I'd rather give my TV license fee to the BBC.

cena

One thing I would like to know is why have we still to pay TV license when rte is sky and we pay enough for sky as it is. Its not even a free view channel on sky.

LETHAL LADY

cena wrote: »

I don't watch the late late. Is it crap tonight?

The show excelled itself in crapness tonight, but I am a creature of habit and watched it anyway.

PizzamanIRL

andy125 wrote: »

Dont watch tv but will be still forced to pay the "broadcast charge"

I thought you don't actually have to pay that.

shruikan2553

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

I thought you don't actually have to pay that.

They were talking of brining it in, have internet? You pay the charge. If they collect it the same way as they collect the tv licence good luck to them.

hfallada

Well apparently for ever €1 in tv licence fees they contribute €2 to the economy. Irish times analysed the report that stated this and it turns out RTE even included staff buying irish made yogurt in the local supermarkets as part of the contribution. But that such RTE thing to do. Message the **** out things so it good for them

Prop Joe

RTE is crap blah blah blah....Next thread "LOVE/HATE" is the best show ever :rolleyes:

Nonoperational

1ZRed wrote: »

RTE would be a waste even if it was free

Harsh to be honest. I'm no huge fan of RTE, but it's the cool thing to say it's **** when to be honest for attempting to provide a complete package to a small country it really isn't all that bad.

Their sports coverage is decent, excellent at times. They cover GAA well, they cover most of the big world sporting events, they have premiership hilights, rugby internationals etc. Their news and currant affairs gets a lot of criticism for being soft on the government, to be honest I don't notice it being much different to the rest. I listen to radio 1 in the car quite a bit and I find it good. Add to that shows like Joe Duffy which, despite being a load of ****e, are an important outlet for a lot of people and I think it does an OK job.

They make a stab at some home-grown entertainment (love-hate being a big success), which is admittedly hit and miss, but there is plenty of that on BBC/ITV etc too. They get their share of US shows like Homeland/The Americans etc...

Dr Turk Turkelton

Out of all the crap i have to pay the one thing that pains me the most is the tv licence to massage these overpaid idiots wages.
RTE say they have to pay it or they will leave-are they for real?What real broadcasting company would take on these idiots like Ryan Tubridy,Marion Finucan or Hector at these wage levels?
I'd say they might get offered 80/100k anywhere else tops yet we pay them multiples of that.
Imagine our licence fee is fairly similar to the UK and the quality of programing the BBC produce is outstanding.I know they have a bigger population hence a lot more money but they don't get ad revenue.
I mean come on they get the likes of Frozen Planet and we get Sheila fupping Sheikh and that mortifying scratch card game on a saturday night!
Rant over I guess i just hate the waste and incompetence from Montrose.

Must add I would have no bother paying the fee if these bumpkins wages were dropped in line with their talent and the money better used for quality programming and not to subsidise staff meals and childcare and two freaking orchestras.:mad:

Panthro

Netflix for the win, whohoo!

Football Friend

Nonoperational wrote: »

Harsh to be honest. I'm no huge fan of RTE, but it's the cool thing to say it's **** when to be honest for attempting to provide a complete package to a small country it really isn't all that bad.

Their sports coverage is decent, excellent at times. They cover GAA well, they cover most of the big world sporting events, they have premiership hilights, rugby internationals etc. Their news and currant affairs gets a lot of criticism for being soft on the government, to be honest I don't notice it being much different to the rest. I listen to radio 1 in the car quite a bit and I find it good. Add to that shows like Joe Duffy which, despite being a load of ****e, are an important outlet for a lot of people and I think it does an OK job.

They make a stab at some home-grown entertainment (love-hate being a big success), which is admittedly hit and miss, but there is plenty of that on BBC/ITV etc too. They get their share of US shows like Homeland/The Americans etc...

Go home Glen Killane, you're drunk.

the vatican king

Cuchulainn1. wrote: »

Out of all the crap i have to pay the one thing that pains me the most is the tv licence to massage these overpaid idiots wages.
RTE say they have to pay it or they will leave-are they for real?What real broadcasting company would take on these idiots like Ryan Tubridy,Marion Finucan or Hector at these wage levels?
I'd say they might get offered 80/100k anywhere else tops yet we pay them multiples of that.
Imagine our licence fee is fairly similar to the UK and the quality of programing the BBC produce is outstanding.I know they have a bigger population hence a lot more money but they don't get ad revenue.
I mean come on they get the likes of Frozen Planet and we get Sheila fupping Sheikh and that mortifying scratch card game on a saturday night!
Rant over I guess i just hate the waste and incompetence from Montrose.

Must add I would have no bother paying the fee if these bumpkins wages were dropped in line with their talent and the money better used for quality programming and not to subsidise staff meals and childcare and two freaking orchestras.:mad:

Agree. I can't believe people actually get sent to jail for not paying tv licences and they're there paying the likes of ryan tubridy 400k +

Yamanoto

cena wrote: »

One thing I would like to know is why have we still to pay TV license when rte is sky and we pay enough for sky as it is. Its not even a free view channel on sky.

Neither are TV3 or TG4.

TV license doesn't fund Sky - You choose to pay a subscription to Sky, as presumably there's something in their package that appeals to you.

RTE services are available with no subscription via an aerial or their own Saorsat service.

RTE negotiate for rights on a ROI basis only. If the signal were broadcast unencrypted, RTE would beam into the UK & beyond and international content providers would demand significantly higher royalties for the purchase of rights to air their shows. Your TV license fee would sky-rocket accordingly.

1ZRed

Nonoperational wrote: »

Harsh to be honest. I'm no huge fan of RTE, but it's the cool thing to say it's **** when to be honest for attempting to provide a complete package to a small country it really isn't all that bad.

Their sports coverage is decent, excellent at times. They cover GAA well, they cover most of the big world sporting events, they have premiership hilights, rugby internationals etc. Their news and currant affairs gets a lot of criticism for being soft on the government, to be honest I don't notice it being much different to the rest. I listen to radio 1 in the car quite a bit and I find it good. Add to that shows like Joe Duffy which, despite being a load of ****e, are an important outlet for a lot of people and I think it does an OK job.

They make a stab at some home-grown entertainment (love-hate being a big success), which is admittedly hit and miss, but there is plenty of that on BBC/ITV etc too. They get their share of US shows like Homeland/The Americans etc...

Nah, it's shít cos it's shít. There's nothing cool about saying something that's blindingly obvious.

They're far too conservative and old fashioned and need to ditch the grannies and get with the times

phonypony

Nonoperational wrote: »

Harsh to be honest. I'm no huge fan of RTE, but it's the cool thing to say it's **** when to be honest for attempting to provide a complete package to a small country it really isn't all that bad.

Their sports coverage is decent, excellent at times. They cover GAA well, they cover most of the big world sporting events, they have premiership hilights, rugby internationals etc. Their news and currant affairs gets a lot of criticism for being soft on the government, to be honest I don't notice it being much different to the rest. I listen to radio 1 in the car quite a bit and I find it good. Add to that shows like Joe Duffy which, despite being a load of ****e, are an important outlet for a lot of people and I think it does an OK job.

They make a stab at some home-grown entertainment (love-hate being a big success), which is admittedly hit and miss, but there is plenty of that on BBC/ITV etc too. They get their share of US shows like Homeland/The Americans etc...

Nah, they're sh!te.

Karl Stein

RTE needs to focus on creating more home-grown programming and spending less on wages and rubbish from the US and UK that most people can get for free anyway.

The Backwards Man

Bring back Bosco!!

Nabber

They should provide more opportunities for young actors. The wages is also a big issue. It's also a service you have to pay for, whether you use it or not.

My sons friend's parents don't have a tv, they watch DVDs on the PC. They had to pay their license fee because 'it's available to them'

TV license is just another stealth tax.

Why have so many news readers?

They waste the TV tax to justify it.

Sergeant

I like their Documentaries on One radio series. Very entertaining. Don't see how something like this would be covered by a private broadcaster. I also admire their impartiality. They don't always get it right, but it's an impossible task to present a show that doesn't offend someone. Usually the type of morons who exist on being in a state of perpetual outrage.

Having to pay a licence fee to support a public service broadcaster really doesn't bother me that much. I think they do more good than bad considering their limited resources.

Samsgirl

The amount of repeats on RTE is shocking. They were ****e the first time around. Please don't inflict them on us again. As for the Late Late... Utter tripe. Just let it go RTE.. Use our license fee to entertain us please!

kneemos

Samsgirl wrote: »

The amount of repeats on RTE is shocking. They were ****e the first time around. Please don't inflict them on us again. As for the Late Late... Utter tripe. Just let it go RTE.. Use our license fee to entertain us please!

I think The Late Late is like Mass people feel obliged to watch it.

endacl

While RTE do a lot of crap telly, they don't just do crap telly. As opposed to the likes of TV3 for example, who take crap telly to previously unimagined levels of crapness.

They do some other worthwhile stuff too. RTÉ National Symphony Orchestra, the RTÉ Vanbrugh Quartet, the RTÉ Concert Orchestra, RTÉ Cór na nÓg and the RTÉ Philharmonic Choir. Lots of people employed here, and they seem to at least break even.

Radio one, 2fm, Lyric fm.

Not everybody's cup of tea, of course, but they do more than Fair City, and a lot of it they do very well.

Nearly every post has been about d'telly. There's more to RTE than d'telly, and in fairness folks, there's more to life than d'telly.

Sergeant

kneemos wrote: »

I think The Late Late is like Mass people feel obliged to watch it.

Any suggestions as to how we can enlighten the Plain People of Ireland?

Jimoslimos

shes_crazy wrote: »

Privatise Montrose. See how long they last against real businesses.

Like TV3?

They could show The Angelus 24/7 on RTÉ and it would still be better than any of the tripe shown on TV3.

Lenin Skynard

They could certainly be scaled down. While I think they do a great job of sports coverage and (some) current affairs, they undo their good work by putting shows like "Show me the bedsit renovation" and "How Clean is Amanda Brunker's Garden". These are the shows they put in their prime time slots while huge shows like Sons of Anarchy and The Wire fester in a RTE 2 graveyard slot at 2am.

TV3 doesn't cover itself in glory either but it has shown that a private broadcaster is feasible in Ireland, the current RTE model is completely unrealistic.

DEFTLEFTHAND

RTE provide a decent service to many Irish people, they're not a waste money, not everybody has internet connection or is computer savy. The young freepups sometimes forget this.

REXER

Is that you Pat/Ryan /Marion/Hector???

It would probably be a lot more cost effective to provide the PC hardware, broadband and computer literacy training then!

rahmalec

Tbh I find rte a million times better than the vast majority of channels on sky/UPC, so don't mind the charge. Plus it helps get me some extra work every now and then :-)

kneemos

An organisation that gives Hector a job and pays Marion half a million for occasionally showing up is either pampered out of reality or management are all work experience trainees.

matTNT

Of course you have to pay the broadcast charge, included in that is internet use etc..
RTE could spend some of their money more wisely but both RTE TV & Radio do deliver a wide range of services that are necessary for a country. Current affairs coverage is suberb on News now and radio.
Sports wise they are average I wish they had the Heineken Cup/Lions tour though.
Drama is pretty good Love/Hate + Raw supplemented with some decent foreign shows Revenge/The Good Wife etc.
Could do a little better on the comedy front shows like How I met your mother would be good etc..

Now it's true that some within RTE are overpayed, but it's a culture that is dying out...they can't just slash wages of their top earners.

KyussBishop

The TV License is transforming into an Internet Tax now; they're still calling it a 'broadcasting charge' or whatever, but that is bullshít, it's an Internet tax.

If they are going to tax the Internet, then scrap RTE and give us a national broadband network (will give us something actually useful for the money then); if they are taxing Internet usage, then bloody use it to provide that as a service.

the purple tin

I'd be happy if they stopped pissing public money against the wall. Its not just the broadcasters who are raking it in, RTE employees behind the scenes are as well.

Arpa

I was flicking over last night and caught a glimpse of Anne Doyle on the late late...my heart sank. She was a news reader who retired a year ago and for some reason they thought she would be a good guest. Unless she has contracted some std by shagging a monkey in the Congo I can't see what she has done in the past year since they had a big farewell party for her that would be of merit to warrant an appearance on a chat show. I give up. That's what we're paying for. Tubridy get's an exorbitant salary to interview his retired colleagues and we're expected to say, "Ah sure isn't Anne lovely."

If it continues like this they will never see a cent from me, broadcast charge or whatever they want to call it.

Bits_n_Bobs

Without the license fee
1)RTE would not be able to pay Joe Duffy his monstrous wages
2) Without Joe liveline would not be made.
3) Without liveline there would be no liveline thread
4) Without a liveline thread boards would have to close

That is the only logical and rational argument for paying a license fee.

kneemos

Arpa wrote: »

I was flicking over last night and caught a glimpse of Anne Doyle on the late late...my heart sank. She was a news reader who retired a year ago and for some reason they thought she would be a good guest. Unless she has contracted some std by shagging a monkey in the Congo I can't see what she has done in the past year since they had a big farewell party for her that would be of merit to warrant an appearance on a chat show. I give up. That's what we're paying for. Tubridy get's an exorbitant salary to interview his retired colleagues and we're expected to say, "Ah sure isn't Anne lovely."

If it continues like this they will never see a cent from me, broadcast charge or whatever they want to call it.

Anytime I come across it there's a cancer victim on,Ann Doyle would be a bonus for that show.

elefant

Living with Lucy.




Enough said.

kneemos

Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »

Without the license fee
1)RTE would not be able to pay Joe Duffy his monstrous wages
2) Without Joe liveline would not be made.
3) Without liveline there would be no liveline thread
4) Without a liveline thread boards would have to close

That is the only logical and rational argument for paying a license fee.

Hope his mother doesn't see that.

dirtyden

the purple tin wrote: »

I'd be happy if they stopped pissing public money against the wall. Its not just the broadcasters who are raking it in, RTE employees behind the scenes are as well.

This is a good point. The vast number of RTE producers versus actual programming output makes very little sense, and these producers are very well paid.

That said RTE are not bad. Their news and current affairs coverage is generally decent as is the sport coverage. They have made some decent drama (some absolute shockers too). I have no problem with the license fee but I would like to see it better spent. Id love to see the breankdown of what portion salary costs in their overall spend.

Weevil

KyussBishop wrote: »

The TV License is transforming into an Internet Tax now; they're still calling it a 'broadcasting charge' or whatever, but that is bullshít, it's an Internet tax.

If they are going to tax the Internet, then scrap RTE and give us a national broadband network (will give us something actually useful for the money then); if they are taxing Internet usage, then bloody use it to provide that as a service.

It's not even an Internet charge that they are proposing. It will be assumed that you have access to some form of visual external communication and are therefore liable for the tax. It will be up to you to prove otherwise.

Derpington95

The only thing half worth watching on RTE is Sharon Ní Bheoláin.

lycan238

Ok lets be serious here for a moment.

We pay €3.08 a week for access to a website that is kept up to date with news stories from around the world, sports coverage* that is very good to excellent especially GAA Hurling and LOI, shows like Love/Hate, Raw and indeed Liveline on the radio.

In fairness for 3.08** euro a week I think that is excellent value for money.

* indeed outside of the listed sports improvements could be made.
** You have the option of paying €13.13 a month instead of the €160 up front.

blueser

kneemos wrote: »

I think The Late Late is like Mass people feel obliged to watch it.

Speak for yourself.

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Like TV3?

They could show The Angelus 24/7 on RTÉ and it would still be better than any of the tripe shown on TV3.

Ssshhh; don't give them ideas.

kneemos wrote: »

An organisation that gives Hector a job and pays Marion half a million for occasionally showing up is either pampered out of reality or management are all work experience trainees.

Possibly the most over-rated ''personality'' on Irish TV.

Derpington95 wrote: »

The only thing half worth watching on RTE is Sharon Ní Bheoláin.

Grainne Seoige!