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Who will be Irish Captain under Joe Schmidt?

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  • 15-05-2013 2:59pm
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    Ruck Inspector
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    Who do you think Joe will pick as captain for Ireland?

    Who do you think Joe will pick as captain for Ireland? 180 votes

    Rory Best
    0% 0 votes
    Jamie Heaslip
    6% 12 votes
    Paul O'Connell
    66% 119 votes
    Brian O'Driscoll
    27% 49 votes


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    trouttrout
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    Big fan of starting threads eh?!

    POC for me, not contest really


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    thomond2006
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    Jo...you know the rest.


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    CGD
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    He will stay with Heaslip, why change and cause more contreversy and dis illusion a player. He isn't Kidney you know:)


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    KERSPLAT!
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    He'll stay with Heaslip I reckon


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    rrpc
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    Two of the choices are in the closing stages of their careers and another isn't automatic first choice in his position, so it looks like the poll is heavily skewed towards Jamie Heaslip*.









    *I don't really have a problem with that


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    Buer
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    I doubt a change will even be considered let alone made. Heaslip is the man in place. He has been Schmidt's captain at Leinster for many games. The other contenders are well down the road and close to retirement.


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    ambid
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    Depends on fitness. If POC is likely to miss much time with injuries he may stick with Heaslip. Otherwise I imagine he'll be keen to avoid the impression of a Leinster bias.


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    Ruck Inspector
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    rrpc wrote: »
    Two of the choices are in the closing stages of their careers and another isn't automatic first choice in his position, so it looks like the poll is heavily skewed towards Jamie Heaslip*.


    *I don't really have a problem with that

    Just thought these four were the only realistic options?


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    Tox56
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    Yeah Heaslip has been Schmidt's choice when there is no Cullen, even if BOD is on the field, so I doubt BOD will come into the equation


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    rrpc
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    Ruck Inspector wrote: »
    Just thought these four were the only realistic options?
    Which kind of means that there aren't any other options right now. That's the way I see it too.


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    Otacon
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    Who do I think should be Irish captain? O'Connell

    Who do I think Schmidt will choose? Heaslip

    Whoever he goes with, I don't see it making much of a difference to the team or their performance.


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    trouttrout
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    I'd have POC to lead us to 2015 with a view to Heaslip taking over then but I'd have no problem with sticking with Heaslip


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    tolosenc
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    Heaslip should be captain, and Heaslip will be captain.


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    vienne86
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    I reckon he will stick with Heaslip. I doubt he would have got rid of BOD, but I don't think he will re-instate him either. Heaslip is obviously going to be around for a while, whereas the other three have all had injury woes in the last year, and may have more.


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    Buer
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    trouttrout wrote: »
    I'd have POC to lead us to 2015 with a view to Heaslip taking over then but I'd have no problem with sticking with Heaslip

    If POC was going to take over (and I wouldn't make that call), I wouldn't give it to Heaslip. It would be a 36 year old finishing up and a 32 year old taking over. Although I'm sure POC will be intending to play until then, there's far from any guarantee that he won't ship another significant injury and have to call it a day.

    I'd look to give it to someone like POM after 2015 if he has continued to progress as he has.


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    seanmacc
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    I reckon he will stick with Heaslip. I doubt he would have got rid of BOD, but I don't think he will re-instate him either. Heaslip is obviously going to be around for a while, whereas the other three have all had injury woes in the last year, and may have more.

    I'd say BOD would of taken a back seat himself. I'd say he probably would of wanted to take a back seat position last season but Mr. Kidney took that decision away from him.

    Now that he's not captain he'll have more of a chance to focus on his own game anyway.


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    Fireball07
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    I think POC is probably the best captain, but with an uncertain injury record, I wouldn't be surprised if he stuck with Heaslip.

    I think Heaslip was the logical choice at the time, I do think he's a good captain.


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    PhatPiggins
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    Would he make Heaslip Irish captain if he's never trusted him to be the Leinster captain?

    Rory Best should get it for playing and political reasons.


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    .ak
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    PhatPiggins wrote: »
    Would he make Heaslip Irish captain if he's never trusted him to be the Leinster captain?

    Rory Best should get it for playing and political reasons.

    He has? He's made Heaslip captain when Leo isn't available.


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    its_phil
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    PhatPiggins wrote: »
    Would he make Heaslip Irish captain if he's never trusted him to be the Leinster captain?

    Rory Best should get it for playing and political reasons.

    He has trusted Heaslip many times. Leinster have lost one game while Heaslip was captain against Clermont in the Aviva.

    For playing reasons? He's not even assured of his place with Strauss there and political reasons? WTF are those?


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    Grimebox
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    ambid wrote: »
    Depends on fitness. If POC is likely to miss much time with injuries he may stick with Heaslip. Otherwise I imagine he'll be keen to avoid the impression of a Leinster bias.

    I imagine this won't even be close to his selection thought process


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    wicklowwonder
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    Heaslip is the man in possession and there is no reason to take it off him. I can see Matt O'Connor giving him the job next year with Leinster as well.


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    jamiedav2011
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    PhatPiggins wrote: »
    Would he make Heaslip Irish captain if he's never trusted him to be the Leinster captain?

    Rory Best should get it for playing and political reasons.

    Based on what?!


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    jamiedav2011
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    wicklowwonder wrote: »
    Heaslip is the man in possession and there is no reason to take it off him. I can see Matt O'Connor giving him the job next year with Leinster as well.

    Don't think so, I reckon Leo will stay as captain as Jamie will be away for vast chunks of the year.

    Similar to reasons Howlett was captain for Munster this year.


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    wicklowwonder
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    jamiedav2011 wrote: »
    Don't think so, I reckon Leo will stay as captain as Jamie will be away for vast chunks of the year.

    Similar to reasons Howlett was captain for Munster this year.

    Leo will surely be only to play 50% of games next year at most with age...


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    ambid wrote: »
    Depends on fitness. If POC is likely to miss much time with injuries he may stick with Heaslip. Otherwise I imagine he'll be keen to avoid the impression of a Leinster bias.

    This would be evidence of bias.

    Bias means that he would make any decision whatsoever based on the fact that Heaslip was a Leinster player under him.

    If he made the decision that he couldn't choose a Leinster player as captain that is a biased decision.

    Instead what we want is him simply not to factor into the decision that fact.


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    SkadooshJ
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    I think he will change it and someone will get it that nobody expects.


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    #29
    wicklowwonder
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    SkadooshJ wrote: »
    I think he will change it and someone will get it that nobody expects.

    Stephen Archer...


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    jamiedav2011
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    wicklowwonder wrote: »
    Leo will surely be only to play 50% of games next year at most with age...

    Well he played the majority of games this year, and has looked fine, so don't think that's a concern.

    The fact that Mike Mac is there might relegate him slightly, however you'd have Jenno to step in as captain in that case.


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    Fireball07
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    jamiedav2011 wrote: »
    Well he played the majority of games this year, and has looked fine, so don't think that's a concern.

    The fact that Mike Mac is there might relegate him slightly, however you'd have Jenno to step in as captain in that case.

    There is a possibility that in a fully first-choice Leinster team that neither Cullen or Jennings would be starting? Suppose it depends on how O'Connor sees them but I also wouldn't be surprised if there was a change there.


    Still though, Heaslip is as closed to a nailed-on starter with Ireland as anyone...and has an excellent injury record, plus leadership qualities. It'd make sense to keep him.


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