Andrew Mcguinness - Thoughts

ayatollah

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/son-of-dail-spending-chief-earned-30k-in-overtime-with-dad-29263855.html

Captain Havoc

Politician does politician stuff.

Sky King

Anyone else remember Kilkenny's answer to TK Maxx back in the day?

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redtelephone

John McGuinness is no different to any politician although he tries to give the impression that he has integrity. He talks the talk but when it comes to walking the walk, it's a different story. Blatant nepotism was, and is, part and parcel of politics in this country. We get what we deserve.

silverbirch66

Does'nt surprise me,tbh.
I wont be voting for him in the next election or future ones(I have done in the past)
As for the heir apparent,I will wait until he comes out with a statement over this before I make my mind up.Im not liking what Im seeing though...

But from what I've read,It has all the hallmarks of a type of behaviour that people of this country have very, very little time for.
I would have thought the younger wave of buckos coming up would be more savvy to this auld craic and how it looks.

Benny Cake

Doesn't surprise me one bit. Cant say I've lost respect for the guy because i never had any to start with. I doubt he's even embarrassed by this, neck like a jockeys bol1x....

Threadhead

Great quality jeans altogether. Bargain prices. Aftershave was good too.

road_high

I dunno, they just remind me of the mafia. They play the game very well indeed while looking after number 1 all the time i.e the McGuinness family.

Sky King

Threadhead wrote: »

Great quality jeans altogether. Bargain prices. Aftershave was good too.

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road_high

Sky King wrote: »

Anyone else remember Kilkenny's answer to TK Maxx back in the day?

Top Brands at low low prices!

What was this?

Sky King

road_high wrote: »

What was this?

http://forum.rspwfaq.net/file/n34/319.jpg

barneygumble99

ayatollah wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/son-of-dail-spending-chief-earned-30k-in-overtime-with-dad-29263855.html

I'm surprised the newspaper were able to find any photo of him on file actually, he is the keyser soze of Kilkenny. Never knew what he looked like until I read that article.

misterdeeds

Sky King wrote: »

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The shoes were not bad at all so they were :-)

JohnMc1

redtelephone wrote: »

John McGuinness is no different to any politician although he tries to give the impression that he has integrity. He talks the talk but when it comes to walking the walk, it's a different story. Blatant nepotism was, and is, part and parcel of politics in this country. We get what we deserve.

This is why I can't stand them anymore. John talks a good game down here and tries to act like a "Man on the People" but its very obvious he's not. Its no surprise his son is the exact same way.

I said to my parents that the McGuinness were they see themselves as the Irish equivalent of the Kennedy family [where they every Political position as their destiny and God given right] Looks I wasn't far off from that assessment.

Mankbag

It had to happen, didn't it? The self-appointed scourge of waste in the public service finally gets his wings clipped. Turns out the fearless defender of free enterprise was doing quite well from state funds, he and his son.

I feel slightly sorry for poor Andrew, who seems a decent (if not overly bright) sort and does work hard.

Haven't seen the local rags yet, but I've no doubt John will be screaming blue murder and claiming he's being stitched up because of his fearlessness, independence, courage etc. Presumably his media puppet Jim Rhatigan, if he's not too busy writing about dogs, will have a long column singing his praises.

Hail 2 Da Thief

I'm shocked by this piece of news :rolleyes:

Sky King

Mankbag wrote: »

Presumably his media puppet Jim Rhatigan, if he's not too busy writing about dogs, will have a long column singing his praises.

Dogs that drink pints, specifically.

Back years ago.

'The McGuiness Household Always Wins'

The follow up to the award winning 'The House Always Wins' by the award winning politician and champion of the people John McGuiness.

DerryRed

I've had dealings with Andrew in the past via my capacity as a committee member on a residents association (not in the same estate that Andrew lives). On quite a few occasions Andrew was asked to attend meetings as a representative of his father's office, to give advice and/or assistance on a particular issue. Our meetings were in the evening, as committee members had day jobs, and that was the only time we could meet.

Would attendance at these types of meetings entitle him to claim overtime expenses? Simply asking as I'm not overly familiar with the political system and trying to understand when there is an entitlement to claim overtime. If I look at my own job (in the private sector), if I work outside the hours of 9-5.30, then I'm entitled to claim for overtime pay.

Mankbag

Sky King wrote: »

Dogs that drink pints, specifically.

Back years ago.

V good!

Mankbag

Davidian_ie wrote: »

'The McGuiness Household Always Wins'

The follow up to the award winning 'The House Always Wins' by the award winning politician and champion of the people John McGuiness.

Also v good!

Threadhead

Nice to see the local media have finally picked up on this 9 days after it broke.

Still no comment from the man who claimed for 977 hours and 25 weeks overtime whilst claiming €13,000 in travel expenses despite not having a desk in Dublin.

http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/local/mcguinness-under-pressure-to-comment-on-expenses-1-5114883

El Inho

Would like to hope it knocks him down a peg. But it won't.

kk23

if its public money surely the citizens have a right to know where the money goes, its not a secret is it? notice a few very active members on this forum suspiciously quiet on this one?

Mankbag

I note Andrew didn't even have the gumption to brazen it out in the Kilkenny People. Naturally his father's media puppet didn't mention a word about it all in the Reporter.

Threadhead

Mankbag wrote: »

I note Andrew didn't even have the gumption to brazen it out in the Kilkenny People. Naturally his father's media puppet didn't mention a word about it all in the Reporter.

If Andrew spent all his overtime with a dog who drank pints, there'd be wall to wall coverage in the Reporter.

nerosaxo

https://www.facebook.com/AndrewMcguinnessNeedsAHoliday?hc_location=stream

JohnMc1

Did you guys see today's Independant? Now John is rushing to little Andrew's aid claiming Andrew was using his desk and this nothing but petty revenge for his book. What a Narcissistic idiot.

Benny Cake

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Did you guys see today's Independant? Now John is rushing to little Andrew's aid claiming Andrew was using his desk and this nothing but petty revenge for his book. What a Narcissistic idiot.

Apples falling from trees springs to mind with these two....

Sky King

Surely paying somebody overtime is not a very cost-effective way of covering a maternity leave?

Threadhead

In most other European countries, these clowns would have been out on their arses years ago but the game being played right now is 'Wait for it to blow over' and that is exactly what's going to happen. It always does.

JohnMc1

Threadhead wrote: »

In most other European countries, these clowns would have been out on their arses years ago but the game being played right now is 'Wait for it to blow over' and that is exactly what's going to happen. It always does.

The sad reality is that the McGuinness' would be pounding the war drums if this was any other TD.

redtelephone

JohnMc1 wrote: »

The sad reality is that the McGuinness' would be pounding the war drums if this was any other TD.

That's true. A brasser neck than Brian Brass of Brasscastle!

Cabaal

Threadhead wrote: »

In most other European countries, these clowns would have been out on their arses years ago but the game being played right now is 'Wait for it to blow over' and that is exactly what's going to happen. It always does.

You think "odd" goings in don't happen in other countries?

You've only to look at Italy to see examples of somebody who took the piss and can still get elected.

Other EU countries are no different, I'd suggest removing those rose tinted glasses ;-)

Threadhead

That's entirely valid, true, but my point was more to do with how we'll complain about it and do very little whereas in a lot of countries, they're a little more proactive about how they demonstrate. In this case, you can't imagine that people will be besieging the Town Hall demanding answers.

Although, Andrew is playing a free gig in Ryans this Saturday night. Wonder if he takes requests?

barneygumble99

Threadhead wrote: »

That's entirely valid, true, but my point was more to do with how we'll complain about it and do very little whereas in a lot of countries, they're a little more proactive about how they demonstrate. In this case, you can't imagine that people will be besieging the Town Hall demanding answers.

Although, Andrew is playing a free gig in Ryans this Saturday night. Wonder if he takes requests?

Im sure his own personal newspaper the Kilkenny reporter, will request a few pictures but he'll probably turn them down.

timmykgb

I'm not addressing the issue of the overtime.

Just in response to the ever popular cries of 'political dynasties'... don't we do the voting? Anyone can run for election... it doesn't really matter if the last three generations of the candidate has been elected before or if the candidate doesn't have any political family background, they are entitled to run and it's up to us to decide who is elected. I do think if it runs in the family you have more experience of it and may be better equipped to contend for election, but also it's not too unlike other families who may have a butcher shop or be an electrician, the off spring often follow in the footsteps of their parents... and it's harder for a candidate running for election because they have to earn their position through your votes, which of course is only right, you should not automatically become a cllr or TD just because your parent was, but at the other extreme you should not be put down because your parent is a politician if you want to run for election. I guess at the end of the day if people do have a reason, no matter how unreasonable, that someone running for election should not be elected just because his father before him was a politician... well then get off your arses and vote for someone else. Don't be cribbing afterwards.

Also, when it comes to employing from within the family when one is elected, I have no real problem with this for the most part, as it is usually members of your family that have been helping you all along down the years, for no pay, all times of the day and night. And who would you trust more than a member of your family who are available at any time and know the routine and work that needs to be done inside out. They are usually best suited for the job, if the position is there someone is going to get paid for it so why not the best suited candidate?

These are just my views. I'm not a politician, never been one, don't intend on being one, never been active in a party and have voted for different parties in the past. My constituency is in Kerry.

Tim

catbear

All very valid points Tim, the people get the government it deserves. But we don't live in feudal times anymore and hereditary jobs aren't expected elsewhere yet acceptable practice in public representation. Why is that?

NotCarrotRidge

catbear wrote: »

All very valid points Tim, the people get the government it deserves. But we don't live in feudal times anymore and hereditary jobs aren't expected elsewhere yet acceptable practice in public representation. Why is that?

In fairness to Tim, I don't think he knows! I certainly don't, but nevertheless, that seems to be what we the people want; children 'inheriting' their parents' seats.