NFL Betting Thread - 2013/2014

Paully D

Early I know, but I'm going to kick this betting thread off now that bookmakers have priced up divisions, conferences, championships etc.

First off is the Super Bowl winner prices:



The full list is available here.

Next we have conference winner prices:





The full lists are available here - AFC and NFC

Division winner prices:

AFC:




NFC:





Also, Vegas (Cantor Gaming) has released the points spreads for weeks 1 through 16. It's fun to have a look through and see who you feel is being overvalued and undervalued. The full list is available here and the week 1 point spreads along with a team-by-team breakdown are below:



Week 1 spreads:

Baltimore Ravens at Denver Broncos -7
New England Patriots -7 at Buffalo Bills
Tennessee Titans at Pittsburgh Steelers -7
Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints -1.5
Tampa Bay Buccaneers -1.5 at New York Jets
Kansas City Chiefs -3 at Jacksonville Jaguars
Cincinnati Bengals at Chicago Bears -3
Miami Dolphins -1.5 at Cleveland Browns
Seattle Seahawks -3.5 at Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings at Detroit Lions -2.5
Oakland Raiders at Indianapolis Colts -7
Arizona Cardinals at St. Louis Rams -4.5
Green Bay Packers at San Francisco 49ers -4
New York Giants at Dallas Cowboys -2.5
Philadelphia Eagles at Washington Redskins -4.5
Houston Texans -3 at San Diego Chargers

Best of luck to all and happy punting!

Pudsy33

Baltimore Ravens at Denver Broncos -7
New England Patriots -7 at Buffalo Bills
Tennessee Titans at Pittsburgh Steelers -7
Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints -1.5
Tampa Bay Buccaneers -1.5 at New York Jets
Kansas City Chiefs -3 at Jacksonville Jaguars
Cincinnati Bengals at Chicago Bears -3
Miami Dolphins -1.5 at Cleveland Browns
Seattle Seahawks -3.5 at Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings at Detroit Lions -2.5
Oakland Raiders at Indianapolis Colts -7
Arizona Cardinals at St. Louis Rams -4.5
Green Bay Packers at San Francisco 49ers -4
New York Giants at Dallas Cowboys -2.5
Philadelphia Eagles at Washington Redskins -4.5
Houston Texans -3 at San Diego Chargers

Best of luck to all and happy punting![/CENTER][/QUOTE]

The teams in bold jump out at me in week 1. Can't wait for the season. NFL is by far my most profitable sport too

Paully D

I think it'll be 49ers or Seahawks winning the Super Bowl this year so prices of 8/1 and 9/1 respectively appeal to me there.

Very interesting to note that the bookies can't split Baltimore, Pittsburgh or Cincinnati in the AFC North. That looks set to be hugely tight this year but I'm going to have to stick with Baltimore winning it until Dalton proves a little bit more to me. Ruling out the Steelers could come back to bite me on the arse but I have them ranked below the Ravens and Bengals this season. Can't really argue with the other AFC division prices as the Patriots, Texans and Broncos should all win their divisions although the Colts should come closest to upsetting the apple cart. In the NFC there's some value especially in the south. Saints should do much better this year but Atlanta are still a bit ahead for me and evens is an attractive price.

My ante-post picks:

San Francisco 49ers to win the Super Bowl 8/1
Seattle Seahawks to win the Super Bowl 9/1

Baltimore Ravens to win the AFC North 19/10
Atlanta Falcons to win the NFC South 1/1

Glancing through those weeks 1-16 point spreads and at the minute I think the Rams and Browns are very undervalued over the course of the season and on the opposite end of the scale I think the Lions and Steelers are being overvalued over the course of the season.

If I was to pick week 1 bets now favourites I'd like are the Chiefs (-3) at Jacksonville, Tampa Bay (-1.5) at Jets and Seattle (-3.5) at Carolina. Dogs I'd like would be Browns (+1.5) vs Miami and Bengals (+3) at Bears. It'll be interesting to see if that changes over the next few months!

adrian522

Saints to win the nfc at 10/1 seems generous. I'll also have my annual bet on the 49ers for the superbowl, plus the over on season wins which is currently 11.5.

eagle eye

adrian522 wrote: »

Saints to win the nfc at 10/1 seems generous. I'll also have my annual bet on the 49ers for the superbowl, plus the over on season wins which is currently 11.5.

2/1 to win their division is awesome imo. Its the one that stood out to me and a long way ahead of the rest.

padraig_f

What's up guys?

Just having a look at some season win totals. I don't put big money on these (prefer week-to-week betting), but just kind of useful to see where the bookies stand in the pre-season compared to your own opinions.

Still forming my opinions on these, watching pre-season games etc., so don't have any strong leans at the moment. Bookies over-under is quoted first (bwin.com), number of games the team won last season in brackets.

Think it's still kind of useful to have the rough numbers in your head as you watch pre-season games. e.g. I think the Bengals' number (8.5) should be higher, so I'll probably watch them this weekend.


NFC East
Giants 8.5 (9)
Cowboys 8.5 (8)
Eagles 7.5 (4)
Redskins 7.5 (10)

NFC West
49ers 11.5 (11)
Seahawks 10.5 (11)
Rams 7.5 (7)
Cardinals 5.5 (5)

NFC North
Packers 10.5 (11)
Bears 8.5 (10)
Lions 7.5 (4)
Vikings 7.5 (10)

NFC South
Falcons 9.5 (13)
Saints 9.5 (7)
Panthers 7.5 (7)
Bucs 7.5 (7)


AFC East
Patriots 11.5 (12)
Dolphins 7.5 (7)
Jets 6.5 (6)
Bills 6.5 (6)

AFC West
Broncos 11.5 (13)
Chiefs 7.5 (2)
Chargers 7.5 (7)
Raiders 5.5 (4)

AFC North
Steelers 9.5 (8)
Ravens 8.5 (10)
Bengals 8.5 (10)
Browns 6.5 (5)

AFC South
Texans 10.5 (12)
Colts 8.5 (11)
Titans 6.5 (6)
Jags 5.5 (2)

SantryRed

Lions under 7.5 wins is like buying money to me. I just don't see how they do any better than 6-10, and even that is being generous. I think Schwartz will be sacked before the end of the season.

matthew8

SantryRed wrote: »

Lions under 7.5 wins is like buying money to me. I just don't see how they do any better than 6-10, and even that is being generous. I think Schwartz will be sacked before the end of the season.

Can't write them off. If Stafford returns to 2011 form they easily beat 6-10. I think he has the class to do so. Bush might save him from throwing too much as well. They were 3-8 in 1 score games which should get better. The free money for me there is the Falcons over, but the odds are probably a bit shorter than evens. Under on the Raiders looks nice too.

padraig_f

Lean to over...Cardinals (5.5). Had a look at them last night, offense was looking half-decent with Carson Palmer throwing to Larry Fitzgerald, which would be a big improvement on last year.

UnitedIrishman

Ones I'd be looking at there would be Jets (under) - they still have Sanchez at QB, Revis is gone, Holmes still out and they're struggling all over the place.

And Bengals to go over. Ravens are rebuilding somewhat still and they picked up some good wins last year. Eifert and Bernard have looked the part in preseason and Harrison will be out to kill everything that comes near him this season!

Paully D

Raiders under 5.5 wins is extremely attractive IMO. Printing money.

Hulk Hands

Vikings +3.5 points in week one at the Lions. That line says the Lions are at least .5 points a better side, when there is no way that they are. The Vikings made the playoffs last year while the Lions struggled. Vikes also did the double over them. In early season the run is slightly more important than usual as the passing game often isn't fully in sync. Also, i'm presuming they gave 3 points to the Lions here for home advantage, when it probably isnt worth that being a not particularly loud dome which the Vikings would be quite used to from their own field, and playing at Ford field every year and even having a home game there recently. This line should be -1 or so

Hulk Hands

That mustve been an an error on Youwin's part give that they're back to 6/4 the pair on the NFC South market. 9/5 with Coral on the Saints is slightly tempting but there's not a whole pile of margin there. Falcons have to be favs and I wouldn't be too happy laying that 6/4 on them either.

11/4 on the Ravens to win their division looks to be underrating them also. I'd be surprised if the Bengals have enough yet to take that crown. 11/4 to probably beat the Steelers in that division, that looks way wrong. The 2/1 generally look right.

Pity you can't put on multiples. You'll see worse 1/4 shots than Denver and NE every day of the week

Edit: You can place multiples with Youwin, happy days . Ravens, Pats, Broncos and Packers accum, pays over 15/2.

D3PO

some nice odds there. Think I will have a punt on the following €20 per bet

Divisional Winners

Bengals 15/8
Eagles 5/1
Bucs 5/1

Week 1 bets

Pats -7
Bucs -1.5
Chiefs -3
Seahawks -3.5

Justin10

Surely Keenan Allen is fantastic value for offensive rookie of the year at 50/1
Rated by a lot of people as the best receiver in the draft.

Will start in San Diego imo beating out Eddie Royal, even if he dont, Flloyd will probably not play all the time.

Has looked good all pre season.

Off topic but who would you guys fancy for the Hesimann. Clowney at 14/1 I like but I think Miller at Ohio will have a really good year.

Paully D

And we're off with the week one spreads set. Odds from Paddy Power:

Ravens (+9) @ Broncos

Patriots (-10) @ Bills
Titans (+7) @ Steelers
Falcons (+3) @ Saints
Bucs (-3) @ Jets
Chiefs (-3.5) @ Jags
Bengals (+3) @ Bears
Dolphins (+1) @ Browns
Seahawks (-3) @ Panthers
Vikings (+4.5) @ Lions
Raiders (+9.5) @ Colts
Cardinals (+4.5) @ Rams
Packers (+4.5) @ 49ers

Giants (+3) @ Cowboys

Eagles (+3.5) @ Redskins
Texans (-3) @ Chargers

So, who do you like this week? I'm not a huge fan of betting on the first week as it's hard to gauge things until a few weeks in, but looking at the spreads I like the Ravens, Falcons, Colts, Bengals, Bucs, Browns, Redskins and Texans.

I'll probably look into it more during the week and do the three I like most in a treble, along with a very small bet on all 8 at 170/1.

Hulk Hands

Vikings now +5.5 with Boyles. Completely stupid line that's basically saying that a 4-12 side from last year are 2.5-3 points better than a 10-6 side, despite the 10-6 side doing the double over them and having an excellent record against them. You could argue that the Vikings had the more productive off season also and Stafford has been horribly off form in pre-season. Hard to understand that one. I'll be all over the Vikings +5.5 and at 2/1 with Boyles, who seem to be taking a view all of their own.

Elsewhere, I think the 4/6 on the Bears to beat the Bengals at Soilder field is very fair, again with Boyles. May be a close one but very hard to see the Bears not coming out on the right side

Lionbacker

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Vikings now +5.5 with Boyles. Completely stupid line that's basically saying that a 4-12 side from last year are 2.5-3 points better than a 10-6 side, despite the 10-6 side doing the double over them and having an excellent record against them. You could argue that the Vikings had the more productive off season also and Stafford has been horribly off form in pre-season. Hard to understand that one. I'll be all over the Vikings +5.5 and at 2/1 with Boyles, who seem to be taking a view all of their own.

Maybe the bookies don't see AP repeating what he did last season & still don't trust Ponder to win the game with his arm.
Whereas the Lions had a record that everyone seems to realise wasn't representitive of the talent there & now they supposedly have decent running game with Bush, to go along with the passing attack.

Although I completely agree with you on Staffords form this preseason. He's been awful. If he continues that way against the Vikes, the Lions lose. If he does well, I think the Lions are well capable of winning.

Hulk Hands

I fully agree that the Lions are capable of winning, I have them as slight favs and see them as more likely to win than not at home. It's just that the Vikings shouldn't be 2/1, or given a 5.5 headstart in a match bet. When the Vikings beat the Lions last year, AP wasn't in full swing for the first game and Ponder was terrible in both. They won both due to superior defense and special teams, something which hasn't changed in the off season. Like I said, game will be very close, I just can't see why the line is saying the Lions are so much better than the Vikes

UnitedIrishman

If Tuel starts for the Bills, I'm all over the Pats with the handicap.

Kansas -3.5 against the Chiefs too and the Rams.

Lionbacker

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I fully agree that the Lions are capable of winning, I have them as slight favs and see them as more likely to win than not at home. It's just that the Vikings shouldn't be 2/1, or given a 5.5 headstart in a match bet. When the Vikings beat the Lions last year, AP wasn't in full swing for the first game and Ponder was terrible in both. They won both due to superior defense and special teams, something which hasn't changed in the off season. Like I said, game will be very close, I just can't see why the line is saying the Lions are so much better than the Vikes

Well the Lions do have a better defensive line this time round & the special teams seems to have improved as well, so don't expect to see 2 special teams touchdowns go your way this time round.

Still I wouldn't be touching that game with any money, cause I just don't know what to expect from that Lions offence.

Bateman

I definitely like the Ravens in week 1

Totals I like:

Arizona Cardinals Over 5.5 Wins
Oakland Raiders Under 5.5 Wins
Cincinnati Bengals Over 8.5 Wins
San Diego Chargers Under 7.5 Wins

If I was backing 1, I think it will be the Bengals

Paully D

Bateman wrote: »

I definitely like the Ravens in week 1

Totals I like:

Arizona Cardinals Over 5.5 Wins
Oakland Raiders Under 5.5 Wins
Cincinnati Bengals Over 8.5 Wins
San Diego Chargers Under 7.5 Wins

If I was backing 1, I think it will be the Bengals

Raiders under 5.5 wins is as close to printing money as you could find IMO.

padraig_f

Bateman wrote: »

Totals I like:

Arizona Cardinals Over 5.5 Wins

I like that one, liked the look of them in preseason.

You look at their offensive stats for pre-season week 3:

Carson Palmer 12/23, QB rating 82.
Rashard Mendenhall 47 yards on 8 carries.

Not eye-popping numbers, but would be a decent upgrade on last season.

padraig_f

Haven't done as much research as I'd like, so might be more of a spectator for week 1.

Think the Bears week 1 line is about right (-3 vs. Bengals). I did bet on them to win the NFC North (@ 4.5). Don't think there's actually much between them and the Packers, but the Packers are as low as 1.66 to win the division.

They also have a scheduling benefit over the Packers, they play them first after their bye week (so two weeks to prepare), and again in the last game of the season, when they'll have almost a full season under the new coaching staff.

In terms of evaluating the Bears, key to look out for on Sunday is the o-line. It was the big problem last year, 4 new starters this year. Two solid FAs on the left side (Bushrod, Slauson), two rookies on the right (inc. first round pick Kyle Long).

They'll get a very tough test against one of the best d-lines in the NFL, in the Bengals. If they hold their own against that, they could be a team to bet on. The bookies have them down for about 8 wins, they have elite skill-position talent on the offensive side, and also on the defensive side. So if that o-line holds up in Sunday's game, they could be an under-rated team for the first few weeks.

DDC1990

I'm looking at a Tampa Bay (-3.0), NE (-9.5) and Falcons (+3.0) Treble.

As far as I can see the Falcons are a better team then the Saints, and even in the Super Dome, should be able to win narrowly.

Its Tom Brady vs Tuel. Should cover the spread i'd say.

The Tampa Bay one is tough. Tampa are crap so far this year. Freeman is terrible, we have no TE and our pass rush is still non-existent. The Jets are also a shambles. Who know's who will QB for them.
Tampa however have a great Run D to stop Ivory. Revis is fit. Doug Martin, Vincent Jackson and Mike Williams should do damage if Freeman can get the ball anywhere near them.

I think Tampa will cover the spread.

Justin10

I wouldn't touch Atlanta, the Super Dome will be rocking with the return on Sean Payton.
Think i'll keep my money at least until week 2.

Hulk Hands

Went to great lengths to get the Ravens +9 earlier with Skybet (10/11) which was a bit of a steal. Other bets im having a close look at are the Giants +3 (20/19) and the Redskins -3.5 (Evs). Not quite sure why the Cowboys are being rated better, and the Redskins only very slightly better than the Giants and Eagles respectively. Had to say involuntary goodbyes to a number of my accounts since last season, which will make this year more difficult in a sport where it's absolutely imperative to take the very best price at all times. Still, looking forward to it. One of the best gambling challenges around

Bateman

padraig_f wrote: »

They also have a scheduling benefit over the Packers, they play them first after their bye week (so two weeks to prepare), and again in the last game of the season, when they'll have almost a full season under the new coaching staff.

Think I heard this week that Cutler has an average of 3 sacks a game over the last 3 seasons so any improvement on the o-line would be welcome.

gerire

Tnf over 48pts will decide how I bet rest of the week

Bateman

I see the line is now barely a TD, which puts paid to the old adage of "back your favourites early and your dogs late"

I'd be interested to see the history of road dogs going in two points and still covering

Hulk Hands

Bateman wrote: »

I definitely like the Ravens in week 1

Totals I like:

Arizona Cardinals Over 5.5 Wins
Oakland Raiders Under 5.5 Wins
Cincinnati Bengals Over 8.5 Wins
San Diego Chargers Under 7.5 Wins

If I was backing 1, I think it will be the Bengals

I've had a long look through the majority of teams season totals, pricing every game for the ones I thought we're too big/small. Personally I think the Bengals under 8.5 wins at 6/4 is a cracking bet.

Going through all their games, i've only made them favs in 7, strong favs in 2 and slight in 5. In the rest they are slight outsiders. Overall I think over/under 8 would be a fair total, so don't have a huge issue with 8.5. What I do have issue with is that it's 4/7 over 8.5 and 6/4 under. That's wrong and im delighted with 6/4 here on what i'd see as a 4/5 shot max. They are likely to have a losing record after 5 games so can review the situation then

Otherwise I love the Over 11.5 Broncos (10/11) where I have them as 1/2 favs or shorter a whopping 11 times, close to 'pickem' 3 times and slight outsiders twice. They have a very nice schedule, as good as last year where they had teething problems and started 1-3, only to win the remainder. They should hit the ground running this year.

It's a similar story with the Pats at over 11 (6/4), while a somewhat related bet is the Dolphins under 8 (19/20), where i've only made them clear favs 3 times.

JONJO THE MISER

After much study over the last few days im going for over 48.5 pts in the Ravens game, 10//11 with Boylesports.

Hulk Hands

Guys, Youwin doing 100% lines for tonights game, moneyline and spread. It's also moneyback if you lose in OT and moneyback if Ray Rice score the first TD. Superb stuff. For any casual gamblers out there, this is an incredibly rare time where you can place a bet and be sure it's +EV. Fast becoming the best place to back on NFL

Fenix

Paddypower :
Wes Welker anytime touchdown scorer 5/4!

Where have Youwin sprung from?! Seems like they are here all of a sudden, or maybe I've been hiding under a rock this past while?

JaMarcus Hustle

Have the Ravens to cover as part of this weekend's bets, but stuck a sneaky 20 on them to win outright too given Broncos defensive situation.

kryogen

My bets from the opening weekend

Have 1 6 fold and other bets containing the teams shown

kryogen

I am aware of the **** up I made with the Ravens-Broncos game but they wont change it for me now! No idea how I clicked on both results and missed it while checking the bet! (Meant to just back the Ravens obv)

Ah well, at least my bets cant be ****ed after tonight I guess

Onecoolcookie

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Guys, Youwin doing 100% lines for tonights game, moneyline and spread. It's also moneyback if you lose in OT and moneyback if Ray Rice score the first TD. Superb stuff. For any casual gamblers out there, this is an incredibly rare time where you can place a bet and be sure it's +EV. Fast becoming the best place to back on NFL

Interesting, never heard of these guys before but looking to change online bookmakers myself at the moment. How would you rate them for other sports, tennis, football etc?

In tonights game I like the look of the Ravens with the handicap +7.5, without Miller and Dumervil to rush the passer Flacco will have time in the pocket to try and pick apart this Broncos D.

Hulk Hands

Onecoolcookie wrote: »

Interesting, never heard of these guys before but looking to change online bookmakers myself at the moment. How would you rate them for other sports, tennis, football etc?

In tonights game I like the look of the Ravens with the handicap +7.5, without Miller and Dumervil to rush the passer Flacco will have time in the pocket to try and pick apart this Broncos D.

Well you've probably asked the pickiest person in the world. Open accounts with every single major bookie. There is no reason not to have accounts with them all. People will walk an extra 10 mins if a jersey is 10 quid cheaper elsewhere, so why wont they spend 3 mins opening an account to get better odds. You say you're looking for a new bookie? You're new bookie should be oddschecker.com and you should place bets with whoever is best price. For what its worth, if you're to have one Youwin seems to be best for NFL. Otherwise i'd say bet365, with PP a close second for all other sports

elarkin

Was on paddy power last night and saw a few money back specials.

1st one was that PP would refund your bet if you lost on your 5+ fold match bet. Max bet was 10er. Surely this is a free bet. Just pick 5 or more matches and if any one or more loses you get your stake back?!

2nd was they are doing money back on your losing Superbowl outright betting if the Broncos or 49ers win the Superbowl. Surely an even better reason to back the seahawks?!

JaMarcus Hustle

Pretty sure that first one is that you get your money back if only one bet let's your 5 fold down, i.e. you get 4/5 right.

padraig_f

I think it is simply money-back, nice spot. Max bet of a tenner, but you might as well have a whirl. Also money back is in the form of a free bet (i.e. not directly withdrawable), and you have to use it by the following week.

Paddy Power wrote:

If your 5-fold or bigger NFL Match Betting ACCA doesn’t win, we'll give you your money back as a free bet on next week's NFL. You can't lose!

Paddy Power wrote:

Conditions
Applies to 5+ fold accums on NFL Match Betting markets placed pre-match only.
Applies to all Week 1 NFL fixtures. The offer will not be credited until 2pm on Wednesday 11th September.
Refund will be credited as a free bet on American Football and will be valid for 7 days.
Max free bet €/£10 per customer. Free bet stake not included in winnings.
Applies to online and mobile bets only. Phone, text or shop bets do not apply.

Edit: another note, needs to be match betting, not handicap betting.

Paully D

You will probably be only able to use your free bet refund on a single bet also, no double or trebles etc. That's what happens on these refund specials on the football.

padraig_f

elarkin wrote: »

2nd was they are doing money back on your losing Superbowl outright betting if the Broncos or 49ers win the Superbowl. Surely an even better reason to back the seahawks?!

This is a pretty good one too, Broncos are 6.5 to win the Super Bowl, 49ers are 7.5. Means there's roughly a (15% + 13%) = 28% chance one of the two win.

I did it, took Seahawks (9.0), Saints (21.0) and Bears (34.0). You can make multiple bets, max refund between them is 100.

elarkin

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Pretty sure that first one is that you get your money back if only one bet let's your 5 fold down, i.e. you get 4/5 right.

Read T&Cs in it and it is money back guaranteed ni matter how many bets let you down. Still worth a risk. Think I might throw in a few dead certs and maybe one risky bet. I know it's only a free bet refund but still can easily use it for a good spot the next week.

What's everyone's thoughts on the falcons @ saints. I see the saints are favourites. I know Sean payton is back and all but the falcons were so good last year! Thinking of backing falcons to win the match. Or is this a silly move?

Hulk Hands

elarkin wrote: »

Read T&Cs in it and it is money back guaranteed ni matter how many bets let you down. Still worth a risk. Think I might throw in a few dead certs and maybe one risky bet. I know it's only a free bet refund but still can easily use it for a good spot the next week.

What's everyone's thoughts on the falcons @ saints. I see the saints are favourites. I know Sean payton is back and all but the falcons were so good last year! Thinking of backing falcons to win the match. Or is this a silly move?

Bookie's are basically saying both the Falcons and Saints are equal, with the Saints being favs due to home advantage. If you think the Falcons are better, fire away

padraig_f

elarkin wrote: »

What's everyone's thoughts on the falcons @ saints. I see the saints are favourites. I know Sean payton is back and all but the falcons were so good last year! Thinking of backing falcons to win the match. Or is this a silly move?

I was thinking of going the other way on this. The Falcons had probably the most flattering record in the NFL last season (easy schedule plus some flukey wins on top of that). It continued in the playoffs when they got the Seahawks on the back a bruising encounter with the Redskins the week before, and two cross-country trips (Falcons won the game with a last-second field-goal).

I'm not saying they're bad, but I don't rate them as one of the best teams (they won 13 games last season, to me, they're more like a 9-10 win team).

I'd be taking a bit of a punt on the Sean Payton effect, but the Saints won 7 games last year with a real makeshift coaching staff, and won 13 games a year before (to the Falcons 10).

Ah, I don't have a real strong opinion on it, so if you do, go ahead, but I was leaning the other way.

shamrock55

I think im gonna throw a tenner each on falcons @18/1 and redskins @40/1:eek: to win the sb what you guys think

padraig_f

My bets today, kept them relatively small with week 1 lack of confidence:

Bengals @ Bears: OVER 41.5
Steelers -7 vs. Titans
49ers -4.5 vs. Packers
Saints -3 vs. Falcons
Patriots @ Bills UNDER 51

My favourite is the Bears-Bengals over, seems to me a very low total for two teams who beefed up offensively in the off-season.

Edit: Added Patriots @ Bills UNDER 51. Patriots are missing their 5 leading receivers from last season, Bills starting a rookie QB and best offensive weapon is CJ Spiller, expecting them to run the ball a lot.

UnitedIrishman

Did a few small anytime TD scorer bets for interest:

Ridley and Bush
Graham, Thompkins, Bryant and Wayne

Aswell as these two accums - one is my banker additional points/spread accum:
Browns -1.5
Saints -3
Under 40 Jets/Bucs
Over 48 SF/GB
Vikings +4

Kansas +3
Colts -6
Under 51 Sea/Pan
Under 48 Pitt/Titans
Over 43 Giants/Dallas