If we look back on today's society in 50 years time...

Dicky Pride

You know when we look back in history at things like blacks not being able to drink at certain water fountains or eat in certain cafés, or women not being able to vote etc..

What current rules or laws etc will we be looking back on in 50 years time and wondering how the hell they were ever in place?

There are a few that jump immediately to mind for me.

1. Stopping a couple that are in love from marrying.
2. Telling us when we can and can't buy alcohol.
3. Priests and bishops, who were elected by nobody, having a say in anything.
4. People getting called slutty for hooking up at a petrol station.

What other stupid things exist in this country that are somewhat hard to believe?

IM0

Dicky Pride wrote: »

You know when we look back in history at things like blacks not being able to drink at certain water fountains or eat in certain cafés, or women not being able to vote etc..

What current rules or laws etc will we be looking back on in 50 years time and wondering how the hell they were ever in place?

There are a few that jump immediately to mind for me.

1. Stopping a couple that are in love from marrying.
2. Telling us when we can and can't buy alcohol.
3. Priests and bishops, who were elected by nobody, having a say in anything.
4. People getting called slutty for hooking up at a petrol station.

What other stupid things exist in this country that are somewhat hard to believe?

donvito99

I will be old and saying how great thing were compared to 2060s Ireland.

"Back in my day, we had so called smart phones. You with your fancy-shmancy implanted mobile device. Times were simpler back then, I tells ya."

Corvo

Dicky Pride wrote: »

You know when we look back in history at things like blacks not being able to drink at certain water fountains or eat in certain cafés, or women not being able to vote etc..

What current rules or laws etc will we be looking back on in 50 years time and wondering how the hell they were ever in place?

There are a few that jump immediately to mind for me.

1. Stopping a couple that are in love from marrying.
2. Telling us when we can and can't buy alcohol.
3. Priests and bishops, who were elected by nobody, having a say in anything.
4. People getting called slutty for hooking up at a petrol station.

What other stupid things exist in this country that are somewhat hard to believe?

As in pubs / clubs? Or off licences? Probably not the worst law around. I imagine at the time of the smoking ban people found it outrageous too, but it has worked out just fine!

Agree with the priests and bishops part however. I have a feeling that in 50 years time, we will look back and think how their power existed at all (I fancy it all to dwindle rapidly)

When Im in my 70's, I want to give out about hovercrafts "Look at ye with your goddamn hovercrafts, back in my day, we walked or had skateboards, goddamn hippies"

Dicky Pride

I mean off licences more so. Ridiculous that we are told when we are allowed to buy drink. Just think about that notion for a second. We can go into and buy a pallet of vodka but just not on a Sunday morning or after 10pm, or on Good Friday...jaysus. It's madness when you really think about it.

Ruudi_Mentari

They will be saying omg, we rocked! Despite there having been none.

They will us.....

Mr Benevolent

IM0 wrote: »

He means gay marriage. Which I personally believe is equal rights gone too far. Marraige is completely irrelevant if you're gay as the main point of marriage is to provide father's rights. Since (male) gay couples usually only adopt, the rights are enshrined in law anyway. What a pointless piece of legislation that will be.

4. People getting called slutty for hooking up at a petrol station.

It should be illegal to express an opinion?

2. Telling us when we can and can't buy alcohol.

If you're that desperate for it then yes.

krudler

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

He means gay marriage. Which I personally believe is equal rights gone too far. Marraige is completely irrelevant if you're gay as the main point of marriage is to provide father's rights. Since (male) gay couples usually only adopt, the rights are enshrined in law anyway. What a pointless piece of legislation that will be.

Wha?

Dicky Pride

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

He means gay marriage. Which I personally believe is equal rights gone too far. Marraige is completely irrelevant if you're gay as the main point of marriage is to provide father's rights. Since (male) gay couples usually only adopt, the rights are enshrined in law anyway. What a pointless piece of legislation that will be.



It should be illegal to express an opinion?



If you're that desperate for it then yes.

Where did I say it should be illegal to express an opinion? You sound like one of these people that go around starting arguments for no real reason, regardless of whether you care about the topic or not.

And please tell me what desperation has to do with the government telling us when we can and cannot buy something. Are you an idiot?

Bannasidhe

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

He means gay marriage. Which I personally believe is equal rights gone too far. Marraige is completely irrelevant if you're gay as the main point of marriage is to provide father's rights. Since (male) gay couples usually only adopt, the rights are enshrined in law anyway. What a pointless piece of legislation that will be.

No. It isn't.
Have a read of the marriage legislation and please then tell me where it states this?

By this logic a marriage is only a marriage where there are biological children which will come as a surprise to married couples who do not have biological children.

How can equality go 'too far'? Equal is equal...




Hopefully in 50 years times we will look back and wonder why the hell we left the RCC have so much control over our education system.

SEPT 23 1989

You are presuming that anything remotely bad for your health will be legal in 50 years time

Leftist

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

He means gay marriage. Which I personally believe is equal rights gone too far. Marraige is completely irrelevant if you're gay as the main point of marriage is to provide father's rights. Since (male) gay couples usually only adopt, the rights are enshrined in law anyway. What a pointless piece of legislation that will be.

What are you talking bollox for?

Sunnyisland

We will be wondering why this country was not a united Ireland years ago :):P

IM0

how we managed without robots wiping our arses

MurdyWurdy

This thread made me think of this....

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/gay_marriage

Allyall

We'll probably be wondering how are the Politicians still getting away with it?

Dicky Pride

Any more?

frozenfrozen

anarchy is all we can really hope for. and tea. Anarchy and tea, please

The_Gatsby

Dicky Pride wrote: »

I mean off licences more so. Ridiculous that we are told when we are allowed to buy drink. Just think about that notion for a second. We can go into and buy a pallet of vodka but just not on a Sunday morning or after 10pm, or on Good Friday...jaysus. It's madness when you really think about it.

Good Friday is 1 day out of 365 that you can't buy alcohol. It's sad that people in this country have a problem with it.

frozenfrozen

The_Gatsby wrote: »

Good Friday is 1 day out of 365 that you can't buy alcohol. It's sad that people in this country have a problem with it.

It's the idea behind it though. Not drinking that day should be a choice for the religious...

Freddy Smelly

IM0 wrote: »

he is referring to gay marriages

AEDIC

frozenfrozen wrote: »

It's the idea behind it though. Not drinking that day should be a choice for the religious...

You can drink on that day... you just cant purchase alcohol on that day, so you have as much choice as your own planning will allow.

BlimpGaz

Paedophilia will be legalized, right in time for me 84th birthday

I Heart Internet

Dicky Pride wrote: »

You know when we look back in history at things like blacks not being able to drink at certain water fountains or eat in certain cafés, or women not being able to vote etc..

I think you mean black people.

Dicky Pride wrote: »

1. Stopping a couple that are in love from marrying

Any couple in love? So a brother and sister become husband and wife?

Dicky Pride wrote: »

2. Telling us when we can and can't buy alcohol.

Meh.....If I want alcohol at odd times of the day or night I'll just remember to have some in the fridge. I don't expect people and businesses to cater to my every whim.

Dicky Pride wrote: »

3. Priests and bishops, who were elected by nobody, having a say in anything.

So presumably no GAA club chairman could have a say in their club or sport in their community or...well...."anything" as you say, either?

Dicky Pride wrote: »

4. People getting called slutty for hooking up at a petrol station.

Not slutty - heros is what I call those people. Up against the pine tree air fresheners! Oh yeah!

BlimpGaz

Dicky Pride wrote: »

You know when we look back in history at things like blacks not being able to drink at certain water fountains or eat in certain cafés, or women not being able to vote etc..

What current rules or laws etc will we be looking back on in 50 years time and wondering how the hell they were ever in place?

There are a few that jump immediately to mind for me.

1. Stopping a couple that are in love from marrying.
2. Telling us when we can and can't buy alcohol.
3. Priests and bishops, who were elected by nobody, having a say in anything.
4. People getting called slutty for hooking up at a petrol station.

What other stupid things exist in this country that are somewhat hard to believe?

Female much?

Dravokivich

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

If you're that desperate for it then yes.

Well, It's not so much about desperation. It's not wanting to appear desperate. There's many other goods avail to us 24x7 if the shops are willing to stay open for it. Its nuts that an Off License has to be open for certain times only.

I've a mate who works odd hours during the week and as a result is only able to buy alcohol on Saturday/Sundays. He ends up buying crates at a time, because if he only feels like 1 or 2 on a Tuesday after work, he can't buy them.

It's nuts having to buy a lot of drink at the time.

smash

Having to wait 4 years for a divorce in Ireland... shocking.

Celly Smunt

Am I the only one who doesn't give a crap about gay marriage?.As in totally indifferent to the situation altogether.Everytime the topic comes up wherever I am,it seems both sides either call you anti or pro gay marriage if you honestly don't give a crap.

Don't care = homophobic
Or
Don't care = liberal hippy
Apparently.

Antar Bolaeisk

We'll probably still be making threads wondering what people fifty years from then will think of the world when looking back to fifty years from now.

1ZRed

frozenfrozen wrote: »

It's the idea behind it though. Not drinking that day should be a choice for the religious...

Exactly. I'm not religious therefore why should I have to go along with whatever they believe and have it forced on me when I don't want anything to do with them?

Everyone should have a choice to drink and those who are religious can simply not do it. That's a win/win situation.

It's not being petty and just wanting to drink, it's the principal behind it and how stupid it is to have one religion's beliefs forced on everyone.

Countering that with "it's so sad that people can't stay off the drink for 1 day a year" is nonsense and is not an argument for it. There's actually no argument for keeping good Friday's rediculous drink ban so it should be abolished. Let the religious mind their own business and let them choose to drink or not instead of deciding for all of us that we shouldn't.

jaffacakesyum

There's going to be a hell of a lot of boardsies on the wrong side of history, that's for sure.

The_Gatsby

frozenfrozen wrote: »

It's the idea behind it though. Not drinking that day should be a choice for the religious...

As if that's the point you were making. You just want to be able to come out of a nightclub and go and buy drink at 4am...

1ZRed

The_Gatsby wrote: »

As if that's the point you were making. You just want to be able to come out of a nightclub and go and buy drink at 4am...

You've yet to address why we should have this ridiculous law in place that we can't buy drink on Good Friday. If many of us, Catholics included, are going to be drinking anyway, surely we should just do away with it and let people choose what they want to do?

And there's actually nothing at all wrong with getting out of a nightclub to buy drink at 4am. Feck it, it's a Friday if that's what you want to do, enjoy yourself! Don't get how it's somehow a bad thing.

The_Gatsby

1ZRed wrote: »

You've yet to address why we should have this ridiculous law in place that we can't buy drink on Good Friday.

Because this is a Catholic country. I don't support the law or think it's right; nor am I Catholic. However, I do think it's pathetic that people in this country get so touchy about it. Good Friday in Ireland is an excuse to go out and get pissed for just because the law says we're not allowed to. That's what I mean when I say it's sad that people have such a big problem with it. Get drunk on any of the other 364 days in the year.

smash

The_Gatsby wrote: »

Good Friday in Ireland is an excuse to go out and get pissed for just because the law says we're not allowed to.

Except the law doesn't say you're not allowed go out and get pissed. It just says it's illegal for a supplier to sell alcohol to you.

Allyall

Dicky Pride wrote: »

You know when we look back in history at things like blacks not being able to drink at certain water fountains or eat in certain cafés, or women not being able to vote etc..

What current rules or laws etc will we be looking back on in 50 years time and wondering how the hell they were ever in place?

There are a few that jump immediately to mind for me.

1. Stopping a couple that are in love from marrying.

Marriage itself will probably become irrelevant. (Hopefully). With the rate of divorces, and many people only marrying for citizenship/tax/pressure etc.. It's becoming less and less like the romantic gesture it was supposed to be.

Dicky Pride wrote: »

2. Telling us when we can and can't buy alcohol.

It wouldn't shock me an awful lot if they started trying to reduce (by law) your weekly/nightly intake. Also reducing the amount of alcohol in drinks per volume.
Vodka will probably become 5%..

Dicky Pride wrote: »

3. Priests and bishops, who were elected by nobody, having a say in anything.

The same as anybody down the pub/on TV/in the Newspaper/Next Door Neighbour...
It'll probably always happen, it's up to you to choose whether or not to listen to them.

Dicky Pride wrote: »

4. People getting called slutty for hooking up at a petrol station.

Cars will be run on air and water, Oil supplies will have dried out. The earth will start becoming raisin-like, and there will be no Petrol stations for people to hook up in, eliminating the possibilities of calling them anything.

Dicky Pride wrote: »

What other stupid things exist in this country that are somewhat hard to believe?

Leprechauns.

Roger_007

We wiil be up to our ar$es in snowdrifts and the ice-sheets will once again advancing south from the arctic and we will be remembering all those idiots who told us we would be sizzling........

1ZRed

The_Gatsby wrote: »

Because this is a Catholic country. I don't support the law or think it's right; nor am I Catholic. However, I do think it's pathetic that people in this country get so touchy about it. Good Friday in Ireland is an excuse to go out and get pissed for just because the law says we're not allowed to. That's what I mean when I say it's sad that people have such a big problem with it. Get drunk on any of the other 364 days in the year.

I couldn't give a fuk if this was a Muslim country. It's about religion in this country having far too sway on matter that have nothing to do with them. The government shouldn't support it because we are a secular state. Let anyone who is not religious not drink. Boom! Problem solved.

I didn't get pissed this Good Friday, I only had a few drinks and that was it. Nothing exciting unfortunately. But it was a Friday and I was done with work, I wanted to go out for a few and enjoy myself. But that's sad apparently according to you.

Who are you to tell me to go "get drunk" on any other day of the year, it's actually so patronising and if you're calling people pathetic for wanting to head out for a few drinks, with many getting no more drunk than any other Friday night, is what's pathetic when you can't even justify it with a good reason as to why we shouldn't do it.

AEDIC

1ZRed wrote: »

I couldn't give a fuk if this was a Muslim country. It's about religion in this country having far too sway on matter that have nothing to do with them. The government shouldn't support it because we are a secular state. Let anyone who is not religious not drink. Boom! Problem solved.

I didn't get pissed this Good Friday, I only had a few drinks and that was it. Nothing exciting unfortunately. But it was a Friday and I was done with work, I wanted to go out for a few and enjoy myself. But that's sad apparently according to you.

Who are you to tell me to go "get drunk" on any other day of the year, it's actually so patronising and if you're calling people pathetic for wanting to head out for a few drinks, with many getting no more drunk than any other Friday night, is what's pathetic when you can't even justify it with a good reason as to why we shouldn't do it.

Well....sort of but not really... it's about the law (which may or may not be driven by religion). The law says you cant be sold alcohol on Good Friday, regardless of your religion so thats that.

If you are going to pick and choose which laws you stand by and which you dont then where will that leave us?

smash

AEDIC wrote: »

If you are going to pick and choose which laws you stand by and which you dont then where will that leave us?

In a job as a politician?

jaffacakesyum

AEDIC wrote: »

Well....sort of but not really... it's about the law (which may or may not be driven by religion). The law says you cant be sold alcohol on Good Friday, regardless of your religion so thats that.

If you are going to pick and choose which laws you stand by and which you dont then where will that leave us?

If we had your attitude, women would not be able to own property, homosexuality would be illegal etc etc. Just because it's a law doesn't make it right.

Dravokivich

AEDIC wrote: »

Well....sort of but not really... it's about the law (which may or may not be driven by religion). The law says you cant be sold alcohol on Good Friday, regardless of your religion so thats that.

If you are going to pick and choose which laws you stand by and which you dont then where will that leave us?

Is it the law?

I was under the impression it was to do with licensing regulations more so. The availability for purchasing is down right nuts, and that's not just good friday. It's the opening hours forced onto'em.

The_Gatsby

1ZRed wrote: »

But that's sad apparently according to you.

Who are you to tell me to go "get drunk" on any other day of the year, it's actually so patronising and if you're calling people pathetic for wanting to head out for a few drinks, with many getting no more drunk than any other Friday night, is what's pathetic when you can't even justify it with a good reason as to why we shouldn't do it.

Nope, people having a couple of drinks is fine, it isn't sad. The sad part is the way that a big deal is made of the fact we can't buy alcohol. People stock up the day before. I work part time in an off licence and it's ridiculous how many people come in the day before Good Friday and stock up on drink. That Thursday is the busiest day of the year and I think it's sad that people feel the need to stock up on drink just because there's one day in the year we can't buy it.

At the end of the day it's the law. Yeah, we are a ****ty little country that's governed by religion. We don't allow abortion or gay marriage which, in today's world, is fairly sad and pathetic. I don't agree with the way this country is run or some of the legislation that's in place but at the end of the day, we vote for who is going to run this country. They make the laws. If you don't like them then vote for somebody else. That's how democracy works right?

fishy fishy

1ZRed wrote: »

I couldn't give a fuk if this was a Muslim country. It's about religion in this country having far too sway on matter that have nothing to do with them. The government shouldn't support it because we are a secular state. Let anyone who is not religious not drink. Boom! Problem solved.

I didn't get pissed this Good Friday, I only had a few drinks and that was it. Nothing exciting unfortunately. But it was a Friday and I was done with work, I wanted to go out for a few and enjoy myself. But that's sad apparently according to you.

Who are you to tell me to go "get drunk" on any other day of the year, it's actually so patronising and if you're calling people pathetic for wanting to head out for a few drinks, with many getting no more drunk than any other Friday night, is what's pathetic when you can't even justify it with a good reason as to why we shouldn't do it.

book into a cheap hotel for the night and you can have residents bar if you are that desperate. :pac:

Duckworth_Luas

Why do people think that in 50 years time Ireland or anywhere else will have become some type of liberal paradise? It may be the exact opposite and in half a century people may look back and marvel at out current "ultra-liberal" views. Those not incaracerated in Room 101 that is!

rainbow kirby

That we ever let the RCC within a million miles of our children, and that we didn't kick them out of the schools and the hospitals sooner

That we didn't do enough to protect the environment (irreversible climate change and all that fun stuff)

That we didn't drastically rewrite the Constitution sooner

Dravokivich

The_Gatsby wrote: »

Nope, people having a couple of drinks is fine, it isn't sad. The sad part is the way that a big deal is made of the fact we can't buy alcohol. People stock up the day before. I work part time in an off licence and it's ridiculous how many people come in the day before Good Friday and stock up on drink. That Thursday is the busiest day of the year and I think it's sad that people feel the need to stock up on drink just because there's one day in the year we can't buy it.

At the end of the day it's the law. Yeah, we are a ****ty little country that's governed by religion. We don't allow abortion or gay marriage which, in today's world, is fairly sad and pathetic. I don't agree with the way this country is run or some of the legislation that's in place but at the end of the day, we vote for who is going to run this country. They make the laws. If you don't like them then vote for somebody else. That's how democracy works right?

If the Government have such a hard on for Good Friday and this being a Catholic country, it should be a Public Holiday. Otherwise it's just bollocks.

AEDIC

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

If we had your attitude, women would not be able to own property, homosexuality would be illegal etc etc. Just because it's a law doesn't make it right.

erm.... just wow.

Laws are reformed and changed by due process, particularly ones that are 'not right'. Where have I said that laws that have been changed should have stayed as they were?

If you want the law on Selling alcohol on a Good Friday changed...become a politician, stand for government and make this your main policy and then go through the due process to have it changed once you recieve the correct support to do so.... thats due process.

Or support and vote for one that wants it changed.

1ZRed

The_Gatsby wrote: »

Nope, people having a couple of drinks is fine, it isn't sad. The sad part is the way that a big deal is made of the fact we can't buy alcohol. People stock up the day before. I work part time in an off licence and it's ridiculous how many people come in the day before Good Friday and stock up on drink. That Thursday is the busiest day of the year and I think it's sad that people feel the need to stock up on drink just because there's one day in the year we can't buy it.

So change the law and do away with it then. Make it no more special than any other Thursday in the year. Problem solved again.

In actually keeping this stupid law in place people are stocking up and drinking more, so if you don't approve then why do you support the very reason this is happening?

The_Gatsby wrote: »

At the end of the day it's the law. Yeah, we are a ****ty little country that's governed by religion. We don't allow abortion or gay marriage which, in today's world, is fairly sad and pathetic. I don't agree with the way this country is run or some of the legislation that's in place but at the end of the day, we vote for who is going to run this country. They make the laws. If you don't like them then vote for somebody else. That's how democracy works right?

This is one of the biggest problems with this country. I don't know if it's people being lazy or afraid, but nobody ever wants to challenge the laws or the government. Oh there's a heap of bitching and moaning that goes on from their armchairs, but when it comes down to it everyone seems to submit so cowardly.

So your solution is to stay put and take it instead of challenging something that is ridiculous and proven itself to have no rational purpose in the country? You say that it's just the law but if nobody ever challenged the law women wouldn't be allowed to vote, divorce wouldn't be legal, and so on, just to name a few.
It is pathetic that we are so far behind on things but things need to be challenged to change. Sitting back moaning complacently will get fuk all achieved.

Does that make sense to you and does that sound like a justifiable reason not to do anything about this ridiculous law?

Azure_sky

We will probably look back at how we allowed the government to have so much control over our lives.

The_Gatsby wrote: »

Because this is a Catholic country. I don't support the law or think it's right; nor am I Catholic. However, I do think it's pathetic that people in this country get so touchy about it. Good Friday in Ireland is an excuse to go out and get pissed for just because the law says we're not allowed to. That's what I mean when I say it's sad that people have such a big problem with it. Get drunk on any of the other 364 days in the year.

It's not a Catholic country. The majority of the population are Catholic (on paper at least) but it's not a Catholic country.

I rarely drink but if I choose to have a drink on that particular day that should be my choice. If I own a bar/ off license on that day and wish to sell alcohol that should be my choice. The government, especially when influenced by a religion, should not have the right to make that choice.
It's the principle that matters.

looking_around

on the drinking, have you looked at countries that don't have time limits and such? These countries generally have LESS of a problem with alcohol.

Wonder why that is. :rolls eyes:

I think we'll be telling stories about how we used fossil fuels, and had large wild animals that weren't just in zoo's/photo's

Oh, and cities on the sea will be common practice (research is already being done to make this possible)