Room to Improve.

freshpopcorn

nuac wrote: »

Why do people enter these programmes? I presume they still have to pay their builder. Even if there is a reduction on architect's fees, it may not be worth the hassle and exposure.

Some might say it's to make sure the builders do a good job and on time, you might get lucky by getting furniture or some discounts but I think some people want to be on TV!

spookwoman

Autosport wrote: »

A friend of mine is a neighbor of them and she says that she’s not a very friendly person but padraic is very quiet and is extremely shy and that episode was the most she has ever heard him talk.

He did seem very unworldly and tied to the apron strings. He seemed happy to do his farming and would be happy to live anywhere that is quiet. There was nothing of his or his personality in that renovation it was all her.
I pity him in the years to come if she is like that at this age she will only get worse as the years pass.

Drifter50

Feel sorry for Katie with all the hate that she received. She had her own ideas and stood up to Dermot which many people cave in ad go with his ideas. Just because he thinks it will look well does`nt mean everyone has to like it

Drifter50

Drifter50 wrote: »

Feel sorry for Katie with all the hate that she received. She had her own ideas and stood up to Dermot which many people cave in ad go with his ideas. Just because he thinks it will look well does`nt mean everyone has to like it

I feel sorry for Dermot in this case .

There’s never an excuse for rudeness .

And to call people “haters “ for simply having an opinion on what constitutes good manners and good breeding is just deflecting from what happened.
These days if anyone has an opinion different to someone else’s and even if they can back it up coherently they are a “hater” and the perpetrator of what happened is an”victim” .

I grew up in a time where manners were important, how you spoke to someone was important even if you didn,t agree with them . It’s called having respect for other human beings.

Dermot is a professional in his field , he’s got qualifications in what he does . That’s why she hired him . How would she feel if he went in to her classroom and criticized her for her methods of teaching ? If he gave her 0-10 without even listening to her entire class, if he point blank disagreed with her plan for a class before it even started ?

Same thing. Life will teach that girl that you don’t always get your own way and you’re not always right . I am not a hater , I have an opinion .
(I have 2 daughters around her age, both professionals, I’ve seen them both at work , neither of them would dream of speaking to someone the way she did).

Mountainsandh

Autosport wrote: »

A friend of mine is a neighbor of them and she says that she’s not a very friendly person but padraic is very quiet and is extremely shy and that episode was the most she has ever heard him talk.

A man of a few words alright. I know a few younger farmers like that, it's not really that they're shy, they just don't see the need for small talk or extra talk. Get them going on sheep or cows though and it's a different story. I was sat in a minibus driving through South Kerry one time with two of those sitting in front of me, you should have heard the chatter between the 2 of them. All about sheep and cows, that's their passion.

spookwoman wrote: »

He did seem very unworldly and tied to the apron strings. He seemed happy to do his farming and would be happy to live anywhere that is quiet. There was nothing of his or his personality in that renovation it was all her.
I pity him in the years to come if she is like that at this age she will only get worse as the years pass.

That's not really true though. He's quiet about it, and productions want to make you feel like he doesn't, but he has plenty of input throughout the program.

He's strongly set in favour of that room downstairs, says that if in 6 months time they needed a bedroom downstairs and they went along with Dermot's plan, they could find themselves disappointed.
He's not keen on a very large window downstairs facing the yard, the light could bother him for the tv, and he doesn't see the point.
He hates the orange for the kitchen, he had it in his mind it was going to be white, and seemed happy enough about that. Katie agrees and so they don't go for orange.
In the kitchen he wants presses that have a feature to tell him what side of the press opens, like handles, because he says otherwise he'd forever be forgetting what side the press opens. Dermot is a bit bítchy there saying "what on earth would you have to open a press for in this kitchen ?", and Padraig replies even though he doesn't cook he'd still need to get himself a bowl of cereals at times.
I can't remember very well but I think the final presses they got on the island have handles alright.

He seems keen on the number of rooms upstairs, I'd say he was as set on an extra one as she was, and is fairly impressed that they managed it while keeping a room for themselves that was actually a slight bit bigger than the one they used to have.

And of course it's his uncle's house and that's why they're keen on renovating sympathetically rather than drastically changing it, she's very sympathetic to that too and says it's Pete's (or whatever the uncle name was) house too, in a matter of fact manner, not bitter, near the start of the program.

I think a lot of these couples where you've a really quiet one and a more extroverted outspoken one often work very well actually. From the outside it can seem very polarized, but I'd say in privacy the quiet guys have their say too, they just leave all the "publicizing" to the other half.

Like another poster said, he might like to be mammied and she likes delivering on it, a great match

kerry cow

It was immature behaviour on her part .
Dermot showed maturity in dealing with it .
Unfortunately she will be remembered for ever more for her performance .
But don't rule out the late late to save her, with a blooming explanation.
Put your head up and be prepared for it to come off .

irishmoss

Colser wrote: »

I felt the 0 out of 10 sounded orchestrated as well.She definitely came across as domineering but she could have been setup for some of it,I really liked her mother and really disagreed with the backlash she received.

I wouldn't like to be her right now tbh and I genuinely feel sorry for her if she's reading everything online,not saying that I liked her but I don't think anyone deserves to go through this.

If you put yourself forward to go on these type of shows you have to face the consequences. The producers will try and make the show more engaging. It is the same with The X Factor, those getting through have a "story" to tell along with a good voice.
Dermot knows how to play for the camera and draws as much as he can from the client and eggs them on sometimes, all for good viewing.

irishmoss

nuac wrote: »

Why do people enter these programmes? I presume they still have to pay their builder. Even if there is a reduction on architect's fees, it may not be worth the hassle and exposure.

Does anyone know what you actually get by doing this program? Does Demot's services come free?

Sleepy

Dermots Services and the chance to be on telly seems to be about it.

Presumably it does you no harm in negotiating with suppliers either ("you can put massive stickers on the windows which'll be visible on RTE for a 15% discount" kind of thing...) though I'd assume it eliminates your options for paying suppliers in cash and letting them worry about the tax compliance

Reati

Sleepy wrote: »

Dermots Services and the chance to be on telly seems to be about it.

Presumably it does you no harm in negotiating with suppliers either ("you can put massive stickers on the windows which'll be visible on RTE for a 15% discount" kind of thing...) though I'd assume it eliminates your options for paying suppliers in cash and letting them worry about the tax compliance

The y put the massive stickers on either way. My windows were riddled with them when they arrived.

recipio

spookwoman wrote: »

He did seem very unworldly and tied to the apron strings. He seemed happy to do his farming and would be happy to live anywhere that is quiet. There was nothing of his or his personality in that renovation it was all her.
I pity him in the years to come if she is like that at this age she will only get worse as the years pass.

In a previous life I used to do a lot of house calls to farmhouses. You wouldn't believe how people still live in rural Ireland. Usually a concrete floor, a range belting out heat, one fluorescent light in the ceiling and a telly half way up the wall.Katie will bring a touch of civilisation to the home and her choices are not as conservative as they might have been. I'd lose the purple chaise lounge though.:D

Sleepy

Reati wrote: »

The y put the massive stickers on either way. My windows were riddled with them when they arrived.

Yeah, but you could agree not to remove them before filming in exchange for a discount

freshpopcorn

https://m.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/i-dont-have-any-notions-room-to-improves-katie-on-clashes-with-dermot-bannon-36753363.html

Nonoperational

Every week people take it so personally. It's a bit of light entertainment for an hour a week and in the end it looked like they got on fine. It's obviously edited a bit for some dramatic effect, same as it is every week.

Mountainsandh

True.
I don't even normally watch it as we've no tv, but when I saw how people on here were saying she was a rude biatch it really annoyed me.
I'd be the one normally to say when you go on reality programs you're exposing yourself to criticism, but that's not blind dates or something like that, it's really a one off, seems harsh to lambast someone on the basis of a one off edited show.

Dtp1979

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

For her sake i hope shes busy watching tv in her snug room or making tea in china cups rather than reading this.
Is it the most talked about episode ever?

It’s up there with yer one who made her hubby keep his all Ireland hurling medals hidden and proudly showed off his testicles in a glass box on the mantle piece. From Tipp too. Wonder if there’s something in the water there

Mountainsandh

Dtp1979 wrote: »

It’s up there with yer one who made her hubby keep his all Ireland hurling medals hidden and proudly showed off his testicles in a glass box on the mantle piece. From Tipp too. Wonder if there’s something in the water there

WTFF ? :eek::eek::eek:

Addle

freshpopcorn wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/i-dont-have-any-notions-room-to-improves-katie-on-clashes-with-dermot-bannon-36753363.html

I'd well believe her. I don't think the show gives a fully accurate account of any of the participants personalities, or even the building/designing process.

P. Breathnach

I'd be severely critical of the producer and editors for choosing to make somebody look bad just so they can have the appearance of conflict in the show. They are playing with real people who didn't sign up for that treatment.

Dermot has the advantage of experience, and knowing how the programme works. His clients don't.

Needles73

recipio wrote: »

In a previous life I used to do a lot of house calls to farmhouses. You wouldn't believe how people still live in rural Ireland.........

How "some" people still live in Ireland

spookwoman

P. Breathnach wrote: »

I'd be severely critical of the producer and editors for choosing to make somebody look bad just so they can have the appearance of conflict in the show. They are playing with real people who didn't sign up for that treatment.

Dermot has the advantage of experience, and knowing how the programme works. His clients don't.

We dont know if they did make her look bad or if she did that all by herself. No one forced her to say what she did or act the way she did though

freshpopcorn

To be honest my only concern for the woman is she isn't lonely in the big done up house. I think her mother had lots of friends/family around in Limerick think it was urban and it would be a lot more populated than where she is now.

Mountainsandh

freshpopcorn wrote: »

To be honest my only concern for the woman is she isn't lonely in the big done up house. I think her mother had lots of friends/family around in Limerick think it was urban and it would be a lot more populated than where she is now.

Where's the house Freshpopcorn did/do they say ?

freshpopcorn

Mountainsandh wrote: »

Where's the house Freshpopcorn did/do they say ?

It's in rural county Tipperary all they really siad was it was over looking the Galtee's!

iguana

I don't often watch RTI but I'd heard so much about this episode over the past few days that I had to watch it. I was expecting an awful woman and I just didn't really see it. First off, she was right. The kitchen was huge, there was no need for it to be even bigger with a couch down at the bottom. It would have looked stupid. And in a few years there is every likelihood that little sitting room will be rammed with toys and the ability to shut the door on the mess, will be very welcome. And a decade and a bit after that, there will be teenagers mooching about watching the 2031 equivalent of Netflix and the ability to shut the door on their mess will be very welcome. A big kitchen-diner, a sitting-room and a playroom/teen den is a fantastic layout for a family.

Secondly, I got the impression, especially at the end, that they have fairly immediate plans for a downstairs bedroom. Maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if there is already an infirm relative living with them or soon will be. Thirdly, Padraic seemed to have plenty of his own ideas and lines he wasn't willing to have crossed and Katie was speaking for both of them. Lastly, I felt that a lot of what she was saying was either very staged or extremely tongue in cheek. Her attempts at humour were in actuality very rude but I don't think she meant them as badly as they came across. I'm sure she was a bit of a bossy pita to work with and I wouldn't ever want someone like her to have any sort of position of authority over my child. But all in all, she wasn't a fraction as bad as I was expecting and I've met many a worse teacher.

iamwhoiam

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/go-back-to-dublin-with-yourself-dermot-bannon-we-re-grand-here-in-the-dark-1.3443289

This article made me laugh !

The penultimate episode (last Sunday, RTÉ One) is a classic. Dermot is faced with his worst enemy, farm folk who have no truck with his metropolitan notions. Bigger windows? An open-plan kitchen-cum-diningroom? Natural light? Would you go back to Dublin with yourself, we’re grand here in the dark. Over the course of the show, china-collecting teacher Katie and taciturn farmer Pádraig slowly drive Dermot to the brink of madness.

Singer

iamwhoiam wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/go-back-to-dublin-with-yourself-dermot-bannon-we-re-grand-here-in-the-dark-1.3443289

This article made me laugh !

The line about the greenhouse nearly killed me.

honeybear

Finally got to watch all of programme. Lovely house at the end. The China cabinets are awful though

evolving_doors

iamwhoiam wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/go-back-to-dublin-with-yourself-dermot-bannon-we-re-grand-here-in-the-dark-1.3443289

This article made me laugh !

The penultimate episode (last Sunday, RTÉ One) is a classic. Dermot is faced with his worst enemy, farm folk who have no truck with his metropolitan notions. Bigger windows? An open-plan kitchen-cum-diningroom? Natural light? Would you go back to Dublin with yourself, we’re grand here in the dark. Over the course of the show, china-collecting teacher Katie and taciturn farmer Pádraig slowly drive Dermot to the brink of madness.

That was a funny article.

ShamoBuc

Tonight they agree with everything Dermot wants, he says he's not used to that. They even have the budget for what he wants to do, finishing on a high this year it seems.