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IFA insurance

  • 04-05-2013 1:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭


    hi folks,im thinking of getting insurance with IFA countryside,i shoot with a .17 hmr,do you think i would have a better chance of getting new permissions with insurance? or is it worth getting,thanks all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,203 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    You should have insurance anyway mate
    Anything can happen when your out shooting
    Not worth the risk without it
    And yes most farmers will ask you if you have insurance and will ask for proof
    IFA send out a card with name and insurance number on it like a bank card
    Show them that and they'd be a lot more comfortable with you shooting on the land


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭pheasntstalker


    :o sorry sniperman for hijackin ur post but as its simuler question I was goin to ask im also looking at ins and who gives the best cover,but main question is do ifa or other insurers ins cover your dogs ie for theft injury vets etc, as I cant find on any of the sites ive bein on anything about insuring ur dogs? sorry again sniper


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Yes. From their website.
    Q). Does the Policy cover all my dogs?

    A.) Yes, dogs in your ownership are covered automatically, even while unlicensed. However it facilitates claims in proving ownership when the dog is registered and/or licensed to you

    IFA, and i think the CAI cover people individually so that is why it appeals to most. There are other companies/organisations, but they are club only meaning no individual coverage.

    So if you are looking for coverage and are not a member of a club it would be your only option.

    @ OP - Insurance, i find, is a huge help. It puts the land owners mind at ease that you will not claim of his insurance should he give you permission to shoot the lands. As such it does open doors in that land owners are more willing to give you permission, and once one does it chances are you will get surrounding lands owned by others as time goes on.


    On a personal note if for not other reason than to cover yourself then yes you should get some sort of cover. God forbid an accident happens. What happens to you, your family in terms of bills, medical expenses, etc.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭pheasntstalker


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    Cass wrote: »
    Yes. From their website.


    IFA, and i think the CAI cover people individually so that is why it appeals to most. There are other companies/organisations, but they are club only meaning no individual coverage.

    So if you are looking for coverage and are not a member of a club it would be your only option.

    @ OP - Insurance, i find, is a huge help. It puts the land owners mind at ease that you will not claim of his insurance should he give you permission to shoot the lands. As such it does open doors in that land owners are more willing to give you permission, and once one does it chances are you will get surrounding lands owned by others as time goes on.


    On a personal note if for not other reason than to cover yourself then yes you should get some sort of cover. God forbid an accident happens. What happens to you, your family in terms of bills, medical expenses, etc.
    thanks cass sorry now is that from ifa site? I must be blind not to see that if it is:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭pheasntstalker


    thanks again cass, I never looked at faqs ,dohh! excuse me for a sec til I adminstir a swift kick up ones backside and book a session in specsavers:o:o:o


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Not to worry. It's well buried in there.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭sniperman


    :o sorry sniperman for hijackin ur post but as its simuler question I was goin to ask im also looking at ins and who gives the best cover,but main question is do ifa or other insurers ins cover your dogs ie for theft injury vets etc, as I cant find on any of the sites ive bein on anything about insuring ur dogs? sorry again sniper
    hi,as cass said:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭steyrman2


    Hi on paper nargc fund is better but it can be hard enough to get into a gunclub here are the differances below
    PUBLIC LIABILITY

    Protection Area

    Fund - €10.0m All EU countries
    CAI - €12.0m Wherever Irish
    jurisdiction applies
    C’side IFA - € 2.6m * Rep of Ireland only
    * For an extra €10/person per annum, you have an option to purchase
    €6.5m cover !


    PERSONAL ACCIDENT COVER

    FUND CAI IFA
    Death €100K €17K €30K
    Limb/Eye Loss €100K €33K €15K
    Disability €350/wk Nil €600/wk
    for 52 wks/ GP Cert only while in hospital only
    Medical fees €2K €5K Nil
    Perm. Disability €100K €33K €25K
    Age limits None Under 80 18 to 74


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Tawny Owl


    sniperman wrote: »
    hi folks,im thinking of getting insurance with IFA countryside,i shoot with a .17 hmr,do you think i would have a better chance of getting new permissions with insurance? or is it worth getting,thanks all

    Are you a member of of a Club or shoot on your own, if so I strongly advise getting Insurance ,I look after 40 Members in my Club with IFA and they are very good as an Insurance Company,Please get Insurance for yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,195 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Anyone able to answer this one?
    Does the IFA insurance cover you for incidents/accidents outside the ROI??:confused:
    The litature doesnt tell me much on this,and ringing this lot gets me " person will get back to you today on this."
    So anyone know?
    Grizz

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Yup.

    From their website:
    Q.) Does the Policy cover me while hunting outside Ireland?
    A.) Yes, the policy covers Irish Citizens worldwide for any period up to 60 days once you are normally resident in Ireland, i.e. for hunting trips to Europe, Africa, America, etc
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Their FAQ section seems to cover most questions.
    Forum Charter - Useful Information - Photo thread: Hardware - Ranges by County - Hunting Laws/Important threads - Upcoming Events - RFDs by County

    If you see a problem post use the report post function. Click on the three dots on the post, select "FLAG" & let a Moderator deal with it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭One shot on kill


    Cass wrote: »
    Their FAQ section seems to cover most questions.



    Just looked over that there.

    In question 7 it says your covered for clay shooting and so on. Then in question 23ish it says you need extra cover for clay shoots and hill walks etc where members of the public are present.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    In question 7 it says your covered for clay shooting and so on.

    Then in question 23ish it says you need extra cover for clay shoots and hill walks etc where members of the public are present.

    Is that the difference between a Formal Shoot and a Informal Shoot???

    Although it sounds like most insurance policies though...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    That's most likely the difference.

    You are covered for "official" shoots, but if you decide to head down the bog with a few friends, and some clays where others are watching then you need extra coverage. The main theme there seems to be were members of the public are.

    IOW outside a clay range were non shooters may be in "harms way".
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭One shot on kill


    Oh right ok I get what your saying.

    It's a bit weird doe if your shooting on the bog legally it should be covered because if there is members of the public around sure that's why you have insurance in the first place.

    I know no one here writes the legislation for insurance (I think ) its just a bit funny if that's the way it is.

    There is another one if your in a game gun club and your insurance is with IFA are you covered to head of deer stalking one day. Shooting clays in a registered range the next day and on another day go enter a rifle compition another day.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Yes.

    Obviously you need to confirm the details of your policy before buying it, but i have IFA (and a second policy through another club), and it covers me for all the above.
    Forum Charter - Useful Information - Photo thread: Hardware - Ranges by County - Hunting Laws/Important threads - Upcoming Events - RFDs by County

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭One shot on kill


    Best thing to do is ring them tommorow and just ask the Q. Just to make sure its not a modified policy for game clubs.

    I think your right doe you are covered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    You really need to look at the Policies before deciding on which one to go with.
    Most Countryside/shooting/hunting insurances are insurance of last resort.
    Most payout for injuries covered are only for permanent disability.


    I accept the difficulties of getting into the NARGC fund, but from my own experiences there is never a quibble with a claim even for non permanent disability arising from an accident.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    This comes up every time insurance is mentioned. "The NARGC is so much better than X, Y, and Z".

    What good is it if the person is not in a club as they don't accept individual applications for their Compensation Fund.. If he were in a club he would already be covered. As he is not then it's not an option.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭sniperman


    thanks all for replies,all i really want is something to show land owners that i am covered when im looking for permission to shoot on their land,saying to a land owner that one is insured,and producing some sort of card,may get me more yes than no,so IFA at €70 per year seems good enough for me,again thanks all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭One shot on kill


    sniperman wrote: »
    thanks all for replies,all i really want is something to show land owners that i am covered when im looking for permission to shoot on their land,saying to a land owner that one is insured,and producing some sort of card,may get me more yes than no,so IFA at €70 per year seems good enough for me,again thanks all


    70 euro a year. Then the vouchers and deals you get on top of your policy aswell Vodafone etc.


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