What do you hate about Irish Media - Papers / TV / Radio

IM0

sensationism

I don't read newspapers (find out what's happening in the world from AH) but I do turn on BBC news in the morning while I am getting ready for work.

I do turn on TV3 at 8am for the news report but they never report the news at 8am so, after 30 vomit inducing seconds listening to those 4 sh1te presenters talking about what they know best, (sh1te), I turn off. God knows how long they talk for before they allow you to hear the news.

Then there's the daytime show with the 4-5 women on it. Not loose women (I like that one) but the one on RTE or TV3 around lunchtime. I haven't seen it in years but I watched it once, and once only.

It was in 2008/09 and I was unemployed at the time due to the downturn. There was this snooty nosed madam on it telling us that we should be buying a full chicken for €16 and that she could feed her whole family that one meal for about €25 and she was so great and the 4 chicken breasts in supervalu for a fiver was disgusting tack. Oi, ye stupid cow, I can just about afford supervalus deal right now so you and your posh chicken can go stuff yerselfs!

Talk about being out of touch with the new daytime TV demographic that surfaced in 08. I have no idea if the show is still on.

Jeez, that memory grates on me lol

Merkin

Two words:

Ryan Tubridy

razorblunt

Barry focking Egan

Merkin

Oh, and INM and all the utter rags under that umbrella

hyperborean

Irish mainstream journalism is of a very low standard, RTE, the Indo and the the Times being the the "best" we have is sad really.

For Forks Sake

1. The continued and puzzling existence of the Sindo. Why anyone would pay money for content composed by the likes of Brendan O'Connor is beyond me.
2. See above, but for the 'Irish' Daily Fail and it's sunday version.

ben.schlomo

barneysplash wrote: »

Hi all

I don't usually post these kind of threads but I feel I have to ask if
there is anyone else out there who feels the same. It's just some things
that I see again and again on telly, radio or in the papers,
it feels like painting by numbers:

The Irish Times
Our "paper of national record" is really mediocre. It's like Marks & Spencer corn flakes -
overpriced, edible but they soon get boring.

Those cartoons - Look it's the Irish taxpayer, a man done up in a patchy
suit with holes in it. And there is the government character with a big bag
marked "pensions" and those little things in the corner, saying something
about "this wouldn't happen if..." or something about the 1913 lock-out.

Miriam Lord's Dail Sketch - a "satirical" look at our government that
usually ends up reading like a backslapping after dinner speech at
a civil servant's retirement party.
". ...and Enda's so dull he's fifty shades of grey."

Ross O'Carroll Kelly - far past his sell-by date. This was a a once humerous
send-up of the lives of the rich and privieleged. Paul Howard continues
to reinforce the truth that his creation is a one trick pony that is being milked
for all the money available.

Those television adverts - "The story of why" Having some chap
in a room full of post-it notes and newspapers going on about how stories are vital -
positive re-enforcement post purchase marketing at it's best.

The Saturday Magazine - Something about a new family-friendly bicycle holiday
center in Cork that is a "real" holiday, and will give you mental closure about your
shopping trips to New York in 2006.

Roisin Ingle's diary - Her colums read like someone who is trying to
hypnotize their readers into believing that she is the next Maeve Binchy /
Mammy of the Nation. "Oh, and I've just written a lovely novel about a
family that moves from Dublin 4 to Connemara to renovate an old cinema."

The going up and down meter "loving those velvet shoobs!"
"Artisan ice-cream made from cows who only speak Irish"
"Craft Beer brewed by former estate agent turned subsistence farmer."

And yet another cooking feature with a pornographic close up of a stir-fry or
picture of a salmon dish done with lemons that takes up most of the page.

RTE Six-One
Brian Dobson standing up when reading the news.
It's going to be bad news, whatever the story.


RTE Radio
Joseph O'Connor doing his readings on RTE Radio 1. "I am the
self-appointed spokesperson for the arts and modern poerty. You will not
feature anyone else doing a routine about those old school books
we had years ago, or how we all lost our way with the Celtic Tiger."
"By the way I have a new compilation of my speeches and ramblings out now
at €16.95. Yes, that's an oil painting of yours truly on the cover with my suit
jacket, complete with anarchy badge, and intellectual looking glasses. Buy it now."

Hector Ó hEochagáin's Blarney-a-thon
"Ho-ho keep her lit"
"Be the hokey"
I'd say he sits there in the studio spouting this drivel, with his eyes closed,
counting his money into big wads before wrapping them with rubber bands
and putting them in old USA Biscuit Tins. "Go on you good thing!"

You eat your newspaper? Probably where you are going wrong.

donegal_road

its hard to believe that to this day, RTE will halt everything twice a day to play the angelus.

greenpilot

Just a point...most of the "media" mentioned in this thread is totally dublin-centric....there are 3 million people outside the Pale who subscribe to more than RTE and the Irish Times, you know. Irish Journalism is alive and well, when you cut out the Dublin ****e.

For Forks Sake

greenpilot wrote: »

Just a point...most of the "media" mentioned in this thread is totally dublin-centric....there are 3 million people outside the Pale who subscribe to more than RTE and the Irish Times, you know. Irish Journalism is alive and well, when you cut out the Dublin ****e.

And who owns most of the regional titles? That's right, either INM or Crosbie holdings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Independent_News_%26_Media

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Thomas_Crosbie_Holdings

bgrizzley

donegal_road wrote: »

its hard to believe that to this day, RTE will halt everything twice a day to play the angelus.

although, it will be interesting hearing the theme from Star Wars once the Jedis overtake the Catholics....

http://www.dailyedge.ie/a-td-wants-to-know-how-many-jedi-knights-are-there-in-ireland-438677-May2012/

Peregrine

RTE News is ****e

Hate the Independent and TV3

All tabloids are full of exaggerated crap

thejournal is populist non sense but the commenters bother me more

The Times was okay but is getting worse, still the main news website I use along with the Examiner, rarely buy the physical newspaper. Also, Roisin Ingle should be shot.

oppenheimer1

barneysplash wrote: »

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RTE Radio
Joseph O'Connor doing his readings on RTE Radio 1. "I am the
self-appointed spokesperson for the arts and modern poerty. You will not
feature anyone else doing a routine about those old school books
we had years ago, or how we all lost our way with the Celtic Tiger."
"By the way I have a new compilation of my speeches and ramblings out now
at €16.95. Yes, that's an oil painting of yours truly on the cover with my suit
jacket, complete with anarchy badge, and intellectual looking glasses. Buy it now."

Hector Ó hEochagáin's Blarney-a-thon
"Ho-ho keep her lit"
"Be the hokey"
I'd say he sits there in the studio spouting this drivel, with his eyes closed,
counting his money into big wads before wrapping them with rubber bands
and putting them in old USA Biscuit Tins. "Go on you good thing!"

May I add Olivia O'Leary to that list. She is worse than Joseph O'Connor.

cournioni

The complete lack of research before publishing. It really gets on my tits.

LordSutch

Re Irish TV & Radio:
I hate the way they say, joining me now "In Studio" is. You are all welcome "To Studio". Now back "To Studio". Now my guests "In Studio" are . . .

What the hell is this obsession with bloody "In studio" in Irish TV/Radio? I mean like ok, so you are in a studio (Big deal) and so what? I mean its the obvious & obsessive reference to the Studio that irks me. The contrast is stark if you flick between Irish Radio/TV stations and UK ones, where the "In Studio" mantra is totally absent. They have much more informal & creative ways of introducing guests.

Oh that bloody "In studio" thing drives me mad :mad:

Breath in, and relax

ONeill2013

i agree with the comment with the Sunday World newspaper, I don't know if the one in NI is the same as ROI? I wonder how many times the words loyalist/republican/UVF/IRA/UDA/shot/adams/paisley are used in one issue of it, I must count the next time I have spare time.

heartseeker

The liberal agenda capitalizing on the demise of the church in its quest to rob children of any sense of values or Morales.2fm is a joke in terms of idiotic material gibberish which gets mindnumbing and soul crushing after more than ten minutes.ryan tubridy is bad no doubt but Colm hayes has to be one of the greatest unfunny unhip buffoons to have graced the airwaves in decades.His continual showbiz gossip sections with Lottie Ryan are so irritating and vacuous that to listen is a form of deadly brain cancer.

Amirani

greenpilot wrote: »

Just a point...most of the "media" mentioned in this thread is totally dublin-centric....there are 3 million people outside the Pale who subscribe to more than RTE and the Irish Times, you know. Irish Journalism is alive and well, when you cut out the Dublin ****e.

Yep, I'm a big fan of the cutting edge Irish journalism emanating from the Leitrim Observer, World renowned at this stage.

lovesfatgirls

i hate everything about it, everything. irish media infuriates me to the point where i want to damage my frontal lobe to see if i can understand some of the perspectives/logic of it all.

also why is any news in this country always 2 weeks behind, unless it relates to someones lost dog who ate a lump of chocolate before he went missing and got the the couch pregnant or some such?

does this thread include music and so forth?

starviewadams

They're all the same.

Irish media is an oxymoron,they all feed from the same Terry Prone trough.

Caribbean Cat

Everything.The national papers are obsessed with either criminals and/or silly Dublin 4 types, neither which make interesting reading, the regional papers have the local farmer pointing at a gate that had been broken into or a pothole that has not been filled.I buy the Sunday Times myself just because it actually is worth reading and it takes a day for me to read. I find it very informative, even in tricky matters such as Ireland-England..sorry,Britain..

razorblunt

Oh another thing, Brian Ormonds wrinkly face reminds me of Luke perry in the Simpsons.

Grayson

cournioni wrote: »

The complete lack of research before publishing. It really gets on my tits.

I don't know if people remember but P45.net got a few fake stories into the papers back in the day.

They decided to make an urban legend and see how hard/easy it would be to spread. They typed up a news story and mailed it to everyone they knew. It was about a couple from the gaelteacht who were arrested at a 4th of July celebration in Springfield, Ohio. Some specially trained linguistics agents from the FBI heard them speaking irish and didn't recognise the language. So they were pulled in for questioning and held for 24 hours until the irish embassy sorted it out. A complete load of bollox, but something that people could kinda believe back in 2002/2003.

That was about 1pm. By 5pm in was on breaking news websites. That evening it was on fox news. The next day the star and a few other papers ran it, but the star added in extra information that wasn't in the original made up story.
After a couple of days it was exposed as a hoax when a US paper from springfield heard about it and investigated it. All the irish papers had run the story without checking a single fact(Although to be fair I don't think the IT ran it).

A few months later they released another fake story. It was about Berlesconi demanding that the national gallery return all the Caravaggios. I believe the made up quote they used was that berlesconi said Irish people couldn't appreciate art and "Potato-eaters give us back our art".
The Indo ran it on the front page. (I tried finding their archives. they used to have a PDF of every front page there but it appears to be gone. On the PDF for that day, they just cut out the offending news story.

Here's a link with a few of the other stories they managed to get irish papers to run.
http://blather.net/blather/2003/11/knick_knack_paddy_hack.html
http://www.hotpress.com/archive/2679110.html

And that's the main reason I won't buy the Indo. Cheap copy journalism at it's worst. They spend more money on opinion and gossip than on news.

EDIT: here's a bit from the blather article listing the article.

Since we're coming clean, because 5-7 Live exposed us yesterday, yes, P45.net did write the following stories of recent months: Monaghan Association in New York St Patrick's Day Parade Row; Mysterious underground tunnels under Clontarf; new taxi fleet to offer cheap fares to dublin airport; New minimum walking speed for Dublin; Liam Lawlor - the movie; Glenn Crowe to become first Eircom League million transfer; Berlusconi demands immediate repatriation of 'Ireland's' Caravaggio. In case you missed the originals....

Grayson

heartseeker wrote: »

The liberal agenda capitalizing on the demise of the church in its quest to rob children of any sense of values or Morales.

So, is the media trying to rob children of values or is it capitalising on a religion which is robbing children of it's innocence? It's a confusing sentance.

If it's the first i don't think anyone needs to worry about Kids. Most kids read the beano, not the IT.

CaraMay

I'm sick and tired of looking at Kathryn Thomas. She is on everything. Who cares about her ex the cop. Mother of god is there no one else to present a programme or to write about.

jack presley

I hate the way after a suspicious death, every website includes a variation of the sentence "the scene has been preserved and the state pathologist has been notified". Really?

thiarfearr

The arrogant, self importance, particularly evident during the last Presidential election. RTE showed a program about journalists following around the candidates, the comment from Brian Keenan at the end summed it up

The winner of this election has been the media, the media won. We journalists picked people up as candidates, slapped them around for a few days like a schoolboy with a fly or an insect, and then when we got tired of them, we put them down and moved on and did the same thing to the next candidate. And I would think, this is the way it should be

CaraMay

Oh and everytime there is a murder or shooting in a neighbourhood, the residents interviewed always say 'we are so shocked, nothing like this ever happens around here' every single time.

Capt'n Midnight

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The problem with everything media over here is that we are situated next to an island where they generally do things right

now if we were located next to Burma our media might not look so mickey mouse

It's not so much that they do it right over there. Phone hacking etc. It's that when they do something wrong they are held to account. Same with politicians. Compare going to prison over for trying to evade penalty points with someone here on the House Committee on Ethics completely taking the píss with the High Court.


Also our libel laws stiffled real journalism