What do you hate about Irish Media - Papers / TV / Radio

barneysplash

Hi all

I don't usually post these kind of threads but I feel I have to ask if
there is anyone else out there who feels the same. It's just some things
that I see again and again on telly, radio or in the papers,
it feels like painting by numbers:

The Irish Times
Our "paper of national record" is really mediocre. It's like Marks & Spencer corn flakes -
overpriced, edible but they soon get boring.

Those cartoons - Look it's the Irish taxpayer, a man done up in a patchy
suit with holes in it. And there is the government character with a big bag
marked "pensions" and those little things in the corner, saying something
about "this wouldn't happen if..." or something about the 1913 lock-out.

Miriam Lord's Dail Sketch - a "satirical" look at our government that
usually ends up reading like a backslapping after dinner speech at
a civil servant's retirement party.
". ...and Enda's so dull he's fifty shades of grey."

Ross O'Carroll Kelly - far past his sell-by date. This was a a once humerous
send-up of the lives of the rich and privieleged. Paul Howard continues
to reinforce the truth that his creation is a one trick pony that is being milked
for all the money available.

Those television adverts - "The story of why" Having some chap
in a room full of post-it notes and newspapers going on about how stories are vital -
positive re-enforcement post purchase marketing at it's best.

The Saturday Magazine - Something about a new family-friendly bicycle holiday
center in Cork that is a "real" holiday, and will give you mental closure about your
shopping trips to New York in 2006.

Roisin Ingle's diary - Her colums read like someone who is trying to
hypnotize their readers into believing that she is the next Maeve Binchy /
Mammy of the Nation. "Oh, and I've just written a lovely novel about a
family that moves from Dublin 4 to Connemara to renovate an old cinema."

The going up and down meter "loving those velvet shoobs!"
"Artisan ice-cream made from cows who only speak Irish"
"Craft Beer brewed by former estate agent turned subsistence farmer."

And yet another cooking feature with a pornographic close up of a stir-fry or
picture of a salmon dish done with lemons that takes up most of the page.

RTE Six-One
Brian Dobson standing up when reading the news.
It's going to be bad news, whatever the story.


RTE Radio
Joseph O'Connor doing his readings on RTE Radio 1. "I am the
self-appointed spokesperson for the arts and modern poerty. You will not
feature anyone else doing a routine about those old school books
we had years ago, or how we all lost our way with the Celtic Tiger."
"By the way I have a new compilation of my speeches and ramblings out now
at €16.95. Yes, that's an oil painting of yours truly on the cover with my suit
jacket, complete with anarchy badge, and intellectual looking glasses. Buy it now."

Hector Ó hEochagáin's Blarney-a-thon
"Ho-ho keep her lit"
"Be the hokey"
I'd say he sits there in the studio spouting this drivel, with his eyes closed,
counting his money into big wads before wrapping them with rubber bands
and putting them in old USA Biscuit Tins. "Go on you good thing!"

frozenfrozen

too long, use internet

mike65

Radio - same handful of frequently discredited "expert" voices with long held opinions that never change regardless of the circumstances. Poor diction

TV - see above.

Press - see above with but poor sub-editing.

castletownman

The Life magazine of the Sunday Independent. Still showcasing the lives of the general nobodies and z listers who "made it" during the Celtic Tiger and are for some reason still in the public domain today

squod

No page three.

Nichololas

John Waters.

SEPT 23 1989

The problem with everything media over here is that we are situated next to an island where they generally do things right

now if we were located next to Burma our media might not look so mickey mouse

Duvetdays

Hector

mcwinning

Joe Duffy and his crusade to give every idiot with a stupid agenda airtime on national media.

barneysplash

Nichololas wrote: »

John Waters.

What is the story with the new portrait that accompanies his column?

He looks very provocative, like "I'm telling it like it is, you can't handle
what I'm laying down. I'm not just a right-wing hack in a shabby old
jacket, trying to passing myself off as an academic/journalist/Ireland's
answer to Noam Chomsky."

Stavro Mueller

I hate the lack of choice out there. Especially on a Sunday. If you want an Irish newspaper on a Sunday, rather than a British one with some Irish pages tacked onto it, the choice is piss poor. What are you left with? The Sindo, the Sunday Business Post or the Sunday World.

donvito99

I liked the Irish Times, you got more bang for your books a few years back.

The paper has gotten thinner and thinner, and whiter and whiter in recent years.

I have never bought any other paper though, apart from the Evening Herald, club results and features and what not.

barneysplash

cymbaline wrote: »

What are you left with? The Sindo,

"The Dublin 2 Restaurant Reviewer."

cymbaline wrote: »

the Sunday Business Post

"Organic Chickpeas & Luxury Car Advertiser, incorporating "The Ethical Tourist's Wall Street Digest"

cymbaline wrote: »

or the Sunday World.

"The Violent Crime Stereotype Fanzine"

Butterface

I gave up on Irish Sunday newspapers a long time ago. If I'm at the parent's house they'll have the Sunday Independent lying around, and that Life magazine is the WORST. They haven't changed the format in years.. which is probably the prevailing feature of Irish media. NOTHING CHANGES.

lahalane

The Sunday World bugs me. My family used to buy it but I stopped reading it when the front page was about how Bono made her day by walking her up the aisle at her wedding. Id say her new husband was delighted to hear that. Tabloids in general piss me off with their non-news articles and sensational headlines that are more often than not, total bull**** or highlighting the irrelevant part. I'm sure there's papers like that in most countries though.

Stavro Mueller

The Sunday World's read by people who don't really want to read any news.

michael999999

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The problem with everything media over here is that we are situated next to an island where they generally do things right

now if we were located next to Burma our media might not look so mickey mouse

Hhmmmm...like bugging dead kids phones?

smash

A big problem with the media here is that a large portion of it is owned by 1 person so you'll never get a proper balanced opinion. Everyone has an agenda of their own but media monopolies are bad.

michael999999

Oh and Paul Williams!

I only buy newspaper occasionally now, I use to buy the Irish times every day and two Sunday papers,

I buy the Guardian or the Telegraph occasionally now as well as the Irish time.

Can't stand columnist like Noel Whelen and the like, they seem to long for a time when something like the abortion debate would be more heated and they long for the days of cute hoors in the Dali. They don't seem to understand that Ireland has moved on and people are a lot more knowledgeable it is not 1970 any more.

Prime time is the star of the show on RTE, I also like the Pat Kenny show, but turn off if its not interesting,

News Talke is okay except for Gorge Hook ( he is a idiot IMO )

The Independent is a rag

donvito99

The Telegraph is great until you get to the cringey Conservative opinion, it's like a printed Fox News at times.

barneysplash

mariaalice wrote: »

The Independent is a rag

Yes, Ian O'Doherty does enjoy recycling old Bill Hicks material
and passing it off as clever swipes at the establishment.

He's so dangerous in his jeans and t-shirt. "This man could
say anything!" But he will usually wind up saying something about
how the Church ruined the country or how Rhianna is a bad role
model.

Here's a sparkling aside to give you all a quick keyboard break:

orestes

The fact that they steal so much of their stuff from here and even then they manage to butcher and misreport it.

"Irish people outraged at *insert something here*"

Members of the Irish public are expressing their outrage about something that has happened recently. We don't really know what happened, and neither does anybody else, so rather than admit that there's no real story here or that nobody gives a flying feck about this thing that apparently happened, we went onto boards and had a look through a few threads on After Hours and here's some completely out of context posts that we have edited the hell out of. Well, we're not gonna tell you that of course, and this way it will look like everyone on boards actually ripped us off by the time we get the story out, so fukk it. Anyway, here's the shocking news thingy about that thing that we were talking about:

User 1: I don't know what happened, and I don't care, everyone on here is going to blame on the foreigners anyway"

One dis-affected member of the public stated categorically that they "don't care" about what has happened, and suggested that they feel immigrants might eventually be found to be the root of the problem. The level of apathy amongst members of the public about things can clearly be seen to be growing based on this single misrepresentation of one cynical internet forum user that we didn't even manage to understand properly.

This is yet another example of a growing trend of things that we know nothing about that we have just tried to back up with random bits of idiocy since we're too lazy or incompetent to do our own work.

Last week we broke the sensational story of how apparently 44% of the population feel that the hitherto unknown "Atari Jaguar" terrorist organisation are believed to be responsible for the ongoing troubles in Northern Ireland, and last year one particularly lazy-arsed journalist wrote an entire expose report on teenagers around the country apparently being fascinated with hosing one another with each others urine, or in more extreme cases each others mothers. Thankfully, this horrifying practice seems to have stopped in recent times, thanks to the entire sub-culture being brought into the light of day.

So, in closing, I can't believe you're even still reading this piece of sh!t so-called journalism, but I know that you're going to quote it to your mates down the pub because it sounds so dramatic and interesting.

In other news, internet bullies are believed to be gathering in special sections of the internet known as "Thunderdomes" in order to co-ordinate and practice their cruel methods of abuse before unleashing their evil on unsuspecting members of the public. Full story tomorrow.

Fighting Irish

lol @ reading papers and watching the news

keith16

RTE.ie is the worst website in the World

In particular, their 'live text coverage' of football or rugby games is shockingly bad. They really shouldn't even bother. Poor spelling and grammar, inappropriate colloquialisms, absolutely no insight or humor and a general stink of trying too hard. In fact, these criticisms can be extended site wide.

The GAA live coverage is also full of emails and tweets from the diaspora, each one aiming to outdo the last location wise.

Here's a tweet from Pat who is watching the game LIVE in California no less:

@rte.gaa.whocares. "Hi Padraig, a big hello here from sunny California. Actually it's not sunny here just now as it's night time. Walking around for the last half an hour trying to find a bar showing the game. Any ideas? Looking forward to a Cork win"

Ha ha, jaysis, good man Pat, California ha? You'll be doing well to find a few hang sangwiches and a Guinness, never mind the feicin match. Oh and what's this? Another tweet? This one is from Sean who is watching all the way from Jupiter's innermost Gallilean moon, Ganymede:

@rte.gaa.zzzzzzz "Er, yeah, hello Padraig? Oxegen levels are low. No food or water. Send help. Up Cork."

Haha, you won't find too many Cork men on Ganymede today, that's for shure! Ha, sure it must be 4 in the morning there?

barneysplash

Presenters favourite phrases : (not actual quotes, but you get the idea)

Ray D'Arcy "As a nation"

"Listening to your story, I think there's a sense that, as a nation, we
have changed, for the worse."

"We all started becoming more confident is ourselves around the time of Italia 90.
It was a turning point in our way of life, as a nation."

"There's a real sense of betrayl out there that the man in the street is feeling that,
as a nation, we've been let down by our leaders."


Ryan Tubridy - "The Kennedys"

"We have to remember the great links between our nations, the Irish that built
America, The Kennedys, the diaspora, the legacy of the famine."

"There is a sense that the world will always look to America, freedom, The Kennedys,
self-expression, freedom of speech, freedom to start a business.


Miriam O'Callaghan - "Unnecessarily using the person's full name"

"Eamon Gilmore, you have said that you like oranges."

"Mary Lou McDonald, you are on record as saying you like apples."

"Can I go to you first, Micheal Martin, you say don't approve of grapes?"

irishfeen

Hate is a strong word by ya I suppose I do hate TV3 and their Talifornia and Expose s.hite.

Nodin

Denis O'Brien. The Sindo and all its works.

Barna77

Giving too much time/space/attention to anything that happens in the UK. Not to mention Brit sports....

wyrn

I used to love reading thejournal.ie but now it's just lists of things and pictures of cats (and I love cats but enough is enough).

For example

• 8 everyday items you’ll probably never see again
• 22 signs you’re a sports fan from Limerick
• 9 foolproof ways to get ahead in the office
• 6 nuggets of wisdom from 1980s Don Draper
• 8 everyday things you’re probably doing wrong
• 13 pieces of evidence that Amazon reviewers are better than all of us

BillyMitchel

Paul Williams.

All the stupid names they come up with for the gangsters.

Irish media in general is fairly annoying.

IM0

sensationism

I don't read newspapers (find out what's happening in the world from AH) but I do turn on BBC news in the morning while I am getting ready for work.

I do turn on TV3 at 8am for the news report but they never report the news at 8am so, after 30 vomit inducing seconds listening to those 4 sh1te presenters talking about what they know best, (sh1te), I turn off. God knows how long they talk for before they allow you to hear the news.

Then there's the daytime show with the 4-5 women on it. Not loose women (I like that one) but the one on RTE or TV3 around lunchtime. I haven't seen it in years but I watched it once, and once only.

It was in 2008/09 and I was unemployed at the time due to the downturn. There was this snooty nosed madam on it telling us that we should be buying a full chicken for €16 and that she could feed her whole family that one meal for about €25 and she was so great and the 4 chicken breasts in supervalu for a fiver was disgusting tack. Oi, ye stupid cow, I can just about afford supervalus deal right now so you and your posh chicken can go stuff yerselfs!

Talk about being out of touch with the new daytime TV demographic that surfaced in 08. I have no idea if the show is still on.

Jeez, that memory grates on me lol

Merkin

Two words:

Ryan Tubridy

razorblunt

Barry focking Egan

Merkin

Oh, and INM and all the utter rags under that umbrella

hyperborean

Irish mainstream journalism is of a very low standard, RTE, the Indo and the the Times being the the "best" we have is sad really.

For Forks Sake

1. The continued and puzzling existence of the Sindo. Why anyone would pay money for content composed by the likes of Brendan O'Connor is beyond me.
2. See above, but for the 'Irish' Daily Fail and it's sunday version.

ben.schlomo

barneysplash wrote: »

Hi all

I don't usually post these kind of threads but I feel I have to ask if
there is anyone else out there who feels the same. It's just some things
that I see again and again on telly, radio or in the papers,
it feels like painting by numbers:

The Irish Times
Our "paper of national record" is really mediocre. It's like Marks & Spencer corn flakes -
overpriced, edible but they soon get boring.

Those cartoons - Look it's the Irish taxpayer, a man done up in a patchy
suit with holes in it. And there is the government character with a big bag
marked "pensions" and those little things in the corner, saying something
about "this wouldn't happen if..." or something about the 1913 lock-out.

Miriam Lord's Dail Sketch - a "satirical" look at our government that
usually ends up reading like a backslapping after dinner speech at
a civil servant's retirement party.
". ...and Enda's so dull he's fifty shades of grey."

Ross O'Carroll Kelly - far past his sell-by date. This was a a once humerous
send-up of the lives of the rich and privieleged. Paul Howard continues
to reinforce the truth that his creation is a one trick pony that is being milked
for all the money available.

Those television adverts - "The story of why" Having some chap
in a room full of post-it notes and newspapers going on about how stories are vital -
positive re-enforcement post purchase marketing at it's best.

The Saturday Magazine - Something about a new family-friendly bicycle holiday
center in Cork that is a "real" holiday, and will give you mental closure about your
shopping trips to New York in 2006.

Roisin Ingle's diary - Her colums read like someone who is trying to
hypnotize their readers into believing that she is the next Maeve Binchy /
Mammy of the Nation. "Oh, and I've just written a lovely novel about a
family that moves from Dublin 4 to Connemara to renovate an old cinema."

The going up and down meter "loving those velvet shoobs!"
"Artisan ice-cream made from cows who only speak Irish"
"Craft Beer brewed by former estate agent turned subsistence farmer."

And yet another cooking feature with a pornographic close up of a stir-fry or
picture of a salmon dish done with lemons that takes up most of the page.

RTE Six-One
Brian Dobson standing up when reading the news.
It's going to be bad news, whatever the story.


RTE Radio
Joseph O'Connor doing his readings on RTE Radio 1. "I am the
self-appointed spokesperson for the arts and modern poerty. You will not
feature anyone else doing a routine about those old school books
we had years ago, or how we all lost our way with the Celtic Tiger."
"By the way I have a new compilation of my speeches and ramblings out now
at €16.95. Yes, that's an oil painting of yours truly on the cover with my suit
jacket, complete with anarchy badge, and intellectual looking glasses. Buy it now."

Hector Ó hEochagáin's Blarney-a-thon
"Ho-ho keep her lit"
"Be the hokey"
I'd say he sits there in the studio spouting this drivel, with his eyes closed,
counting his money into big wads before wrapping them with rubber bands
and putting them in old USA Biscuit Tins. "Go on you good thing!"

You eat your newspaper? Probably where you are going wrong.

donegal_road

its hard to believe that to this day, RTE will halt everything twice a day to play the angelus.

greenpilot

Just a point...most of the "media" mentioned in this thread is totally dublin-centric....there are 3 million people outside the Pale who subscribe to more than RTE and the Irish Times, you know. Irish Journalism is alive and well, when you cut out the Dublin ****e.

For Forks Sake

greenpilot wrote: »

Just a point...most of the "media" mentioned in this thread is totally dublin-centric....there are 3 million people outside the Pale who subscribe to more than RTE and the Irish Times, you know. Irish Journalism is alive and well, when you cut out the Dublin ****e.

And who owns most of the regional titles? That's right, either INM or Crosbie holdings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Independent_News_%26_Media

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Thomas_Crosbie_Holdings

bgrizzley

donegal_road wrote: »

its hard to believe that to this day, RTE will halt everything twice a day to play the angelus.

although, it will be interesting hearing the theme from Star Wars once the Jedis overtake the Catholics....

http://www.dailyedge.ie/a-td-wants-to-know-how-many-jedi-knights-are-there-in-ireland-438677-May2012/

Peregrine

RTE News is ****e

Hate the Independent and TV3

All tabloids are full of exaggerated crap

thejournal is populist non sense but the commenters bother me more

The Times was okay but is getting worse, still the main news website I use along with the Examiner, rarely buy the physical newspaper. Also, Roisin Ingle should be shot.

oppenheimer1

barneysplash wrote: »

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RTE Radio
Joseph O'Connor doing his readings on RTE Radio 1. "I am the
self-appointed spokesperson for the arts and modern poerty. You will not
feature anyone else doing a routine about those old school books
we had years ago, or how we all lost our way with the Celtic Tiger."
"By the way I have a new compilation of my speeches and ramblings out now
at €16.95. Yes, that's an oil painting of yours truly on the cover with my suit
jacket, complete with anarchy badge, and intellectual looking glasses. Buy it now."

Hector Ó hEochagáin's Blarney-a-thon
"Ho-ho keep her lit"
"Be the hokey"
I'd say he sits there in the studio spouting this drivel, with his eyes closed,
counting his money into big wads before wrapping them with rubber bands
and putting them in old USA Biscuit Tins. "Go on you good thing!"

May I add Olivia O'Leary to that list. She is worse than Joseph O'Connor.

cournioni

The complete lack of research before publishing. It really gets on my tits.

LordSutch

Re Irish TV & Radio:
I hate the way they say, joining me now "In Studio" is. You are all welcome "To Studio". Now back "To Studio". Now my guests "In Studio" are . . .

What the hell is this obsession with bloody "In studio" in Irish TV/Radio? I mean like ok, so you are in a studio (Big deal) and so what? I mean its the obvious & obsessive reference to the Studio that irks me. The contrast is stark if you flick between Irish Radio/TV stations and UK ones, where the "In Studio" mantra is totally absent. They have much more informal & creative ways of introducing guests.

Oh that bloody "In studio" thing drives me mad :mad:

Breath in, and relax

ONeill2013

i agree with the comment with the Sunday World newspaper, I don't know if the one in NI is the same as ROI? I wonder how many times the words loyalist/republican/UVF/IRA/UDA/shot/adams/paisley are used in one issue of it, I must count the next time I have spare time.

heartseeker

The liberal agenda capitalizing on the demise of the church in its quest to rob children of any sense of values or Morales.2fm is a joke in terms of idiotic material gibberish which gets mindnumbing and soul crushing after more than ten minutes.ryan tubridy is bad no doubt but Colm hayes has to be one of the greatest unfunny unhip buffoons to have graced the airwaves in decades.His continual showbiz gossip sections with Lottie Ryan are so irritating and vacuous that to listen is a form of deadly brain cancer.

Amirani

greenpilot wrote: »

Just a point...most of the "media" mentioned in this thread is totally dublin-centric....there are 3 million people outside the Pale who subscribe to more than RTE and the Irish Times, you know. Irish Journalism is alive and well, when you cut out the Dublin ****e.

Yep, I'm a big fan of the cutting edge Irish journalism emanating from the Leitrim Observer, World renowned at this stage.

lovesfatgirls

i hate everything about it, everything. irish media infuriates me to the point where i want to damage my frontal lobe to see if i can understand some of the perspectives/logic of it all.

also why is any news in this country always 2 weeks behind, unless it relates to someones lost dog who ate a lump of chocolate before he went missing and got the the couch pregnant or some such?

does this thread include music and so forth?