Bankruptcy Irish Style

rodento

Couldn't believe it when I read the papers



Ger Killally, 42, a former Fianna Fail councillor and running mate of ex-taoiseach Brian Cowen, was driving from his luxury home in the townland of Shean, Edenderry, Co Offaly, this morning when he came
under attack.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/killally-family-lucky-to-escape-shooting-29238658.html

This guy is bankrupt with 73m in dept, living in a luxury home and only got a suspended sentence for fraud , where is the justice in this

srsly78

The family home is protected. Same law for everyone, even FF fraudsters.

rodento

Firstly is that a family home and secondly if he is bankrupt, how can he afford to maintain it and the cars

AlmightyCushion

srsly78 wrote: »

The family home is protected. Same law for everyone, even FF fraudsters.

There should be a limit to it though. If you live in a big house like that, you should have to downsize.

Topper Harley

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

There should be a limit to it though. If you live in a big house like that, you should have to downsize.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's a different loophole that he's taking advantage of to keep the house and when/if that fails he'll claim protection of the family home. :rolleyes: :mad:

Scortho

Half of The family home, is possibly in his wife's name. If she's not bankrupt, then they can't force the sale of the family home.
While the bankruptcy trustee would have a charge over 50% of the house if its sold, he can't force the sale. Also he could sell his half, but it's kinda hard to sell half a house.

SCOOP 64

Looka like a nice range rover outside, then again that could be the cleaners car.

Scortho

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Looka like a nice range rover outside, then again that could be the cleaners car.

Again both could be owned by his wife.
He was driving a passat when he was shot at.

NIMAN

Ordinary Joe Public goes bankrupt and the State tell him what he can spend on clothes, food, heating etc.

Greedy develpers go bust and they continue to take the p1ss out of us all.

Topper Harley

Scortho wrote: »

Again both could be owned by his wife.
He was driving a passat when he was shot at.

I'll be honest, I read the OP but, initially, I didn't read the link. I assumed by "attacked" that someone threw an egg at him or something...but shot at? :eek:

And while there were two toddlers in the car. :eek::eek::eek:

I know I shouldn't be any less annoyed with what he's managed to get away with but this kind of gives a bit of perspective and now I actually have a bit of sympathy for him.

SCOOP 64

What position did he put himelf in to, to endanger the lives of his family, must be dealing with some dodgy people.

vertico

Scortho wrote: »

Half of The family home, is possibly in his wife's name. If she's not bankrupt, then they can't force the sale of the family home.
While the bankruptcy trustee would have a charge over 50% of the house if its sold, he can't force the sale. Also he could sell his half, but it's kinda hard to sell half a house.

My partner is on the deeds of my house and not on the mortgage, Does that mean the bank can't take the house if I fail to pay

Scortho

vertico wrote: »

My partner is on the deeds of my house and not on the mortgage, Does that mean the bank can't take the house if I fail to pay

To the best of my knowledge yes but with mortgages it may be different. I'd be asking a solicitor to be honest about it. Generally the bank won't let another person go on the deeds, if only one is on the mortgage.

My point was in relation to bankruptcy of an individual who has a 50% share in an asset. The trustee can't take possession of the other 50%.

Scortho

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

What position did he put himelf in to, to endanger the lives of his family, must be dealing with some dodgy people.

There was a thread in after hours about it. Apparently he had a few dealings with the wrong kind of people.
If you owed 70 odd million and went bankrupt you'd piss of a few.

rodento

So if you declare yourself bankrupt before the banks move on the mortgage your home dry????

Scortho

rodento wrote: »

So if you declare yourself bankrupt before the banks move on the mortgage your home dry????

You don't declare yourself bankrupt. Youre adjudged to be bankrupt.
In order to do that you'd need to be insolvent and unable to meet your liabilities.

When you get married, your partner gets title over your assets, she doesn't over your debt.

I would check it out though with a solicitor as I may be wrong.

I'd find it hard to believe that the bank allowed someone's name to go on the deeds of the house, with a mortgage outstanding on it as it effectively loses them their security.

Technoprisoner

i never heard of the guy before today....but what i did hear about him i was absolutely shocked..... for people to go around with "killally owes me 50 grand" stickers on the back of trailers tells me this guy has pissed off a lot of people. I believe there will be an awful lot of potential suspects on the list.

jimmycrackcorm

I don't understand what the point is in having a pot shot at him. Whoever feels aggrieved with him is not going to get their money back in any case.

Scortho

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I don't understand what the point is in having a pot shot at him. Whoever feels aggrieved with him is not going to get their money back in any case.

Might scare the wife if she has some bob lying around

VONSHIRACH

I know some people who live in Edenderry. They are amused by this guy's antics down through the years and somewhat annoyed by his association with the town. He lives in Edenderry yeah, but he is actually from Rhode area originally. How he turned out this way is shocking, his dad is a very nice and well known/respected guy, a now retired ESB meter reader. When Killally first set up business in Edenderry, back in the 1990's, apparently he passed himself off as a qualified accountant. There was a spread about him in the local paper about his new business opening, blah, blah, blah, worked and trained and studied in Dublin etc. It turned out he was chancing his arm, he never qualified! The accountancy body concerned instructed him to remove any reference to them from his business.

Taxburden carrier

VONSHIRACH wrote: »

I know some people who live in Edenderry. They are amused by this guy's antics down through the years and somewhat annoyed by his association with the town. He lives in Edenderry yeah, but he is actually from Rhode area originally. How he turned out this way is shocking, his dad is a very nice and well known/respected guy, a now retired ESB meter reader. When Killally first set up business in Edenderry, back in the 1990's, apparently he passed himself off as a qualified accountant. There was a spread about him in the local paper about his new business opening, blah, blah, blah, worked and trained and studied in Dublin etc. It turned out he was chancing his arm, he never qualified! The accountancy body concerned instructed him to remove any reference to them from his business.

Sure you are not confusing him with a recently retired sleeveen from Drumcondra:D

VONSHIRACH

Taxburden carrier wrote: »

Sure you are not confusing him with a recently retired sleeveen from Drumcondra:D

nope. didn't hear about that Drumcondra guy....

Taxburden carrier

VONSHIRACH wrote: »

nope. didn't hear about that Drumcondra guy....

Won his money on a horse :rolleyes:

Scortho

VONSHIRACH wrote: »

nope. didn't hear about that Drumcondra guy....

He was the head honcho of the drumcondra mafia.
Known to be highly dangerous when it comes to screwing a country.
Known associates include paddy the plasterer and des Richardson.

gaius c

srsly78 wrote: »

The family home is protected. Same law for everyone, even FF fraudsters.

Only for defaulting mortgage payers though. If a renter falls behind by €50, they get evicted even if it's their family home.

jmayo

srsly78 wrote: »

The family home is protected. Same law for everyone, even FF fraudsters.

There is a family home and then there is his family home.

Topper Harley wrote: »

I'll be honest, I read the OP but, initially, I didn't read the link. I assumed by "attacked" that someone threw an egg at him or something...but shot at? :eek:

And while there were two toddlers in the car. :eek::eek::eek:

I know I shouldn't be any less annoyed with what he's managed to get away with but this kind of gives a bit of perspective and now I actually have a bit of sympathy for him.

What is it with having smypathy for people who have dumped massive amount of debts that have to paid for by the rest of us ?

Added to the fact he has dumped massive amounts of debt on us, the guy has been linked to fraud, theft, corruption and before anyone starts the hoopla about only being linked he has been found guilty in a court of law of theft and fraud.

So in my mind him and his familly, who have and will probably continue to benefit (see the house they live in for instance) from his actions, deserve shag all sympathy.
Remember he asked Judge Peter Kelly for an allowance of nearly 18,000 a month to run this home of his.

And the best bit is he was the fianna fail chairman of Offaly county council and running mate of former taoiseach and leader of ff.
What is with the old adage about one can judge a man by the company he keeps ?

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I don't understand what the point is in having a pot shot at him. Whoever feels aggrieved with him is not going to get their money back in any case.

Maybe someone thinks that he can cough up and just gave him a little reminder.
Maybe someone has decided that the Viper just wasn't cutting it and moved to someone more hands on.
I am surprised more of this hasn't happened.

BTW what aboiut the rumour he had a large quantity of cash in the boot "to start a new business venture" ?
I thought he was bankrupt or is it just "bankrupt Irish fianna fail developer style" ?

Here is another image of his nice pad to show just how impoverished himself and his family are.

Taxburden carrier wrote: »

Sure you are not confusing him with a recently retired sleeveen from Drumcondra:D

Same party, different level.

Did I mention that he was brian cowen former ff leader's running mate in not just one but two elections ?
People need to be reminded about the history of this party.

Topper Harley

jmayo wrote: »

What is it with having smypathy for people who have dumped massive amount of debts that have to paid for by the rest of us ?

It's really more sympathy for his kids over the shooting incident. I'm not excusing him in any way, shape or form.

jmayo

Topper Harley wrote: »

It's really more sympathy for his kids over the shooting incident. I'm not excusing him in any way, shape or form.

I would not want to see his kids hurt, but I find it hard to be sympathetic to them when you think they have advantages of nice home and probably better quality of life whereas the kids of the victims of guys like killaly will probably not enjoy such advantages.

the culture of deference

Scortho wrote: »

He was the head honcho of the drumcondra mafia.
Known to be highly dangerous when it comes to screwing a country.
Known associates include paddy the plasterer and des Richardson.

He also spent all his money buying all the copies of some SH!TE chick lit book Published by an unknown in 2004, it was the number 1 bestseller in Ireland (for 19 weeks). Then a movie was made but the work has stirred up some controversy for its close similarity to a 1997 Korean film entitled "The Letter" .

_Kaiser_

Bankrupt? House aside, according to a story on BreakingNews earlier:

Former Fianna Fáil Councillor Ger Killally had a quantity of cash in the boot of his car when it was shot at by raiders yesterday, it is understood...

... The cash is thought to have been intended to be used for a new business venture.

Riiight, so you're bankrupt and unable to pay your debts.. but can still have/be given money for a new business venture??

Something doesn't add up...

Mr.Micro

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Bankrupt? House aside, according to a story on BreakingNews earlier:



Riiight, so you're bankrupt and unable to pay your debts.. but can still have/be given money for a new business venture??

Something doesn't add up...

This is the type that FF choose as candidates for election lol. He is probably in NAMA collecting 200K per year, whilst all the people who he owes money to are gone to the wall.

KyussBishop

So, if the money in the car is true, this guy is a pretty good candidate for prosecution and for a pretty extensive fraud investigation; if true, and is what it looks like it is, hope he ends up in prison for a long time.

There is little chance of finding all of his assets (and no doubt much of it is well secured out of reach of revenue investigators), so the main deterrent to this kind of fraud I would like to see, is a really hefty prison sentence, or some other form of long-term curtailing of liberties, so there is an actual real deterrent not just a slap on the wrist.

sean200

sure loads of people in the private sector are claiming bankruptcy
It makes me sick to see a private sector business go for bankruptcy and close down
Then they don't pay any of the money they owe to people and next thing you see there business opening up under the name of another family member and debt free
This is the sort of crap that is going on in Ireland today

Mr.Micro

sean200 wrote: »

sure loads of people in the private sector are claiming bankruptcy
It makes me sick to see a private sector business go for bankruptcy and close down
Then they don't pay any of the money they owe to people and next thing you see there business opening up under the name of another family member and debt free
This is the sort of crap that is going on in Ireland today

Indeed, when the average person owes a debt he or she has it until its paid.

jmayo

KyussBishop wrote: »

So, if the money in the car is true, this guy is a pretty good candidate for prosecution and for a pretty extensive fraud investigation; if true, and is what it looks like it is, hope he ends up in prison for a long time.

There is little chance of finding all of his assets (and no doubt much of it is well secured out of reach of revenue investigators), so the main deterrent to this kind of fraud I would like to see, is a really hefty prison sentence, or some other form of long-term curtailing of liberties, so there is an actual real deterrent not just a slap on the wrist.

So maybe we owe a debt of gratitude to the shooter.
Maybe one could say their actions have done the country some service.

sean200 wrote: »

sure loads of people in the private sector are claiming bankruptcy

Ehh it would be nice if a few enterprises in the public sector could go into bankruptcy so that
a) we could close the inefficient badly run ones
and
b) they open again with better management, new harder working staff and a better service to the customers.

sean200 wrote: »

It makes me sick to see a private sector business go for bankruptcy and close down
Then they don't pay any of the money they owe to people and next thing you see there business opening up under the name of another family member and debt free
This is the sort of crap that is going on in Ireland today

And yes we all know about that kind of dodgy behaviour and stop trying to have a pop at private sector because of it.
It is like equating everyone in public sector with the likes roddy molloy, who by coincidence also happens to be from Offaly.

KyussBishop

jmayo wrote: »

So maybe we owe a debt of gratitude to the shooter.
Maybe one could say their actions have done the country some service.

Well, I wouldn't go that far; would be good to see proper enforcement of the law and proper investigation of fraud, so that no 'vigilante's feel the need to start taking things into their own hands, which also harms the innocent members of the wider family (in this case, I'd say the shooter is more likely to be motivated by past business involvement with this person, rather than being a vigilante).

The threat of losing years of your life (potentially decades say) in prison, would be a far heftier deterrent than vigilante's that bodyguards could protect you from.

jmayo

KyussBishop wrote: »

Well, I wouldn't go that far; would be good to see proper enforcement of the law and proper investigation of fraud, so that no 'vigilante's feel the need to start taking things into their own hands, which also harms the innocent members of the wider family (in this case, I'd say the shooter is more likely to be motivated by past business involvement with this person, rather than being a vigilante).

The threat of losing years of your life (potentially decades say) in prison, would be a far heftier deterrent than vigilante's that bodyguards could protect you from.

To paraphrase thomas Jefferson
"I believe our democracy (and our justice system) must be refreshed by the blood of tyrants or more correctly in our case unethical, immoral, inept, greedy and often criminal individuals, even if it is at the hands of the masses".

The biggest leap in dealing with criminals and the spoils of their crimes (the non white collar kind) sadly took the death of a mother, Veronica Guerin.

Likewise the killing by a lone farmer of a would be burgler finally caused some actual discussion of the right of homeowners as against the rights of criminals.

Maybe it is time one of these so called entrepreneurial developers, erstwhile bankers or policticans met a faith that would send a shiver through the rest of them and finally push the establishment (from legislature, justice system, regulatory authorities to police) to actually properly investigate and punish people for their actions which has had disastrous consequences for this state and this society.

We dodn't appear to learnt much from the beef tribunal, planing tribunals, DIRT investigations, clerical abuse investigations, etc.

It is time this country, and it's citizens, began to realise that a lax attitude to right and wrong and the idea that we should compensate for shades of grey will mean we continue to have sections of society above and beyond the law.

I have mentioned CAB above, but yet AFAIK CAB has not investigated any of the developers, ex bankers, ex politcans or sitting ones for that matter.
Perhaps someone can cheer me up by letting us know they have investigated someone, particulalry those who claim they got funds through betting on the nags ?
PS I don't mean john gilligan.

KyussBishop

I can't fault (and agree fully with) all your reasoning as to why the country is in such a bad state, insofar as criminality and fraud, and particularly the lax attitudes for it and even protection of it by the state; I wouldn't be particularly surprised to eventually see instances of vigilante violence against some of the more prominent examples of these people, getting away with ridiculous fraud, because it really does seem like nothing is and nothing will be done about it.

I really hope it doesn't start moving towards violence as a method of dealing with it though, I'd much rather see it dealt with properly within the legal system, or with direct protests and social exclusion of these people; just something that might be effective, other than violence.

If it starts turning to violence, things will have already gotten to a much worse state than they are now, so for that also, I'd like to see reform now rather than the possibility of such violence later.

RichardAnd

rodento wrote: »

Couldn't believe it when I read the papers

I didn't find it all that hard to believe ...

AlekSmart

RichardAnd wrote: »

I didn't find it all that hard to believe ...

Hmmm As the dust dies down,the wording also changes a wee bit....

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/cash-found-in-boot-of-bankrupt-politicians-car-after-gun-attack-29239273.html

The car was not hit by the shots and gardai said last night they were not sure what type of gun was used in the attack.

They found no evidence of pellets or wadding to indicate that a shotgun had been used.

But they were satisfied that two shots had been fired on the information of the family and another eyewitness.

There's more than a whiff of the Kevin McKeever's about this story methinks.....:(

Padraig Mor

Killally's wife is also bankrupt BTW, so the whole 'she owns half the house' scenario doesn't apply.


BTW, surely there's no way that architectural monstrosity got planning permission in a 'conventional' manner?!

jmayo

KyussBishop wrote: »

I can't fault (and agree fully with) all your reasoning as to why the country is in such a bad state, insofar as criminality and fraud, and particularly the lax attitudes for it and even protection of it by the state; I wouldn't be particularly surprised to eventually see instances of vigilante violence against some of the more prominent examples of these people, getting away with ridiculous fraud, because it really does seem like nothing is and nothing will be done about it.

I really hope it doesn't start moving towards violence as a method of dealing with it though, I'd much rather see it dealt with properly within the legal system, or with direct protests and social exclusion of these people; just something that might be effective, other than violence.

If it starts turning to violence, things will have already gotten to a much worse state than they are now, so for that also, I'd like to see reform now rather than the possibility of such violence later.

Sadly the status quo will remain until a tipping point is reached.
There were too many influential people involved in dodgy deals down through the years for anything meaningful to have been done.
Added to that a lot of the people still hang on a mindset which honours "the cute hoors who get one over on the system".
Saldy these people haven't matured enough to realise their healthcare, their childrens' education, their old age pension, etc is provided by "the system" and they are part of "the system".

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

what is the point of mentioning the names of 4 innocent children in a thread, some of them apparently toddlers...

Open discussion is one thing, but sifting through Births, Deaths & Marriages is a bit excessive don't you think.

Is it just me or are the kids' names are as pretentious as the gaff in Offaly ?

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Killally's wife is also bankrupt BTW, so the whole 'she owns half the house' scenario doesn't apply.


BTW, surely there's no way that architectural monstrosity got planning permission in a 'conventional' manner?!

Planning if for the little guy not someone a member of a political party, especially fianna fail.
Wasn't he chairman of the county council and biffos running mate.
Hell biffo the younger wished him well when some of his tribulations, ehh dodgy deals, came to light.

Cody Pomeray

jmayo wrote: »

Is it just me or are the kids' names are as pretentious as the gaff in Offaly ?

who cares

Lbeard

Technoprisoner wrote: »

I believe there will be an awful lot of potential suspects on the list.

Who shot JR?

Lbeard

From the The Sunday World

http://www.sundayworld.com/columnists/sw-irish-crime.php

Our exclusive photograph shows an IOU for €281,000 that Killally gave his neighbour Joe in 2010. Joe has hit the headlines recently when photographs were published of him travelling around Co. Offaly with a large billboard criticising Killally.

Speaking from his home, Joe said: "I don't have any sympathy for him, I feel nothing. I have sympathy for my wife and kids who have been left with nothing.

"I don't read and I don't write, but I was told that Killally ran away from the scene to draw off the raiders. He caught me for a lot of money and money that I'd have worked hard for."

How does someone who can't even read or write build up a cash sum of €281,000? Most university graduates wouldn't have that money on hand.

A before anyone says "he worked herd fer it". Poor Joe made his money in the same bildin trade as Ger and Barry Cowen.

The terrible thing that really gets me, is wealth was built up in Ireland through people going to school, working hard, and then not getting fantastic wages working for multinationals. And then these ignorant spud munchers who can neither read nor write splash the cash like JR Ewings.

jmayo

Lbeard wrote: »

From the The Sunday World

http://www.sundayworld.com/columnists/sw-irish-crime.php

Our exclusive photograph shows an IOU for €281,000 that Killally gave his neighbour Joe in 2010. Joe has hit the headlines recently when photographs were published of him travelling around Co. Offaly with a large billboard criticising Killally.

Speaking from his home, Joe said: "I don't have any sympathy for him, I feel nothing. I have sympathy for my wife and kids who have been left with nothing.

"I don't read and I don't write, but I was told that Killally ran away from the scene to draw off the raiders. He caught me for a lot of money and money that I'd have worked hard for."

How does someone who can't even read or write build up a cash sum of €281,000? Most university graduates wouldn't have that money on hand.

A before anyone says "he worked herd fer it". Poor Joe made his money in the same bildin trade as Ger and Barry Cowen.

The terrible thing that really gets me, is wealth was built up in Ireland through people going to school, working hard, and then not getting fantastic wages working for multinationals. And then these ignorant spud munchers who can neither read nor write splash the cash like JR Ewings.

Ehh you don't have to have gone to university to make money, or for that matter finished school.
And to work hard you don't have to have fulfilled the above criteria either.

Frankly your post ranks of a superiority complex.
There have been a lot of smart guys who have done alright without formal education.
Granted most of them would have learnt to read and write and not as gullible or greedy as this genteman.

Oh and some of the ones with high levels of formal education are frankly morons when it comes to the real world and can be equally as greedy and gullible given half the chance.

Oh and to really rock your little boat, a lot of the ones who were splashing the cash as you put it during the bubble, and are now probably up to their ears in debts, are from the professional classes who have finished school, university and attained formal professional qualifications.

Or did you fail to notice all those accountants, solictors, barristers, pharmacists, doctors, etc who got onboard the celtic bubble train to riches ?

fish slapped

Lbeard wrote: »

The terrible thing that really gets me, is wealth was built up in Ireland through people going to school, working hard, and then not getting fantastic wages working for multinationals. And then these ignorant spud munchers who can neither read nor write splash the cash like JR Ewings.

Lbeard, I find you own ignorance truly unbelievable. To call a Law abiding man, who has built up and maintained a company without out the benefit of basic literacy skills, let alone a third level education, an " ignorant spud munchers" is a display of issues you yourself carry.

I would suggest you seek alternative employment if your unhappy working for a multinational. Perhaps Joe could employ you to butter his spuds.

Lbeard

fish slapped wrote: »

Lbeard, I find you own ignorance truly unbelievable.

At least I can read and write.

To call a Law abiding man, who has built up and maintained a company without out the benefit of basic literacy skills,

How does someone without the benefit of literacy build up a company in this day and age? If he can't even use a phone book, how does he find customers? How does he read the instructions on a bag of cement? If he can't read the terms and conditions on financial document?

I would say he was one of these guys the council sorts of for jobs building bockety paths and walls. Builders love Fianna Fail for a reason.

Joe probably failed to learn to read because he went to one of these bockety Irish national schools, where the teachers all had their jobs through being pally with the parish priest, or being someone's nephew. Some lazy ignorant rural teacher, who couldn't give a damn. "get out your copy books lads"

But where Joe displays a laziness, is when he was an adult with plenty of money he did not get a tutor to teach him to read. He could have paid them a fraction of his hourly rate. 1 hour a week for a year or two. I know this because my mother used to tutor illiterate builders. And there were a lot of illiterate people in Ireland as we had so many lazy teachers, only in the job because it was sorted out for them.

let alone a third level education, an " ignorant spud munchers" is a display of issues you yourself carry.

What do you want me to call them? Geniuses? Every builder was during the boom, weren't they.

I would suggest you seek alternative employment if your unhappy working for a multinational.

No one is happy working for a multinational. The money is crap, and so is the treatment. But, if all the people working for the mulitnationals stopped, who is going to pay for the mess the big thick eejits caused?

Perhaps Joe could employ you to butter his spuds.

Where is Joe going to get money for spuds, let alone butter. Ger Killaly has his money long gone.

but a very important question

If you think Joe is such a fine man. Would you buy a house or apartment built by someone who could not read and write? Or do you think it might go all Priory Hall on you?

Would you?

fish slapped

So you're telling me your education was paid for by " ignorant spud munchers" and lazy builders learning to read...

You say no one is happy working for a multinational ... you have spoken to and ask each and every one of them??

You know every illiterate builder in the country and you know they all attended rural bockety national schools with "lazy ignorant rural teacher, who couldn't give a damn"??

You are very quick to make shameful and damning generalisations about people, you don't know, without fact or evidence only the mere presumption from an unhappy amatuer sociologest, clearly working from Auguste Comte's one sided functionalist perspective.

Is it so hard to be civil and respect people, not everyone is out to get you and not everyone is as negative as you expect.

You criticise people and the system, yet you justify your own unhappiness and frustration by playing the ... well someone has to ... card. Well how about you make a stand and do your bit to change the system... instead of just criticising it??

fish slapped

As to buying a house from "Joe" , I don't know him, but I know many people bought houses ans built houses in the last 10/15 years that are happy with theirs ... so why not??

Hootanany

the culture of deference wrote: »

He also spent all his money buying all the copies of some SH!TE chick lit book Published by an unknown in 2004, it was the number 1 bestseller in Ireland (for 19 weeks). Then a movie was made but the work has stirred up some controversy for its close similarity to a 1997 Korean film entitled "The Letter" .

Please tell me this is true.