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star trek next generation on RTE 1990's

  • 02-05-2013 6:00pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭


    I used to watch it on rte when i was a kid :D just wondering if anyone could tell me what seasons aired and on what dates.
    It was on a saturday if i remember correctly. really used to look forward to it. I remember how much i loved it and the characters but couldn't really remember individual episodes. I have watched all he ep's back a couple of times in the past 4 years or so but i love it for different reasons not the same as when i remembered it then. anyone else grow up watching it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭Dynamo Roller




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    Never heard of it, space show you say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Urquell


    Horrible experience. Had to head to 8 o clock Mass with about 10 minutes to go, always missed the end of each episode.

    However , I do remember being off sick one saturday, got to watch the end of Yesterdays Enterprise with the shoot out and exploding ships. Thank you jesus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭sky23



    so was it broadcast around the same time as america? for some reason i thought they started showing them a couple of years after it was broadcast in america from early to mid 90's. i would have being born the year it started then :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭sky23


    Urquell wrote: »
    Horrible experience. Had to head to 8 o clock Mass with about 10 minutes to go, always missed the end of each episode.

    However , I do remember being off sick one saturday, got to watch the end of Yesterdays Enterprise with the shoot out and exploding ships. Thank you jesus.

    thats why i went on the sunday :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭sky23


    Goldstein wrote: »
    Never heard of it, space show you say?

    don't worry about it, it was some nonsense that was on in the 90's it was forgot about pretty quick :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,588 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Urquell wrote: »
    Horrible experience. Had to head to 8 o clock Mass with about 10 minutes to go, always missed the end of each episode.

    However , I do remember being off sick one saturday, got to watch the end of Yesterdays Enterprise with the shoot out and exploding ships. Thank you jesus.

    Each episode ends with a Scooby Doo -esque unmasking.

    Q was really just Kirk's ghost having a laugh at the expense of the new Enterprise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Each episode ends with a Scooby Doo -esque unmasking.

    Q was really just Kirk's ghost having a laugh at the expense of the new Enterprise.

    o1s1n posting in the Star Trek forum? That made me double take! :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Ah nostalgia. A whole gamut of associations are now brought back to me, Riker in a bar (last season TNG) on RTE 2 on a Saturday, the World Cup, Sonic, the wonder that was the megadrive after 8 bit gaming, Ice T, great weather. It was 94/95 I think. Good times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,986 ✭✭✭squonk


    It started on RTE in 1990. A friend of mine was in the the states around 88/89 and saw some episodes and really rubbed it in once it started here because, back in those days, getting to see shows on the US schedule was uber cool!

    As I said, it ran from 1990 until about 96 maybe. They showed the first couple of seasons almost back to back I think. It used to be shown at 7PM on a Saturday evening. Later it moved to 7PM on a Sunday evening. That was certainly true for Season 7, I remember watching Sub Rosa at home one Sunday evening. Has to be one of the worst ever TNG episodes.

    Things got vague for me from about 93 onwards as I stopped relying on RTE. I moved to Dublin for college and Sky were running the show every night at 10PM at the time, and at 5PM as well. The college had a Star Trek society also which I joined and we got tapes of the latest episodes from the states and were current when DS9 started as well. Ah, happy days!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭sky23


    squonk wrote: »
    It started on RTE in 1990. A friend of mine was in the the states around 88/89 and saw some episodes and really rubbed it in once it started here because, back in those days, getting to see shows on the US schedule was uber cool!

    As I said, it ran from 1990 until about 96 maybe. They showed the first couple of seasons almost back to back I think. It used to be shown at 7PM on a Saturday evening. Later it moved to 7PM on a Sunday evening. That was certainly true for Season 7, I remember watching Sub Rosa at home one Sunday evening. Has to be one of the worst ever TNG episodes.

    Things got vague for me from about 93 onwards as I stopped relying on RTE. I moved to Dublin for college and Sky were running the show every night at 10PM at the time, and at 5PM as well. The college had a Star Trek society also which I joined and we got tapes of the latest episodes from the states and were current when DS9 started as well. Ah, happy days!

    thanks for the info
    squonk wrote: »
    I moved to Dublin for college and Sky were running the show every night at 10PM at the time, and at 5PM as well. The college had a Star Trek society also which I joined and we got tapes of the latest episodes from the states and were current when DS9 started as well. Ah, happy days!

    cool story thanks for sharing :D getting the new episodes tapes from the us haha the old torrent system of the day :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    great weather. It was 94/95 I think.
    The hot summer? Wasn't that '96?. Maybe '95.

    Legendary, either way :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    slightly related question. when was TOS first shown on RTE? I have vauge memories of seeing an episode in the late 70's as a child, although it could have been on BBC in someone elses house as we had only 2 channels up to the mid to late 80's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,986 ✭✭✭squonk


    I remember seeing TOS on RTE about 80-82. I was too young at the time to appreciate it and it almost put me off watching TNG when it aired because I remembered TOS being very boring, but I was only 7 or 8 so give me a break! It used to be shown about 5PM in the evening if I remember correctly. Those older and wiser than me will be able to shed more reliable light on this however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    Goodshape wrote: »
    The hot summer? Wasn't that '96?. Maybe '95.

    Legendary, either way :)

    95 was *the* hot summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,703 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    squonk wrote: »
    I remember seeing TOS on RTE about 80-82. I was too young at the time to appreciate it and it almost put me off watching TNG when it aired because I remembered TOS being very boring, but I was only 7 or 8 so give me a break! It used to be shown about 5PM in the evening if I remember correctly. Those older and wiser than me will be able to shed more reliable light on this however.

    yeah I'd say about 82-83 it was on BBC2 everyday around 5 alright, I was around 9-10 and they also showed Dr.Who as well but sometime before or after ST aired
    And then Sky started airing them again in 89 I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    Skerries wrote: »
    yeah I'd say about 82-83 it was on BBC2 everyday around 5 alright, I was around 9-10 and they also showed Dr.Who as well but sometime before or after ST aired
    And then Sky started airing them again in 89 I think

    FWIW TOS was originally shown on BBC1 in the late 60s on Saturday afternoon around 5 just after Grandstand. This was the same time slot Dr Who was shown in. The first episode on BBC was Charlie X. I know cos it's etched in my memory :-)
    Also I'm pretty sure Sky started showing them in 91


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭zmgakt7uw2dvfs


    Bump!

    Attached are some of the RTE air dates taken from TV listings between 1991 and 1994.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Did RTE also ban that TNG episode or was it BBC?

    You know the one with the RA in space.

    Edit: The High Ground.

    Edit 2: It was banned.

    From Wiki:

    In his study of terrorism, Data notes that Ireland was unified in 2024. As a result, this episode was not originally shown on free-to-air television in the United Kingdom for many years.[1] It was not broadcast in the Republic of Ireland by the Star Trek rights' holder, RTÉ, during the programme's run on that channel, though UK broadcasts were received there. Initial UK airings were edited when shown on satellite channel Sky One.[2] The episode was broadcast unedited in May 2006 on Sky One and finally shown unedited on BBC Two during the third season's repeats after midnight in September 2007


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    It's bizarre that it was banned instead of cut. It was only one remark, would have been easy to cut out without interfering with the rest of the episode.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    It's bizarre that it was banned instead of cut. It was only one remark, would have been easy to cut out without interfering with the rest of the episode.

    There was probably a perception at the time that the whole episode was an allegory for the Troubles. And once it was banned, getting it un-banned would have been difficult. I assume Sky never banned it in the first place, so getting the edited version past them was easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,761 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    it was around the time of the good friday agreement afaik - could have been inflammatory and used as a politicking device.

    edit: or maybe not, seems it was supposed to have aired around 1990, the GFA was 1998. Even with the time delays back in those days with stuff not hitting the cinema or tv for a year or two after they'd aired in the US, it doesn't fit. In fact the IRA were still active at that time, so the politicking thing could still be the reason.

    Star Trek TNG and Ireland doesn't stop there either, prior to Data's comments in the 1990 episode... there was another episode with an Oirish colony of mostly women and a stuffy british colony of clones that needed to work together (ride each other) so as they could both survive.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_the_Long_Ladder
    While the Irish are portrayed as hard working, hard drinking unsophisticated slobs, with a fairly matriarchal society, the British are portrayed as stiff upper lipped sophisticated and patriarchal snobs who deceitfully steal DNA from the enterprise crew to keep their civilization of clones from dying.

    pretty sure there was another TNG one with some Irishness in it, besides O'Brien


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭Evade


    a stuffy british colony of clones that needed to work together (ride each other) so as they could both survive..
    If they sounded vaguely British in TNG doesn't that mean they were supposed to be French?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,761 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Evade wrote: »
    If they sounded vaguely British in TNG doesn't that mean they were supposed to be French?

    that only works for Picard :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭zmgakt7uw2dvfs


    it was around the time of the good friday agreement afaik - could have been inflammatory and used as a politicking device.

    edit: or maybe not, seems it was supposed to have aired around 1990, the GFA was 1998. Even with the time delays back in those days with stuff not hitting the cinema or tv for a year or two after they'd aired in the US, it doesn't fit. In fact the IRA were still active at that time, so the politicking thing could still be the reason.

    Star Trek TNG and Ireland doesn't stop there either, prior to Data's comments in the 1990 episode... there was another episode with an Oirish colony of mostly women and a stuffy british colony of clones that needed to work together (ride each other) so as they could both survive.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_the_Long_Ladder
    While the Irish are portrayed as hard working, hard drinking unsophisticated slobs, with a fairly matriarchal society, the British are portrayed as stiff upper lipped sophisticated and patriarchal snobs who deceitfully steal DNA from the enterprise crew to keep their civilization of clones from dying.

    pretty sure there was another TNG one with some Irishness in it, besides O'Brien

    They didn't have British accents.

    Data's mother was an O'Donnell and portrayed by an Irish actress. Apart from Chief O'Brien's rendition of the minstrel boy, there weren't any more references to Ireland in TNG.

    The HighGround should have aired on RTE in late 1991 or early 1992, but didn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    They didn't have British accents.

    Data's mother was an O'Donnell and portrayed by an Irish actress. Apart from Chief O'Brien's rendition of the minstrel boy, there weren't any more references to Ireland in TNG.

    The HighGround should have aired on RTE in late 1991 or early 1992, but didn't.

    Didn't Picard read Ulysses during some episode, or some Irish work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭zmgakt7uw2dvfs


    Didn't Picard read Ulysses during some episode, or some Irish work.

    Yes but Ireland itself wasn't referenced. Ireland got terrible treatment in Voyager though, and Dublin was mentioned in a DS9 episode.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Yes but Ireland itself wasn't referenced. Ireland got terrible treatment in Voyager though, and Dublin was mentioned in a DS9 episode.

    DS9 has a fair few Irish references with O'Brien alright.


    Dont get me started on the Irish in Voyager.....


    I think Enterprise sent a report to an irish school


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Memory Alpha has the details – http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Ireland


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,761 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    DS9 has a fair few Irish references with O'Brien alright.


    Dont get me started on the Irish in Voyager.....


    I think Enterprise sent a report to an irish school

    in Kerry yeah :) Kenmare i think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,761 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    They didn't have British accents.

    I didnt say they did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    "it's capital city was called Dublin"



    Well.....that sounds ominous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭Evade


    "it's capital city was called Dublin"



    Well.....that sounds ominous.
    There's a world government in Star Trek so that would mean no more capital cities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Evade wrote: »
    There's a world government in Star Trek so that would mean no more capital cities.

    Thought there would be, even USA still has State capitals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭Evade


    Thought there would be, even USA still has State capitals.
    I suppose it depends on the type of government the united Earth has. Another possibility is Ireland was absorbed into one of those alphabet soup countries that sprang up after WWIII Lily mentioned in First Contact.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Evade wrote: »
    I suppose it depends on the type of government the united Earth has. Another possibility is Ireland was absorbed into one of those alphabet soup countries that sprang up after WWIII Lily mentioned in First Contact.

    Or maybe Cork finally got their way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,821 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I also used to watch TNG on RTE on Saturday night at 7 except when I had to go to mass :( Mass being at 7.30 at the time. Loved watching TNG hated going to mass.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    leading on from this when TNG was ending there was a gathering at The Royal Hotel in Bray where Gates McFadden was in attendance. I timed it great as were getting ready to show All Good Things for teh first time in Ireland when she walked in, I was at the back and was gutted, loads ahead of me.. But then announced she would sign stuff at the back of the hall, First in line to meet Doc Crusher.. red headed fox ;-)

    did anyone else get to that meet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    even hearing the theme tune brings me back, usually I had a bath beforehand, I can practically smell the bath soap every time I hear it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Commander Data!


    I have fond fond memories of watching ST TNG with my Dad and brother on a Saturday night around 7/8 PM ... it was great, then we would rent a VHS film from Advance Vision :D !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    In a pre-internet era, where I paid little attention to the anything written in the entertainment sections of printed newspapers (remember them :p) and never listened to popular radio, I was not aware of this TNG thing before I was walking into my local in Limerick City, of a Saturday evening in the late 80's/very early 90's (I was out early that evening for some reason ... luckily) I looked up at the TV and there was this strange Star Trekkie title sequence going on.

    I was flabbergasted ... They're bringing back Star Trek??? ... I sat enthralled and watched Encounter at Farpoint (part 1). When I went home that night, I set my VCR to record Encounter at Farpoint (part 2). :p

    If I hadn't actually seen it when I walked in to the pub that evening, I probably would have missed it completely. :o


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,186 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Sorry to necrothread here but ..as someone who watched TNG when it aired, RTE were suprisingly good at showing episodes of Trek.

    .. RTE started airing the first season after the BBC did , but caught up and kept going.. so they were showing episodes maybe a few months ahead of any of the other channels we had access to , and this continued until maybe season 6 or 7 ? when Sky went all in on it and bought the rights to air it first , and also to air the upcoming DS9.

    Afterwards they did show Voyager , but ended up airing it weeks after Sky , and at 11pm at night .


    (The farhaven episodes werent great , although you could probably complain in person to Janeway if you liked , as for a while she (well Kate Mulgrew) was in Ireland a lot, Also I love the fact that at one point in Treks canon Odo was being shown around Dublin by O'Briens family )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,041 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Poor Odo probably brought on a pub crawl.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭bitent


    New episodes of TNG from at least season 6 were aired on RTE before Sky one which was amazing at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    I remember watching Conspiracy when I must have been 4 or 5 and been totally freaked out but was more haunted by Q Who and the introduction of the Borg.



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