Splinter Cell Blacklist

DeSelby83

sorry if there is already a thread, didnt show up in search though. Spies and Mercs has been shown now and its looking pretty good.

SeantheMan

I didn't see any previous thread, I liked the CoOp of the last game

Strange mix of FPS and 3rd person, will have to wait for a decent gameplay trailer. Looks interesting though

COYVB

Had a play of this in January and was very impressed. Only 2 playable levels at that stage, but they were both very enjoyable. The whole game is created in such a way that ever so gently pushes you towards playing it stealthily. Even if you're a shoot first, ask questions later player, you'll be creeping around within half an hour. Haven't had a chance to play Spies and Mercs yet though, but I'm going to try to get over to Ubi Toronto again in the next month or so for an updated look

SherlockWatson

COYVB wrote: »

Had a play of this in January and was very impressed. Only 2 playable levels at that stage, but they were both very enjoyable. The whole game is created in such a way that ever so gently pushes you towards playing it stealthily. Even if you're a shoot first, ask questions later player, you'll be creeping around within half an hour. Haven't had a chance to play Spies and Mercs yet though, but I'm going to try to get over to Ubi Toronto again in the next month or so for an updated look

Good to hear that's its still promoting stealth, had the feeling it would be leaning more towards run and gun.


Phew.

Vyse

Splinter Cell is one of my favourite franchises. Has never disappointed as far as I am concerned. Delighted to see the spies and mercs are back. The mode was introduced in pandora tomorrow but I thought the version in double agent was pure class.

Not many games I pick up on launch but I've a feeling this will be one of them.

humanji

Is this more like Conviction or Chaos Theory?

Skerries

I have been playing these games lately and have to play Convictions next, I was enjoying Double Agent until that stupid puzzle thing which I couldn't figure out and gave up on it

McSasquatch

Looking forward to this, although to be honest I've only played the first three games in the series on the original Xbox. Spy vs Merc was bloody good fun though - very happy to see this returning.

McSasquatch

Here's a wee bit more on Spies vs Mercs (mainly the same video as above but with the addition of French Canadian people talking about stuff).

Turtwig

I've loved the Splinter Cell series and nearly cried when I saw the direction Conviction was supposedly taking in the media. So I didn't get it. Instead, it was last summer's Steam Sale when I got around to it. I'll put it this way. Ubi's cloud kept losing my save file at random moments and this meant I had to play through the game at least 3 times from scratch before I could actually beat it. I didn't mind the repetition one bit. The game was dumbed down in a few ways. Namely that it was ridiculously easier to kill everyone and for some inexplicable reason you could no longer carry or move bodies. Didn't stop me from grabbing them as body shields to hide them.

But, Conviction somehow also became the game that I put the most hours into in Single player mode. I've absolutely loved every bit and while my favourite level in the SC series will always be Chaos Theory's bank. I don't think I've ever had as much fun in experimenting in sneaking past people or killing them in different ways. Yeah the stealth was still there but mostly only if you chose it. But by God was the killing fun.

One thing I hated though was the way the guards kept shouting at you. Seriously, it was beyond stupid.

So, I cannot wait for this. They better not mess it up. Going to miss Ironside but my reaction to the first series direction change nearly cost me in missing out a terrific game. I don't intend to make the same mistake twice. I'm going to wait and see before I purchase it but colour me excited.

indough

Jernal wrote: »

I've loved the Splinter Cell series and nearly cried when I saw the direction Conviction was supposedly taking in the media. So I didn't get it. Instead, it was last summer's Steam Sale when I got around to it. I'll put it this way. Ubi's cloud kept losing my save file at random moments and this meant I had to play through the game at least 3 times from scratch before I could actually beat it. I didn't mind the repetition one bit. The game was dumbed down in a few ways. Namely that it was ridiculously easier to kill everyone and for some inexplicable reason you could no longer carry or move bodies. Didn't stop me from grabbing them as body shields to hide them.

But, Conviction somehow also became the game that I put the most hours into in Single player mode. I've absolutely loved every bit and while my favourite level in the SC series will always be Chaos Theory's bank. I don't think I've ever had as much fun in experimenting in sneaking past people or killing them in different ways. Yeah the stealth was still there but mostly only if you chose it. But by God was the killing fun.

One thing I hated though was the way the guards kept shouting at you. Seriously, it was beyond stupid.

So, I cannot wait for this. They better not mess it up. Going to miss Ironside but my reaction to the first series direction change nearly cost me in missing out a terrific game. I don't intend to make the same mistake twice. I'm going to wait and see before I purchase it but colour me excited.

The same thing happened to me, I had heard that the game wasn't the best so I avoided it despite being a fan of all the others. Eventually picked it up over Christmas and ended up really liking it, so i'm looking forward to this one.

Skerries

I'm currently playing Conviction and though it's fun and all it just doesn't feel like a Splinter Cell game
there's no onus on you to complete the level without killing anyone and quite the opposite as they encourage you to kill them, I miss trying to stealth my way through the level
I think this should have been released as a new IP and kept the old formula for SC

Turtwig

Skerries wrote: »

I'm currently playing Conviction and though it's fun and all it just doesn't feel like a Splinter Cell game
there's no onus on you to complete the level without killing anyone and quite the opposite as they encourage you to kill them, I miss trying to stealth my way through the level
I think this should have been released as a new IP and kept the old formula for SC

With the exception of the first level and other scripted events you don't actually have to kill at all.Yeah the onus is probably less but you're not forced to kill people either. I like it that the game gives you the freedom depending on your mood. There are some moments where it seems totally unavoidable but most of the time there's actually a way to sneak past unnoticed. Sometimes it requires a lot of patience and deft timing. Only level I'm still a sadistic monster is the Iraq level.
The infiltration mode levels are pretty neat too.

Genghiz Cohen

Skerries wrote: »

I'm currently playing Conviction and though it's fun and all it just doesn't feel like a Splinter Cell game
there's no onus on you to complete the level without killing anyone and quite the opposite as they encourage you to kill them, I miss trying to stealth my way through the levelSC

I don't think any SC game encouraged me to go either way, it was always a personal challenge to go non-lethal.

Turtwig

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

I don't think any SC game encouraged me to go either way, it was always a personal challenge to go non-lethal.

Pandora's Tomorrow. :pac:

Atomicjuicer

Was I the only one who absolutely DETESTED the black and white feature? If you wanted to play stealthy you had no colour in the entire damned game.

Sickening

McSasquatch

Little preview of the Spies v Mercs multiplayer. Really doesn't reveal a whole lot though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8LdhF8ME4g

DUBLINHITMAN

If the the coop is like conviction I'll be all over it and hopefully spy vs merc is like in double agent

The One Who Knocks

Completely forgot about this with all the gta hype!!

Can't believe it's out in 2 days, missed out on conviction (no xbox).. anyone know the cheapest place to get it?

sweetie

just finishing dishonored and this will be a nice stealthy follow up on friday!

Elessar

Anyone playing this at the mo? I generally liked the previous games but this one is quite expensive at the moment...

The One Who Knocks

Elessar wrote: »

Anyone playing this at the mo? I generally liked the previous games but this one is quite expensive at the moment...

Found a conviction port for mac, so I'm probably going to play through this one first. Missed out on it as I only have ps3. Getting great reviews though!

kaimera

Demo-ing it at the minute.

Big noticeable thing is the voice.

Nice bump in difficulty when trying for pure stealth, or it might just be me being stupid.

See how it goes.

Genghiz Cohen

There seems to be a lot to this game. Tons of upgrades to gear and The Paladin. With 4 side missions (mixed between SP and Coop) coming out of the first proper mission. I hope for more of the same for the rest of the game.

I'm not sure the controls are perfect, I keep hitting Space to take cover when it's Q to take cover and Space to move between covers.

So far a pure Ghost run of a level is pretty far out of reach for me, which is brilliant. As a vet of every other Splinter Cell game on PS2 and PC I thought I could take on Realistic Difficulty.
Nope.
Which makes me happy.

dave1982

Playing this enjoying it, but annoying thing is the buttons, sometimes when up high I go for cover but he drops down onto ledge.Same with moving to covers he can vault instead of moving to cover he vaults the cover he is hiding in already.

Bought upgarde for pistol for red dot sight won't work?

Genghiz Cohen

dave1982 wrote: »

Bought upgarde for pistol for red dot sight won't work?

Have you equipped it or something?

Genghiz Cohen

Also, if anyone is interested in Coop or Vs add me on .... ugh.... uPlay.
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dave1982

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Have you equipped it or something?

Yeah bought and equipped with money I got paid for completing mission.

kaimera

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

There seems to be a lot to this game. Tons of upgrades to gear and The Paladin. With 4 side missions (mixed between SP and Coop) coming out of the first proper mission. I hope for more of the same for the rest of the game.

I'm not sure the controls are perfect, I keep hitting Space to take cover when it's Q to take cover and Space to move between covers.

So far a pure Ghost run of a level is pretty far out of reach for me, which is brilliant. As a vet of every other Splinter Cell game on PS2 and PC I thought I could take on Realistic Difficulty.
Nope.
Which makes me happy.

This.

Amount of times I've died after vaulting over something instead of going into cover

Realistic is pretty damn tough going.

Struggled thru a few sections in the first 2 missions.

Don't wanna get caught in a firefight, ammo is scare for your own weapons.

Skerries

I have been going through the older games as I had played the original and loved it but never got back to the series until lately

so I have recently played Chaos Theory, Conviction and Double Agent but got stuck on that stupid cube puzzle that you had to unlock a computer and never went back to it
But I was trying to get my boxed copy of Pandora Tomorrow to work on Win 7 without any joy, has any one managed it?
btw I much prefer the older ones as they were more stealth based as the later ones turned into more run and gun

The One Who Knocks

Thankfully from the reviews I've read, blacklist returns to its stealth focused roots, can't wait to get it!

keelanj69

dave1982 wrote: »

Yeah bought and equipped with money I got paid for completing mission.

It just narrows the crosshair.

Genghiz Cohen

Really starting to enjoy this game now. Each section usually takes a few attempts to get through cleanly but once you get the flow its quite enjoyable.

Controls are starting to come naturally but they still sometimes don't do what I want.

kaimera

On mission5 now I think.

Levels can take quite some time to do. Really starting to enjoy skulking around making darkness.

McSasquatch

What format are ye all playing on?

SherlockWatson

Anyone tried the co-op?

Genghiz Cohen

McSasquatch wrote: »

What format are ye all playing on?

PC

Also just realised that CapsLock lets you walk around quietly.

Derp.

Captain Chaos

Has Ubi confirmed that this is coming to the next gen consoles too? It's the only reason I'm holding off, I've read that graphically its not up to par on 360/PS3 so I may aswell hang on.

Potential-Monke

Are there many co-op missions? Don't want to pay high money for a game in which half of it i won't play.

Genghiz Cohen

kaimera wrote: »

skulking around making darkness.

Pfft, only scrubs have to 'make darkness'. A true Pro works with wjhat he's given!


:pac:

SherlockWatson

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Are there many co-op missions? Don't want to pay high money for a game in which half of it i won't play.

It says 14 co-op missions but I haven't tried them yet.

Edit - Still haven't tried the Co-Op yet, but did have a quick round of Spies vs Mercs and it was good fun, only problem is you don't seem to be able to adjust the sensitivity all that much, not that much of a biggie though.

kaimera

Hmm...

did not like the fps mission sections as Briggs

Gradually getting better at ghosting sections. Still not mastered any of the playstyles yet but getting better for sure.

Really have to look around for a pipe or a ledge that isn't the obvious way forward.

Pet hate - loading a checkpoint when starting the game and all the guards are back to their starting positions, can make things pretty **** to complete

the server room level, I hacked the server and waited 2 mins to retrieve the data. On reloading the game, I've to hack it again but the guards are a bit too close for comfort, made for an awful long game of cat and mouse back and forth

kaimera

13 campaign missions.

**** sake.

short as ****.

Didn't bother with the 4E or the group missions and was pretty annoyed it ended as soon as it did.

Pretty heavy on resources too. Had quite a few CTD trying to play on 'ultra' at 2560*1600 on a 570gtx.

Genghiz Cohen

kaimera wrote: »

Pretty heavy on resources too. Had quite a few CTD trying to play on 'ultra' at 2560*1600 on a 570gtx.

That's not resources, I think. Im running ultra 1080p on a 670 and it would still crash at the end of each mission.

glynf

@ Genghiz, did you go for the steam or uplay version? Or does steam just load bloody uplay

Tempted to get this & it works with surround, and g2play have it for 20 yoyo's atm.

Genghiz Cohen

Uplay.

sweetie

really enjoying this and its a nice challenge even at normal difficulty. I love it when you have three marks out of range and trying to sneak or attract them within range to kill all three!

Genghiz Cohen

Kill?

DeSelby83

whats spies and mercs like in this. i havnt heard much about it yet, im kinda torn between this and diablo 3 with xtra visions trade in deal

sweetie

Haven't bothered trying it but don't really do mp games. I'll be finished with my copy by thursday

Dermighty

Bought is from G2Play.net, 17.99. Enjoying it, the coop is cool.