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What's your warm up?

  • 02-05-2013 12:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭


    So warm up is generally something I don't really consider at the gym. I walk the whole 1km to the gym and do my warm up sets in whatever big movement I'm doing that day and consider that my warm up. If I'm doing squats I'll do some mobility work for my hips but nothing major

    Afterwards I generally just foam roll either later that day or the next day. Should I be doing more? What's your routine like?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    Coffee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭Hardonraging


    10/15 or 20 min up hill run, increasing the incline every 5 mins ... gets the old heart going .. then it's straight in to the resistance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    Bit of a chat with the regulars.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Gym bag weighted stair climb. 10-15 seconds X 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭john_cappa


    I have always found it bizarre that people often warm up for doing weights by doing cardio!

    e.g. I do 10 min brisk walk then 10 mins on the rower and by them i am warmed up fir doing my weights etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭Hardonraging


    john_cappa wrote: »
    I have always found it bizarre that people often warm up for doing weights by doing cardio!

    e.g. I do 10 min brisk walk then 10 mins on the rower and by them i am warmed up fir doing my weights etc.


    What's there to find bizarre about ? I'm doing RP on my set's .. so i want my heart rate to be up there and sweating like feck already .. cardio ... heart elevated .. straight to weight ... HIIT .. RP ... <insert more acronyms >


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    10/15 or 20 min up hill run, increasing the incline every 5 mins ... gets the old heart going .. then it's straight in to the resistance

    Your warm up should be specific.

    It should by its very nature prime the muscles you are going to use in your session.

    Going for a run before benching or overhead pressing is just dumb.

    And as for "getting the heart going", if your heart wasnt already "going", you'd be dead.

    If you're going to be working upper body, do a specific upper bsck, shoulder, chest, triceps warm up, etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭Hardonraging


    Your warm up should be specific.

    It should by its very nature prime the muscles you are going to use in your session.

    Going for a run before benching or overhead pressing is just dumb.

    And as for "getting the heart going", if your heart wasnt already "going", you'd be dead.

    If you're going to be working upper body, do a specific upper bsck, shoulder, chest, triceps warm up, etc

    That's a fair point, bar the 'heart going ' ref.. I think were splitting hair's here however, if you are aiming to do a resistance based program, based on HIIt or RP, then why not do cardio as part of your warm up ..

    If however you are going to do a resistance program where you are doing low set's/ low rep's for building muscle then by all means do a few warm up set's with low weights..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭john_cappa


    What's there to find bizarre about ? I'm doing RP on my set's .. so i want my heart rate to be up there and sweating like feck already .. cardio ... heart elevated .. straight to weight ... HIIT .. RP ... <insert more acronyms >


    i have no idea what RP stands for.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    john_cappa wrote: »
    i have no idea what RP stands for.

    Rest Pause most likely. Still doesn't explain the warm up tho.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    foam roll
    static or dynamic stretch. (my favourite part of workout)
    activation exercises - resistance bands shuffles or med ball chops etc

    I have a variety of stuff I use for warm ups


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    That's a fair point, bar the 'heart going ' ref.. I think were splitting hair's here however, if you are aiming to do a resistance based program, based on HIIt or RP, then why not do cardio as part of your warm up ..

    If however you are going to do a resistance program where you are doing low set's/ low rep's for building muscle then by all means do a few warm up set's with low weights..

    I'm not splitting hairs.

    You are just wrong.

    When you "warm up" by "getting your heart going", I very much doubt your core temperature will be elevated much beyond 37 degrees as homeostasis will prevent this from happening.
    This is WHY you sweat - to stop getting too warm.

    Low sets/low reps/high weight is more for strength & power development than "building muscle mass".

    You really need to do a lot more reading/research before you start throwing incorrect info around the place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    Mostly just some hip / shoulder mobility work... some scap somethings... maybe something with resistance bands...LOL JK

    I+have+no+idea+what+I+am+doing.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Scuba Ste


    Sometimes I feel like all I do is warm up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Scuba Ste wrote: »
    Sometimes I feel like all I do is warm up.

    Amen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    Depending on the day the warm up varies.

    Everyday I do shoulder mobility work and have started doing some hip mobility too. If it's leg day I usually go on the stepper to get the blood flowing, that or a walk. Both usually used for warm up and getting my head in the right place. Back day I'll do back extensions, just working up to about 50% of what I could do. A warm up set or two before moving onto the working sets too.

    Stretching and foam rolling for about 30mins a day everyday or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    This is pretty much grade A horse manure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Hammar


    A0 wrote: »
    Your warm-up should be general (cardio; bike, run or row) then specific. You should always break a sweat (or be close to) before doing your specific warm-up and priming the muscle which will be involved in the session. Oftentimes people go for a 10-12 min. general warm-up before a gym session as muscle temperature rises rapidly within the first 5 minutes of exercise and reaches a plateau after 10–20 minutes of exercise. Some also do passive warm-up as well (shower / lukewarm water). Weather / Temperature affect warm-up / passive warm-up durations.

    In B4 Will Heffernan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 666 ✭✭✭A0


    Hammar wrote: »
    In B4 Will Heffernan.

    No - not my reading...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭john_cappa


    Break sweat then prime the muscle.

    Gotcha.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 666 ✭✭✭A0


    john_cappa wrote: »
    Break sweat then prime the muscle.

    Gotcha.

    But don't break a bone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 666 ✭✭✭A0


    This is pretty much grade A horse manure.

    Primed and warmed...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭Hardonraging



    When you "warm up" by "getting your heart going", I very much doubt your core temperature will be elevated much beyond 37 degrees as homeostasis will prevent this from happening.
    This is WHY you sweat - to stop getting too warm.

    /QUOTE]


    You're reffering to Temperature, perhaps you're mistaken my originaal point, so i'll give you an example, instead of grabbing a bench and lifting 20 kg's, you should warm up with 5 kg's.. if you want to do HIIT and elevate your heart rate, why not do 10 /15 mins of cardio before hand ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor





    You're reffering to Temperature, perhaps you're mistaken my originaal point, so i'll give you an example, instead of grabbing a bench and lifting 20 kg's, you should warm up with 5 kg's.. if you want to do HIIT and elevate your heart rate, why not do 10 /15 mins of cardio before hand ?


    The above is an example of what exactly?

    You start off ok by saying that to perform an exercise using xkg that a few warm up sets using 0.25x would be a good idea.

    I agree with this.

    Then you say that I'd be better off preparing to use those 20kg DBs by going for a bit of an auld jog first?

    This, I don't, can't & won't agree with.

    It's like saying you should train for a marathon by rowing.

    I also think you fail to recognize the kind of exercises HIIT should be used for


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Will Heffernan


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    foam roll
    static or dynamic stretch. (my favourite part of workout)
    activation exercises - resistance bands shuffles or med ball chops etc

    I have a variety of stuff I use for warm ups
    If you chucked some specific mobility work in between the stretching and activation work you'd have it pretty much spot on in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Will Heffernan


    Scuba Ste wrote: »
    Sometimes I feel like all I do is warm up.
    For the majority of people...that would probably be the best thing they could do.

    I've had people do a program of mobility, stability and core work get DOMS from it alone.

    You could have a trainee do what I've outlined above and throw in some deadlift variation and some pressing variations in one session and some squat variation and pull up variation in another session and repeat that and they'd be in better shape that most of the posters on this board in 8 weeks of 4 x 60min sessions a week with an appropriate diet.

    So in short Scuba Ste...if you feel like all you do is warm up...then you are probably luckier than most here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Will Heffernan


    Hammar wrote: »
    In B4 Will Heffernan.
    Where did that post go? The one you quoted?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Hammar


    Where did that post go? The one you quoted?

    He/she deleted it. Judging by A0's post's, we got trolled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 666 ✭✭✭A0


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    So warm up is generally something I don't really consider at the gym. I walk the whole 1km to the gym and do my warm up sets in whatever big movement I'm doing that day and consider that my warm up. If I'm doing squats I'll do some mobility work for my hips but nothing major

    Afterwards I generally just foam roll either later that day or the next day. Should I be doing more? What's your routine like?

    Your warm-up should be general (cardio; bike, run or row) then specific. You should always break a sweat (or be close to) before doing your specific warm-up and priming the muscle which will be involved in the session. Oftentimes people go for a 10-12 min. general warm-up before a gym session as muscle temperature rises rapidly within the first 5 minutes of exercise and reaches a plateau after 10–20 minutes of exercise. Some also do passive warm-up as well (shower / lukewarm water). Weather / Temperature affect warm-up / passive warm-up durations.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    If you chucked some specific mobility work in between the stretching and activation work you'd have it pretty much spot on in my opinion.

    yeah, I do, sometimes....
    depends on what workout I'm doing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭Hardonraging


    Then you say that I'd be better off preparing to use those 20kg DBs by going for a bit of an auld jog first?


    Not at all, I'm quite sure i said ...
    instead of grabbing a bench and lifting 20 kg's, you should warm up with 5 kg's
    I then went to on echo what others have said, I do cardio before i start my HIIT ..

    You on the other hand confused Temperature with the topic which is warming up .. not increasing your core temp..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    Not at all, I'm quite sure i said ...

    I then went to on echo what others have said, I do cardio before i start my HIIT ..

    You on the other hand confused Temperature with the topic which is warming up .. not increasing your core temp..

    Define "warming up" for me then in this context.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭Hardonraging


    Define "warming up" for me then in this context.


    I think somebody needs a hug to day ... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 666 ✭✭✭A0


    You on the other hand confused Temperature with the topic which is warming up .. not increasing your core temp..

    That's true, some still think that warm-up is performed to increase core temperature and then go on telling others to do some reading / research...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Rossin


    I asked for a warm up a few months ago and tommyknocker posted a few videos that I since copy

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80762456


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭tmc86


    cycle to the gym
    5 min cross trainer with resistance increases every minute
    foam rolling
    static stretching
    resistance band stretching
    a few BW exersises

    then a few light weight warm up reps for whichever bodypart I'm working that day.

    don't really warm down though, just sit in the pool for a while, steam room/sauna


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Rossin wrote: »
    I asked for a warm up a few months ago and tommyknocker posted a few videos that I since copy

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80762456

    thank you, i saw that months ago, tried to copy it, but couldnt remember where i saw it, have been looking for it ever since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭diegowhite


    My warmup at the moment consists of:

    Foam rolling
    mobility work on upper back and chest
    activation drills on scap
    some hip opening work
    light benching with ramp sets to a working weight

    courtesy of James Hanley

    this is specific for benching

    My warmup, activates and primes the muscles I'm going to use in the workout, opens any tight areas to get me into better positioning and prevents injury from being in a bad position.
    If I was doing running (HIIT or cardio or whatever) I'd change the warmup to do the same for the muscles around the hips, knees and ankles, don't think I'd get straight into an impact exercise like running for 10 mins to get ready for doing HIIT


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Will Heffernan


    diegowhite wrote: »
    My warmup at the moment consists of:

    Foam rolling
    mobility work on upper back and chest
    activation drills on scap
    some hip opening work
    light benching with ramp sets to a working weight

    courtesy of James Hanley

    this is specific for benching

    My warmup, activates and primes the muscles I'm going to use in the workout, opens any tight areas to get me into better positioning and prevents injury from being in a bad position.
    If I was doing running (HIIT or cardio or whatever) I'd change the warmup to do the same for the muscles around the hips, knees and ankles, don't think I'd get straight into an impact exercise like running for 10 mins to get ready for doing HIIT
    So...shoulder and hip mobility and stability work. Sounds awesome. You should thank James Hanley for that every day you go to the gym. You are lucky to have a knowledgeable trainer taking care of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    I think somebody needs a hug to day ... :rolleyes:

    Great answer.
    Well done.

    A0 wrote: »
    That's true, some still think that warm-up is performed to increase core temperature and then go on telling others to do some reading / research...

    Some do still think that.
    They are wrong.
    Reading is good.
    Try it some time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Da Za


    Why are people making "warming up" so complicated??

    Do what you must to execute what you are about to do in your session, anything more is a waste of time and time which could be spent on your training specifics!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭master-t


    I do be so shattered after my 'Warm Up' that I find I'm 'Warming Down' before Ive even got on to my programme....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Will Heffernan


    Da Za wrote: »
    Why are people making "warming up" so complicated??

    Do what you must to execute what you are about to do in your session, anything more is a waste of time and time which could be spent on your training specifics!
    Because for the majority of people...and when I say majority I don't mean 51% I mean probably closer to 97% of people the warm up, prehab/mobility stuff and probably their cardio has way more of a positive effect on their health and fitness than all the stuff they do that they call training. I'd say the majority of people and when I say majority I'd say closer to 51% of people are probably doing more damage to themselves long term with their 'training' than they are having a positive impact on their health and fitness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 666 ✭✭✭A0


    Some do still think that.
    They are wrong.
    Reading is good.
    Try it some time.

    Don't be upset ;) glad you admit it - and we will all follow your instructions inspector.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Da Za


    Because for the majority of people...and when I say majority I don't mean 51% I mean probably closer to 97% of people the warm up, prehab/mobility stuff and probably their cardio has way more of a positive effect on their health and fitness than all the stuff they do that they call training. I'd say the majority of people and when I say majority I'd say closer to 51% of people are probably doing more damage to themselves long term with their 'training' than they are having a positive impact on their health and fitness.

    I shouldn't have forgotten who my audience was here.

    As you have reiterated this is a Health and Fitness forum and then the goal by association must be to be fitter and healthier.

    Nutrition is huge in this. Also, the majority of Irish people and by majority I mean closer to 97% then 51% drink in excess and partake in unhealthy activities which in turn causes more damage.

    My goal for instance is not health and fitness but that can come as a byproduct of what I do!

    All restorative work can also be completed on non-'training' days too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭RomanGod


    My warmup is your workout


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    pre-gym (when I can)
    some light mobility work ala the vid Rossin posted, foam rolling and shoulder dislocates.

    at the gym, depending on the day more of the video stuff, but more prolonged duration, then I try to add more stretches in for my legs and shoulders.

    Plenty of BW squats.

    Then to the rack, for a few squats :
    5x20
    5x30
    5x40
    into work weight sets.

    same for each exercise.

    For the boxing and Bjj
    I do a pre warm up at home, then the dynamic stretching before the class begins, then join in with the group warm up:
    Boxing: shadow box 2 mins, 10 squats, 10 press ups 10 situps 2 mins shadow box repeat until the instructor sees me start to cry.
    fire hydrants, back leg raises, neck and shoulder mobility.

    Bjj is usually joint mobility, esp. neck wrists and ankles.
    then shrimping, gorilla walks, forward and back rolls, "spider-man" crawls (not too sure what they are called but I'm sticking with that name).

    Ive found that its the warm up that usually kills me in the classes. often have to sit out a move and catch up. while everyone else is slightly out of breath.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Because for the majority of people.....the warm up, prehab/mobility stuff and probably their cardio has way more of a positive effect on their health and fitness than all the stuff they do that they call training.

    Shush! All you're going to do now is make a queue for floor space in the gym.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭chriity139


    2km run first 1km at 12 k/ph, then i up the speed every 100m for the next km then i hit the weights


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    6 mins on an elliptical

    Foam roll calves, quads, lats, upper back. Roll glutes and hams with baseball.

    Dynamic warmup
    -toe walks
    -heel walks
    -jogging hIgh knees
    -jogging arse kicks
    -no. 8 of the warmup poster in my physios office :)


    Stretch hip flexors, hams, glutes and pecs.

    Shoulder dislocates, scaps push ups and pull ups. Monster walks with band.

    Is that a warmup? After it I lift things so I think so. The "warm up" is designed to fix me.

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