SHIELD Megathread

pitythefool

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1617104-the-shields-dominant-wwe-run-is-leading-to-something-big

Certainly looks likely

Think Ambrose could be the next Jake The Snake

Nody

That's taking it a tad to far; I'd love for them to have a clear plan and route to do it properly but this is the WWE we're talking about. If they are around in any noticable form in six months beyond the intercontinental belt level I'll be surprised (positively).

pitythefool

Nody wrote: »

That's taking it a tad to far; I'd love for them to have a clear plan and route to do it properly but this is the WWE we're talking about. If they are around in any noticable form in six months beyond the intercontinental belt level I'll be surprised (positively).

I can see mid level belts very soon tbh for Ambrose

Tag Belts for the other two

I think they may then recruit Corey Graves and Bray Wyatt so that Ambrose can move up to main event in singles with Corey taking the mid belt

Then the split will come with Corey winning a Royal Ruble/ MITB

Could make for interesting viewing

But you are right, this is the WWE

Diabhal Beag

Somebody needs to stop them before they take over the WWE

rovert

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Somebody needs to stop them before they take over the WWE

Walter Cannon?
Kata Pult?

pitythefool

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Somebody needs to stop them before they take over the WWE

its about time there was someone to stop Cena all the time

that guy is taking the piss these days with that Supeman Routine

starviewadams

We need the old Stone Cold,we need the kind of foul mouthed,beer swiling SOB who don't take no shít from nobody.Or something.

starviewadams

pitythefool wrote: »

its about time there was someone to stop Cena all the time

that guy is taking the piss these days with that Supeman Routine

Yeah,taking the piss by being the only bankable full time main eventer WWE has beyond Wrestlemania season.

He has some nerve!

pitythefool

starviewadams wrote: »

Yeah,taking the piss by being the only bankable full time main eventer WWE has beyond Wrestlemania season.

He has some nerve!

its not his bankable status

its his domination of main events

someone else needs a go at the top

his act has gone boring

starviewadams

1.2 million buys says different,not bad for his boring domination of main events eh?!

http://variety.com/2013/biz/news/wrestlemania-29-sets-earnings-record-for-wwe-1200414828/

Lord TSC

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Somebody needs to stop them before they take over the WWE

JP Liz V1

I think WWE should put the tag titles on them soon

Loughc

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think WWE should put the tag titles on them soon

Should happen at Extreme Rules, IMO.

krudler

starviewadams wrote: »

1.2 million buys says different,not bad for his boring domination of main events eh?!

http://variety.com/2013/biz/news/wrestlemania-29-sets-earnings-record-for-wwe-1200414828/

That's Mania as a whole and The Rock too tho not purely Cena, nobody can deny he's the man money wise at the mo, his character is stale beyond belief though, has been for years.

DM_7

The tag titles are not worth anything and would be like a demotion!

they could to break out into singles competition and go after a world title over the summer. If the great Khali can be WHC champion, or if Sheamus can be two time WWE champion in less than a year why not Ambrose with the backing of Rollins and Reigns?

anything esle is a waste of the good position they were put in. Why fanny about with minor titles? Reigns already failed in football, he is not going to feck off to UFC or anything, Ambrose and Rollins are wrestlers so won't go anywhere either, have proved they are dedicated so get behind them and make full use of them I say.

Lord TSC

Imagine if one of them got their hands on a MITB briefcase...

starviewadams

Would be a cool twist if the 3 of them were co-holders of the MITB,make things a bit more unpredictable anyways.

jaykhunter

starviewadams wrote: »

1.2 million buys says different,not bad for his boring domination of main events eh? http://variety.com/2013/biz/news/wrestlemania-29-sets-earnings-record-for-wwe-1200414828/

These are not official numbers. The official number (which no-one will remember thanks to articles like these) will be released early August with WWE's Quarterly figures. Who knows though, this Marc Graser could be an insider with more sources than Meltzer or Alvarez

Boring is an opinion though. Couldn't agree more with Krudler.

starviewadams

I don't find Cena particularly boring or stale,just the lack of credable opponents for him to wrestle.

They ballsed Ryback's push up months ago,booked him like a chump at Mania,and now he's parachuted into a title feud.If he'd been properly built up to this feud there'd be nothing boring about it imo.

Kofi/Cesaro/Sheamus/Orton I'd classify as boring at the moment.

Mr.Nice Guy

I've been impressed with how they have handled The Shield. They have to take it on to the next phase in the near future, though.

If we look at past wrestling factions this usually involves at least one of the following:

• A new member comes on the scene
• One of the group gets kicked out and replaced
• One of the group decides to abandon the rest

If they go with option 1, a new member, then they have to get the choice right. I never liked the idea of Orton or some other higher power type figure getting involved. If they go for someone in NXT like Ohno it could be a bit better, but whether they need another 'big guy' type like him I'm not sure. I like the fact that each current member brings a little something to the table.

If they go with option 2, one of the group gets kicked out and replaced, then on the plus side you can avoid a clash of styles. They could replace Reigns with Ohno if they chose (though I wouldn't be in favour of this). I think Rollins would be the best candidate to be kicked out and turn babyface if this is the road they want to go down. He was an effective babyface on NXT. There's a lot of candidates that could replace him in the group. Adrian Neville (Pac) for instance. I'd even suggest Tyson Kidd when he returns from injury.

Last option is a bit similar to the second one. Do a slow turn as happened with Batista in Evolution. Have one of the members become uncomfortable with the constant attacks and assaults. Again I think Rollins is the more credible contender for such a role like this.

I think they can have a nice angle with Taker for the next month or so but after that I think a new chapter has to be written and I would expect it will follow one of the above patterns. The main thing and the real test on whether this group is a success is whether they can keep these guys stars 12 months from now. It will all be in vain if these guys wind up as most of the Nexus guys did - having to be rebuilt step by step all over again.

DM_7

The options mentioned are likely but don't really need to be rushed though, that is what happened with Nexus for example. Not using the current unit to get one guy to main event level before changing the make up of the group would be a shame. They haven't used any of the members in regular singles competition yet and that is the next logical step imo.

Looper007

starviewadams wrote: »

We need the old Stone Cold,we need the kind of foul mouthed,beer swiling SOB who don't take no shít from nobody.Or something.

You mean Supercena to bury them all to hell.

But I think Ambrose and Rollins are amazing talents. I think Rollins is the guy to be a main eventer.

JP Liz V1

Did WWE drop the storyline of someone being behind them and paying them etc., the likely candidates to me would be John Laurinaitis, Paul Heyman or Vince McMahon himself

IMO, I think it be too soon to put a world title on one of them

PTH2009

i had a feeling Ryback was going to join them

Looper007

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Did WWE drop the storyline of someone being behind them and paying them etc., the likely candidates to me would be John Laurinaitis, Paul Heyman or Vince McMahon himself

IMO, I think it be too soon to put a world title on one of them

I think that happen near the end of their run a main event or maybe a Triple H or Stephaine trying to take over the business from Vince.

I do think it be way too soon maybe have Orton turn heel and win WWE title from Cena and Join up as leader of the Shield.

the groutch

the problem is that the beating up everyone on the roster because we feel like it gets stale quickly, they need a proper purpose, and not just their super-vague "righting wrongs".

Mr.Saturn

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

IMO, I think it be too soon to put a world title on one of them

Indeed, but they're also already so far above the midcard belts, anything below the WWE title would seem like a demotion.

DM_7

the groutch wrote: »

the problem is that the beating up everyone on the roster because we feel like it gets stale quickly, they need a proper purpose, and not just their super-vague "righting wrongs".

simple purpose could be they are intent on taking over?

On the idea of linking them to a established star - Just like going after the unimportant titles having a leader in the background would be major backward step for them.

If they went out and hired a representative like Heyman great, but if someone appears as the person who put them together and deciding who they should beat up it would be awful now. A couple of months ago I could see why that would be a route they take but they have genuinely come so far as a trio now it would kill momentum. They go from conquerers to someone elses muscle.

Just let them be The Shield - Ambrose, Rollins and Reigns.

Bounty Hunter

Team Hell no to defend the titles against them at ER and lose then lose the rematch at the following PPV at which point they break up and Bryan gets a singles push. Meanwhile the shield defend the tag titles succesfully and impressively using the freebird rule for a number of months until the MITB PPV when the current WWE champion (lets say Cena) interferes in their match costing them the titles in order to get revenge for an attack from the previous Raw. Later in the show one of the shield with the help of the help of the other two (who had the tag match earlier) wins the MITB briefcase and the trio enter into a feud with Cena which does not neccesarily have to be the main title feud at the time but more so than with anyone else the champ will know and fear that the Shield could trike at any moment taking him out before a cash in.

krudler

Looper007 wrote: »

I think that happen near the end of their run a main event or maybe a Triple H or Stephaine trying to take over the business from Vince.

I do think it be way too soon maybe have Orton turn heel and win WWE title from Cena and Join up as leader of the Shield.

Keep him away from them, they have charisma and are cool, Orton has been on autopilot for years.

jaykhunter

Because Orton did so much for Cody Rhodes and Teddy DiBiase! Definitely keep Boreton away!

See if there's a wrestler-leader of the shield it automatically demotes the current shield members to lackeys, and puts heat on the already established star. So Orton, Ryback etc does them no good.

That said the most sensical fit (if you had to add someone new) would be Heyman as the mastermind. He's done a great job at being present and awesome but not stealing heat from Brock/Punk but adding to it. So I can see him doing the same with SHIELD. Being under Punk, I dunno. It didn't help any of the Nexus lads, and he'd do the talking for them. But it wouldn't be the worst and makes sense considering how they were introduced.

krudler

jaykhunter wrote: »

Because Orton did so much for Cody Rhodes and Teddy DiBiase! Definitely keep Boreton away!

See if there's a wrestler-leader of the shield it automatically demotes the current shield members to lackeys, and puts heat on the already established star. So Orton, Ryback etc does them no good.

That said the most sensical fit (if you had to add someone new) would be Heyman as the mastermind. He's done a great job at being present and awesome but not stealing heat from Brock/Punk but adding to it. So I can see him doing the same with SHIELD. Being under Punk, I dunno. It didn't help any of the Nexus lads, and he'd do the talking for them. But it wouldn't be the worst and makes sense considering how they were introduced.

That, someone as a strictly manager type wouldnt be so bad, but if its a long established wrestler who was behind it then its just Nexus again, and they're doing fine as is. I think it's great to see three newcomers get a push like this that doesnt revolve around a longtimer, for all WWE's current faults they are pushing new stars like Ziggler, who granted has been around for a while but in his current incarnation has finally found his feet.

pitythefool

starviewadams wrote: »

1.2 million buys says different,not bad for his boring domination of main events eh?!

http://variety.com/2013/biz/news/wrestlemania-29-sets-earnings-record-for-wwe-1200414828/

Punk Taker was the best thing about wrestlemania

its why i bought it

not for Cena

pitythefool

DM-ICE wrote: »

The tag titles are not worth anything and would be like a demotion!

they could to break out into singles competition and go after a world title over the summer. If the great Khali can be WHC champion, or if Sheamus can be two time WWE champion in less than a year why not Ambrose with the backing of Rollins and Reigns?

anything esle is a waste of the good position they were put in. Why fanny about with minor titles? Reigns already failed in football, he is not going to feck off to UFC or anything, Ambrose and Rollins are wrestlers so won't go anywhere either, have proved they are dedicated so get behind them and make full use ofhem I say.

the mid card titles need a lift though

no harm for the Shield to have them for awhile to elevate their stable

DM_7

pitythefool wrote: »

the mid card titles need a lift though

no harm for the Shield to have them for awhile to elevate their stable

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It wouldn't elevate them at all

pitythefool

DM-ICE wrote: »

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It wouldn't elevate them at all

it would help the story line me thinks

krudler

They could go down the "we don't need titles" route, but then that's basically saying the titles aren't worth a damn (which aside from the world title they're not lets be honest) the "stable who have a rake of titles" thing has been done to death so they don't need to do that again.

Dr.Evil

Ambrose holding the MITB would be a great move, imagine Cena being tired after a match and Shield's music hits as they surround the ring with a referee..

Manning3000

DM-ICE wrote: »

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It wouldn't elevate them at all

Could it possibly elevate the mid card titles if one of the shield held them. Similar to when HBK held the European title in early DX days

Bounty Hunter

If it wasnt just having them as tag champs and they also had a continued storyline outside of that it wouldnt curtail their push or consign them to the midcard. I mean it didnt do that for Team Hell No who have been one of the most prominent parts of the show for several months now while holding the tag title belts. Also the fact that it would be Team Hell No they would initially be feuding with if they did go the tag titles route would surely mean they wouldnt drop down the ladder as Bryan/Kane are two former WHCs who are very over with the crowd and people they could have a series of very good matches with. Yes if you then have them lose to a normal tag team in WWEs tag division it could hurt them but not if it was done as part of a bigger storyline as I mentioned above which would also see them move swiftly on to bigger things.

Them as tag champs for a while could infact help highlight some of the aspects of the shield they have excelled in projecting so far. Let them use the freebirds rule when defending their titles and allow them to contniue to take advantage of the numbers game with their "pack of dogs mentality".

A destructive united group with no 1 leader who have taken on and defeated the WWEs big names, dominated the tag division and destroyed anyone sounds good to me, what then? break them up, turn someone, add someone new... nah! why mess with whats working instead give them a new different reason to be feared and as I suggested above a quick transition to one of them winning the MITB contract would be ideal and yeah as Dr Evil says above the idea of the shields music hitting at anytime and them coming through the crowd to attack a champion would be great and argueably it couldnt suit anyone more

jaykhunter

Manning3000 wrote: »

Could it possibly elevate the mid card titles if one of the shield held them. Similar to when HBK held the European title in early DX days

I love the 97 reference & the optimism but mid-card titles in 2013 are a hindrance. If Ambrose held the IC belt WWE would be looking to have him feud with Miz or Kofi. Without it he's free to wrestle The Undertaker! Perennial joke Swagger wasn't weighed down by a mid-card belt which allowed him to get into the EC and face Del Rio for the WHC instead of being on the pre-show with Miz. (or not at all, Cesaro.) Mid-card titles mean so little, the IC or US is actually a negative. They'd drag down the SHIELD instead of bringing up the belts.

DM_7

The Tag belts helped Team Hell no as it let them do the 'i'm the tag team champions' thing. That it all, they did nothing to increase the titles importance because they had no worthwhile teams to go against.

The Shield would also have no worthwhile teams to go against so it wouldn't help them and it wouldn't help the titles.

The only purpose any of the mid card titles would serve them was if it feeds into their domination, taking over angle leading to something big, and that could be very good. But if they end up defending the titles against the mid card guys it kills the momentum they have and they become mid card by association.

For me they don't need the Tag/Us/ICC titles to get them to the top, if they get them along the way and great, but its not something that needs to be done.

Ridley

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

A destructive united group with no 1 leader who have taken on and defeated the WWEs big names, dominated the tag division and destroyed anyone sounds good to me, what then? break them up, turn someone, add someone new... nah! why mess with whats working instead give them a new different reason to be feared and as I suggested above a quick transition to one of them winning the MITB contract would be ideal and yeah as Dr Evil says above the idea of the shields music hitting at anytime and them coming through the crowd to attack a champion would be great and argueably it couldnt suit anyone more

Could be a nice visual to have one hold the MitB (preferably going back to just the one briefcase) and the other two flank him as tag champions.

While the tag belts aren't really getting used much, it would help to stick 'em on The Shield and highlight, y'know, their effectiveness as a team without egos. Eventually the faction'll separate - ideally with more dignity than Nexus - but I don't think many would complain if they held onto the belts for a lengthy run until whenever that is.

There are a bunch of tag teams to defend against and the dominance of The Shield could be used to give them focus. Heck, The Shield is effectively de facto #1 contender for the tag belts when they've shown zero interest in acquiring them.

DM_7

Things have cooled a little for the Shield but I am guessing it is leading to Ambrose winning the MITB contract?

I am a little confused about his it will work though if he does win it. As the group could beat up the champion at any time and win cash in it will be odd if he wins and waits a long time to cash in. Holding the contract has led to guys ending up in no mans land losing random matches and with no real storyline.

I hope if he does win it they treat it like another showing of their domination and that they are intentionally holding onto the contract for when they think Justice needs to be served or something like that. Ambrose v Christian should keep him occupied for a couple of months post MITB either way so it buys some time.

Also it was good to see a glimpse of the new shield member:



Moppy is back!

gnfnrhead

Can not see Ambrose winning the MITB.

DM_7

Why not?

The competition isn't stacked:

Wade
Cody
Sandow
Fandango
Swagger
Cesaro

(I would be happy if Sandow won)

gnfnrhead

Barrett wins.

If Ambrose didnt already have a title, then yes. But since he has one, I cant see him winning it.

DM_7

Fair enough.

(Although RVD and Miz have done it while holding a title already)

It would be interesting if Barrett wins it since he has really done nothing interesting for a long time.


When it comes to the Shield I hope they are provided with plenty of big things to do over the next few months. It would be a terrible waste if they were not in a good spot and a good run when Taker reappears to get his revenge.

gnfnrhead

Does the 'taker thing even get mentioned? I assumed they'd just forget about revenge and leave it be. Unless 'taker is doing a tag match for the next WM? I think that would be a waste and dont think he'll be risked before then.

DM_7

It was mentioned recently in a promo (along with them taking out Rock at one stage)

I would be surprised if he didn't return to take on Ambrose at some point or as part of a team to fight the group.

brianregan09

there were rumours of Kane and Taker fighting the Shield at Summerslam