"Teenager kills himself after listening to metal music"

Sofaspud

A schoolboy killed himself after listening to death metal on his iPod, an inquest has heard.

Truman Edley, who was just 15 at the time of his death, hanged himself in the hallway of the family home in Rotherham after he had been listening to the violent music.

A coroner refused to name the band he was listening to or publish the extreme lyrics which formed part of the evidence at the inquest in Rotherham.

The official also noted that Truman had been suffering from a number of problems, and his mother said that he had 'self-esteem' issues.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311557/Loving-teenager-hanged-listening-death-metal-music-dark-lyrics-glorified-death.html

A ridiculous example of the daily mail (there's the first problem) blaming music for what was obviously a much deeper problem. the article goes on to say

She discovered his body at their home in November 2011, two months after she had found him sobbing in his bedroom wardrobe.

So there had obviously been an ongoing problem with him, and yet the headline and the majority of the article focus on the fact that he listened to metal music.

I thought the world (and even the Daily Mail) had moved on from blaming music, but apparently depression and mental health troubles simply aren't important enough to report on without firing up the pitchforks about something.

joe stodge

I call shananigans on this bull****.

brummytom

Ah, The Daily Mail. Must be true.

Links234

Blaming music? I didn't know there was anything left in the barrel to scrape >_<

13spanner

Obviously more going on behind the scenes. Can't blame it solely on what he had on the iPod.

That said, I doubt many people have hung themselves listening to ABBA...

May he rest in peace.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

If music contributed to suicides, how come Daniel O Donnell hasn't got a kill streak yet.

Stupid tabloid sensationalism.

Clandestine

Above all, I hope no one takes this seriously. He had a host of other issues, the music had nothing to do with it

If music makes people kill themselves, there should have been a rake of suicides everytime Red House Painters or Katatonia released a new album

gcgirl

13spanner wrote: »

Obviously more going on behind the scenes. Can't blame it solely on what he had on the iPod.

That said, I doubt many people have hung themselves listening to ABBA...

May he rest in peace.

Have you ever listened to ABBA backwards?

Steve O

I hope they don't name the band, you'll have the merry band of daily fail vigilante nutcases after them.

PC Glyn Farrell, who attended the scene of the death, said he was a fan of death metal but admitted it could be depressive.

'I do listen to that sort of music myself, which has a lot of screaming with heavy guitar sounds,'

LOL whuttt...

Defiler Of The Coffin

Daft sensationalist headline. The article said that he had been suffering from other problems.

Heart goes out to the family

Kiwi in IE

That tabloid should also have found out what he had for breakfast that day. Then they could have had a choice of headlines between the "metal music" and "Boy kills himself after eating Cheerios".

Reality however is probably something along the lines of "Boy kills himself due to unrecognised, untreated depression".

kraggy

If I kill myself after dinner, does that mean eating is evil?

Rented Mule

The kid killed himself in 2011.....but it's new today !!

Lawrence1895

Something like that still exists? It was all around the tabloids already, when I was teenager...30 years ago :rolleyes:

Yakult

Haven't seen a headline like that in a while :rolleyes:
And if you believe it you are even thicker than the fools that write it.
Bigger issues than that to worry about reading the article, which highlighting might actually benefit readers who know someone who may be suffering similarly. But of course, easier to play the blame game and mask the real ****ing issues..

Tigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxenmxwgZsk

20 year ago there were court case over this stuff

LoonyLovegood

I'm fed up of the Daily Mail doing this. They seem to take perverse pleasure in going to the inquests of young teenagers, finding out that they listened to music that isn't Top 40 or is 'unconventional', and using it to say that it's the reason they killed themselves. They did the same thing with poor Hannah Bond. She started listening to My Chemical Romance, then killed herself, blaming the band. If they did just a tiny bit of research they would have copped on.

Their other headlines have included "Why no child is safe from the cult of emo". I really need to stop going to that site and giving them views.

Kiwi in IE

This was a big thing when I was a teenager 20 years ago. We had a religious nutbar neighbour who was forever warning my mother of the dangers of letting me listen to Guns n' Roses and Metallica.

Nailz

Tigger wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxenmxwgZsk

20 year ago there were court case over this stuff

Aye, Judas Priest had to put up with this crap in 1990 over the Stained Glass album version of "Better By You, Better Than Me", a song released 12 years before; wonder why it took someone so long to do it. :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqAPVB4u9Zs

In the words of Bill Hicks...

"What performer wants their audience dead?"

Napper Hawkins

I never understood this logic of "angry, violent music = depressed person".

Surely if any music was going to cause a downer in someone it would be the likes of Radiohead's older material?

Or is mainstream music that has made a lot of money exempt from this sort of ignorant nonsense?

shopaholic01

Did hid mother try to get him help after finding him sobbing in his wardrobe?

Meleftone

gcgirl wrote: »

Have you ever listened to ABBA backwards?

Still sounds like ABBA

BrokenArrows

How many teens have killed themselves listening to sad , slow **** music. You dont see that making the papers.

returnNull

13spanner wrote: »

That said, I doubt many people have hung themselves listening to ABBA...

yeah but you start off listening to ABBA. Thats the problem right there!

DEFTLEFTHAND

Rented Mule wrote: »

The kid killed himself in 2011.....but it's new today !!

The inquest into his death only happened this week.

Steve O

It really is low to use a kids death to sell newspapers. Then again the daily fail never ceases to disgust.

Festy

Steve O wrote: »

I hope they don't name the band, you'll have the merry band of daily fail vigilante nutcases after them.




LOL whuttt...

Could be MM

I know that one of his songs does end with " you might as well kill yourself you're already dead"

kona

Death metal is more likely to make a kid go out n create violence than kill themselves. Plenty of other bmainstream bands that are ****ing depressive , Coldplay?

kona

Festy wrote: »

Could be MM

I know that one of his songs does end with " you might as well kill yourself you're already dead"

He's not death metal lol

FoxT

Its that feckin death metal. They should ban it immediately.

And look...look at this - Justin Beiber should be banned too! He upsets small children, for Gods sake..

Thank you, Daily Mail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTCm8tdHkfI

Festy

kona wrote: »

He's not death metal lol

Metal or Death Metal it all sounds the same to the old folks

Steve O

Festy wrote: »

Could be MM

I know that one of his songs does end with " you might as well kill yourself you're already dead"

Jaysus and there was me thinkin' Marylin Monroes lyrics were about love and happiness.

Festy

Steve O wrote: »

Jaysus and there was me thinkin' Marylin Monroes lyrics were about love and happiness.

Napper Hawkins

Festy wrote: »

Could be MM

I know that one of his songs does end with " you might as well kill yourself you're already dead"

If by MM you mean Marilyn Manson, then he is mainstream Hard Rock and is no heavier than the likes of Limp Bizkit.

Seachmall

People really shouldn't dismiss the impact music has on listeners so flippantly. It can, and does, cause people to act in otherwise uncharacteristic ways. Last night I was listening to rap, 2 hours later I found myself on the corner selling drugs and pimping hoes. That's not something I usually do and never thought I would do.

Napper Hawkins

Festy wrote: »

Metal or Death Metal it all sounds the same to the old folks

This is more or less true, to be fair.

Festy

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

If by MM you mean Marilyn Manson, then he is mainstream Hard Rock and is no heavier than the likes of Limp Bizkit.

He's industrial metal/Shock Rock and some of his older work is pretty heavy.

Steve O

Festy wrote: »

God I love that tune. Favourite album of his along with Portrait of an American Family.

hidinginthebush

A 15 year old kills himself and the fuckking animals in the press look to pin the blame on music just to get an article out. This is a horrible tradegy and the kids family and friends lives have been undoubtedly destroyed by the event. Shameful reporting.

RIP

Festy

Steve O wrote: »

God I love that tune. Favourite album of his along with Portrait of an American Family.

Holywood is my fav album,he went downhill after that

Napper Hawkins

Festy wrote: »

He's industrial metal/Shock Rock and some of his older work is pretty heavy.

Well if you want to get into specifics then yes, you're right.

But he is what I said he is in the broader sense.

Sofaspud

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

This is more or less true, to be fair.

But Manson's music is basically bad karaoke of old electro pop songs, I doubt old folks would mistake it for death metal.
He only gets his shock-metal reputation from the fact that he dresses like a transvestite dominatrix.

Festy

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

Well if you want to get into specifics then yes, you're right.

But he is what I said he is in the broader sense.

Limp Bizkit are more like RATM eg Rap/Metal

Pendu

Meleftone wrote: »

Still sounds like ABBA

You are the dancing queen
kill kill kill and burn kerosene.

The winner takes it all
You're a loser cut off your balls.

Thats what I heard anyway.

Napper Hawkins

Sofaspud wrote: »

But Manson's music is basically bad karaoke of old electro pop songs, I doubt old folks would mistake it for death metal.
He only gets his shock-metal reputation from the fact that he dresses like a transvestite dominatrix.

Well you know that and I know that but I reckon if you played this for older folks not in the know then I'm sure they would struggle to see a distinction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BlZbcfBlIE

Napper Hawkins

Festy wrote: »

Limp Bizkit are more like RATM eg Rap/Metal

And my point is that the level of heaviness is pretty much the same.
The style and approach are unimportant.

Riddle101

Poor kid, guy had issues and needed some help. Blaming music is sensationalist at best, but I guess music does tend to evoke emotions from people.

Festy

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

Well you know that and I know that but I reckon if you played this for older folks not in the know then I'm sure they would struggle to see a distinction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BlZbcfBlIE

Probably 2 of his most aggressive songs. Dat Anger :cool:

Tigger

this is now a spidermaN THREAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbUh5hansIk

Napper Hawkins

Festy wrote: »

Probably 2 of his most aggressive songs. Dat Anger :cool:

Wasn't crazy about anything he did after Mechanical Animals to be honest, Antichrist Superstar was his best work imo.

Anyway, the point is a youngfella is dead and DM is being blamed.

Madness. How many people have killed themselves and never listened to any heavy music at all? What's the excuse there?

Some of the happiest, most well adjusted people I know have been listening to DM for most of their lives and they're doing just fine.

This is just another case of blaming something that you don't understand and I'm not in the least bit shocked that this bull**** has raised its ugly head and unfortunately will continue to do so for as long as there are dull witted morons.

Tigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C8abFPrMwQ