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frazzledhome

cute geoge wrote: »

I would be more worried about lads closer to home ,still expanding to drive down the price to 20 cent a litre .lads in cubicle accomadion tread talking about 250 extra cubicles and in the next breath complaining about glanbia.
Let them at it!!

Bollix
I'm the one posted on that thread. Where did you read me bitch about price?
You don't know my circumstances, you don't know if it's 250 extra cows!

It's nice to jump on the band wagon though

Btw, no need to be worried about me, but thanks for your faux concern

greenfield21

keep expanding lads and let's put these high cost producers out of business. we're safe as long as they don't start protesting to their Government for top ups.

rangler1

greenfield21 wrote: »

keep expanding lads and let's put these high cost producers out of business. we're safe as long as they don't start protesting to their Government for top ups.

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2015 was always going to be a race to the bottom as soon as quotas ended,
Farmers keen to expand, young farmers frustrated in other enterprises, and once there's a margin, optimists will keep expanding......
Seen on another forum where a poster (jokingly) said that they'd have to blockade each others farm, such would be the poor response to a suggested commodity strike by dairy farmers

alps

Milked out wrote: »

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Milked out

Milked out wrote: »

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Link won't open?

alps

Milked out wrote: »

Link won't open?

Nah....can't open myself from here. ...A screenshot, just have to try again some other time....

Got a text from a guy who said he couldn't open it....must be lots of guys calving cows....

frazzledhome

This should keep some exercised http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/pics-on-the-farm-that-swapped-a-350-bull-beef-enterprise-for-230-dairy-cows

freedominacup

frazzledhome wrote: »

This should keep some exercised http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/pics-on-the-farm-that-swapped-a-350-bull-beef-enterprise-for-230-dairy-cows

I think I was on that farm a couple of years ago. If it's the same place he's gonna have his ears pinned back this year in the parlour. Perfectly serviceable but definitely on the small side for 300. Good operator. Very cost conscious.

frazzledhome

freedominacup wrote: »

I think I was on that farm a couple of years ago. If it's the same place he's gonna have his ears pinned back this year in the parlour. Perfectly serviceable but definitely on the small side for 300. Good operator. Very cost conscious.

He's not too far from me but I don't know him. Heal he's well switched on though

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

This should keep some exercised http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/pics-on-the-farm-that-swapped-a-350-bull-beef-enterprise-for-230-dairy-cows

That, I think, was a very easy decision for him to make. Stopped producing bull beef 3yrs ago and won't miss it.
More luck to him.

frazzledhome

Dawggone wrote: »

That, I think, was a very easy decision for him to make. Stopped producing bull beef 3yrs ago and won't miss it.
More luck to him.

But, but, but what about following the herd?

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

But, but, but what about following the herd?

Lol.

keep going

He must have been fairly handyvat the beef game too if he owned rather than borrowed that much stock

kevthegaff

Stock could have been inherited, SFP I'd say is a big help...hel be fine I'd say

Farmer Ed

kevthegaff wrote: »

Stock could have been inherited, SFP I'd say is a big help...hel be fine I'd say

An awful lot of people doing well out of single farm payment alright.

We all heard the one one about the farmer when he was asked what he might do with his lotto winnings?

"Ah sur I think Ill stay farming away until Ill have it all spent"

blackdog1

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Atm I'm working out where I'll put 45 heifers and an extra 30 cows next winter

Make sure you have space whatever you do gg. I had a,few more than I had capacity for and overcrowding definitely affected a few cows. 1or 2 less downer cows would pay for a bit of concrete.

kevthegaff

Farmer Ed wrote: »

An awful lot of people doing well out of single farm payment alright.

We all heard the one one about the farmer when he was asked what he might do with his lotto winnings?

"Ah sur I think Ill stay farming away until Ill have it all spent"

Maybe I'm a bit cynical but for a large beef farmer swapping to dairy it's a lot easier then a greenfield, with sheds, large SFP, stock to sell. I started with no quota, no stock, no machinery, v small sfp but Luckily relativrly cheep rented land! And I think I'm getting there after 8 years!! I'd like to see more background to some of these success stories.. I have to admire the guys that went to nz share farming eventually buying they're own

Mehaffey1

frazzledhome wrote: »

This should keep some exercised http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/pics-on-the-farm-that-swapped-a-350-bull-beef-enterprise-for-230-dairy-cows

Certainly not afraid of putting in serious investment and not doing things half arsed it seems. 50 bail rotary make for a very relaxed milking 300.

Greengrass1

blackdog1 wrote: »

Make sure you have space whatever you do gg. I had a,few more than I had capacity for and overcrowding definitely affected a few cows. 1or 2 less downer cows would pay for a bit of concrete.

Ahh ill sell stock if it comes to it. Would rather not but we'll see how things go

Mehaffey1

Rare position to be in Gg, having more stock on hand than you did before. Looks like we mightn't be buying any cows in for next season due to the payout, 800cows down to under 690 that'd be in two seasons, don't want to be thinking of it too much!

pedigree 6

kevthegaff wrote: »

Maybe I'm a bit cynical but for a large beef farmer swapping to dairy it's a lot easier then a greenfield, with sheds, large SFP, stock to sell. I started with no quota, no stock, no machinery, v small sfp but Luckily relativrly cheep rented land! And I think I'm getting there after 8 years!! I'd like to see more background to some of these success stories.. I have to admire the guys that went to nz share farming eventually buying they're own

The way I look at life and farming (or try to) is that it's not a competition and no one is better than another for nobody knows everyones circumstances whether health, family or financial.

What I try to do (this is going to sound loopy) is rob. I will rob as much information and ideas as I can anywhere I can and if they suit implement them.

The saying "the grass is not always greener on the other side" comes to mind but i'll rob all the information I can off them.

Deepsouthwest

frazzledhome wrote: »

This should keep some exercised http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/pics-on-the-farm-that-swapped-a-350-bull-beef-enterprise-for-230-dairy-cows

72% heifers and 454 kgs/ms sold per cow, where the fcuk did I go wrong?!!

Milked out

kevthegaff wrote: »

Maybe I'm a bit cynical but for a large beef farmer swapping to dairy it's a lot easier then a greenfield, with sheds, large SFP, stock to sell. I started with no quota, no stock, no machinery, v small sfp but Luckily relativrly cheep rented land! And I think I'm getting there after 8 years!! I'd like to see more background to some of these success stories.. I have to admire the guys that went to nz share farming eventually buying they're own

Take your point and fair play on your progress tis drive like that that would see a lad thru most obstacles but as the phrase goes you can only play the hand you're dealt every person has a different starting point and scenario around it so once they make a go of it I say fair play to em

frazzledhome

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

72% heifers and 454 kgs/ms sold per cow, where the fcuk did I go wrong?!!

My thoughts exactly

kevthegaff

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

72% heifers and 454 kgs/ms sold per cow, where the fcuk did I go wrong?!!

Bet if a lot of lads had an article on agriland there kgs/ms would increase overnight :-D!

Deepsouthwest

kevthegaff wrote: »

Bet if a lot of lads had an article on agriland there kgs/ms would increase overnight :-D!

Often wonder about the accuracy of some of these articles, heard recent rumours about a OAD guy featured in a prominent publication having fairly inflated figures. But I think this is info from a teagasc event, and I know from experience, at least around here their v fussy about putting out accurate figures. I just mentioned in another thread, about having a particularly low pr test two days before hosting a coop/Teagasc walk a while back, I thought because this test was lower than the norm, we'd work off the average of maybe the previous 3/4test results, but they were adamant exact present performance could only be the most recent collection results available to us and that was the figures that would go on the handout. Talk about giving them a stick to beat me with! Ironically 15 mins after the walk had finished I got a txt showing my pr had jumped back up .17 again, bit late for bovril then though!

kevthegaff

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Often wonder about the accuracy of some of these articles, heard recent rumours about a OAD guy featured in a prominent publication having fairly inflated figures. But I think this is info from a teagasc event, and I know from experience, at least around here their v fussy about putting out accurate figures. I just mentioned in another thread, about having a particularly low pr test two days before hosting a coop/Teagasc walk a while back, I thought because this test was lower than the norm, we'd work off the average of maybe the previous 3/4test results, but they were adamant exact present performance could only be the most recent collection results available to us and that was the figures that would go on the handout. Talk about giving them a stick to beat me with! Ironically 15 mins after the walk had finished I got a txt showing my pr had jumped back up .17 again, bit late for bovril then though!

Bang on the money

Mehaffey1

Synlait Milk drop payout 80cents to $4.20 falling in line with Fonterra, Westland Milk and Open Country Dairy.

kevthegaff

Mehaffey1 wrote: »

Synlait Milk drop payout 80cents to $4.20 falling in line with Fonterra, Westland Milk and Open Country Dairy.

How are guys coping over there Mehaffey with the low payout?

keep going

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Often wonder about the accuracy of some of these articles, heard recent rumours about a OAD guy featured in a prominent publication having fairly inflated figures. But I think this is info from a teagasc event, and I know from experience, at least around here their v fussy about putting out accurate figures. I just mentioned in another thread, about having a particularly low pr test two days before hosting a coop/Teagasc walk a while back, I thought because this test was lower than the norm, we'd work off the average of maybe the previous 3/4test results, but they were adamant exact present performance could only be the most recent collection results available to us and that was the figures that would go on the handout. Talk about giving them a stick to beat me with! Ironically 15 mins after the walk had finished I got a txt showing my pr had jumped back up .17 again, bit late for bovril then though!

At the end of the day the only figures that matter are your own.ive a tendency to look at the practice on farm walks rather than figures and then go home and do your own sums in relation to my place