Department of foreigners.

Phill Ewinn

Ms Woldu Hagos met Mr Padwick when they worked together in the kitchens of a United Nations peacekeeping mission in Eritrea. Mr Padwick died in December 2002 soon after he returned from his UN mission leaving his daughter's future in limbo.

Ms Woldu Hagos told the Department of Foreign Affairs in 2004 that her daughter was Irish but she was told she would have to establish this by formal means herself. This was an impossible task for the single mother who was living in poor conditions 5,700km away.

The only support she received was a whip-around from Mr Padwick's colleagues prior to the termination of Ireland's involvement in the UN mission to Eritrea.

In 2009, Anthony Joyce, a solicitor, and Simon Palmer, a public relations adviser, took up her case pro bono.



So it took few years and the intervention of a TD to get there. Fair play to her mum. Good news stories are thin on the ground

joe stodge

So?

Cody Pomeray

Why does a public relations officer take up a citizen's application case pro bono?

Why does a citizenship application need a Public Relations Officer?

Gyalist

African girl wins her long fight to prove Irish citizenship

Turtyturd

Why is the OP the fourth post in the thread?

Nodin

Why do birds suddenly appear..?

HondaSami

Good news for the child and her mother but hardly news/thread worthy.

antodeco

Is there anything Bono isint involved in?

tin79

Martha Woldu Hagos is the mankiest name I have ever heard.

Makes me wretch - no wonder the child took the name Padwick.

i didnt read the rest.

Lapin

She is probably better off staying in Eritrea.

Simon Coveny has just signed a pledge on behalf of the Irish Government to commit millions of euros in foreign aid over the next few years.

Cody Pomeray

Lapin wrote: »

She is probably better off staying in Eritrea.

Simon Coveny has just signed a pledge on behalf of the Irish Government to commit millions in aid to the UN.

Lol

Nodin

tin79 wrote: »

Martha Woldu Hagos is the mankiest name I have ever heard.

Makes me wretch - no wonder the child took the name Padwick.

i didnt read the rest.

Sensitive fellow.

seven_eleven

Department of job stealing dole scrounging swan eating foreigners.

WayneMolloy

They have won the lottery. Treasure Ireland will look after them well.

The average wage there is 500 euro per annum. 26 large will go a long way.

Nodin

Here we go....

Baneblade

so the gov are the bad guys for asking someone to provide proof citizenship?

WayneMolloy

If there was no money or EU citizenship to be got - would they have bothered their hole to apply for the passport?

Would they f*ck.

MarkR

Anyone else read Padwick as as Patrick, with a lisp?

Cody Pomeray

WayneMolloy wrote: »

If there was no money or EU citizenship to be got - would they have bothered their hole to apply for the passport?

Would they f*ck.

No doubt if you lived in Eritrea and saw the opportunity to get out, you'd think "No Wayne, this isn't right. That social welfare belongs to Irish people who deserve it more than I. I'll stay here and suffer my lot in life, and don't try to advance myself or improve my quality of life when fate grants me an opportunity".

Wouldn't you Wayne?

WayneMolloy

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

No doubt if you lived in Eritrea and saw the opportunity to get out, you'd think "No Wayne, this isn't right. That social welfare belongs to Irish people who deserve it more than I. I'll stay here and suffer my lot in life, and don't try to advance myself or improve my quality of life when fate grants me an opportunity".

Nice strawman.

Cody Pomeray

WayneMolloy wrote: »

Nice strawman.

That's not what straw man means.

Your theory is that this Eritrean individual only want to develop a benefit for herself of some kind, arising out of Ireland's preferable economic situation relative to Eritrea.

My question is response is "wouldn't you".

That is not a straw man.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/straw%20man

WayneMolloy

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

That's not what straw man means.

Your theory is that this Eritrean individual only want to develop a benefit for herself of some kind, arising out of Ireland's preferable economic situation relative to Eritrea.

I dont know what id do in your hypothetical situation. Its irrelevant to the topic at hand.

This is a great windfall. Under the zambrano judgement, the mother is fully entitled to live here with her citizen child. Access to the loot : activated.

Dole, child benefit, free education, single ma allowance, two hundred brick a month from the fathers pension, free medical care, access to social housing and 26 large in the bank.

Thats a lottery win, right there. Pop open the champers.

TwoShedsJackson

WayneMolloy wrote: »

Thats a lottery win, right there. Pop open the champers.

Anything that pisses you off is worth celebrating.

stoneill

Did he really die or just pretended to die coz he got yer wan up the duff?

old hippy

WayneMolloy wrote: »

I dont know what id do in your hypothetical situation. Its irrelevant to the topic at hand.

This is a great windfall. Under the zambrano judgement, the mother is fully entitled to live here with her citizen child. Access to the loot : activated.

Dole, child benefit, free education, single ma allowance, two hundred brick a month from the fathers pension, free medical care, access to social housing and 26 large in the bank.

Thats a lottery win, right there. Pop open the champers.

She's an Irish citizen now, Wayne. Just like you. And nothing you and your little hissy fits can do about it.

Cody Pomeray

WayneMolloy wrote: »

I dont know what id do in your hypothetical situation. Its irrelevant to the topic at hand.

No it isn't. I think most of us agree that Eritrea is a less favourable place to live than Ireland. Any criticism of this woman if she chooses to live in this economy over the Eritrean economy is hypocritical, considering there is little doubt but that we would do the same in her position.

I would go so far as to say it would be downright irresponsible to raise a family in Eritrea if you had an opportunity to move to Ireland with full citizenship rights.

latenia

I have no problem with her getting the orphan's pension as that was money earned by her dad through his job to look after any dependents but there's no way she should get residency/citizenship. To take it to the extreme, I could travel the world spreading my seed and impregnate 1000 women a year-you couldn't expect the state to then welcome all those kids in 10 years later.

WayneMolloy

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

I would go so far as to say it would be downright irresponsible to raise a family in Eritrea if you had an opportunity to move to Ireland with full citizenship rights.

Even if its at the hard pressed taxpayers expense?

We send these countries 700 million euro per annum. That should be enough.

mp22

WayneMolloy wrote: »

Even if its at the hard pressed taxpayers expense?

We send these countries 700 million euro per annum. That should be enough.

Do we borrow that money just to give it away?

WayneMolloy

old hippy wrote: »

She's an Irish citizen now, Wayne. Just like you. And nothing you and your little hissy fits can do about it.

She is irish through the deceased sperm donor. In other words, Irish by default. She hasnt even set foot in the kip.

Citizenship is just a piece of paper, albeit, an important piece of paper.

old hippy

latenia wrote: »

I have no problem with her getting the orphan's pension as that was money earned by her dad through his job to look after any dependents but there's no way she should get residency/citizenship. To take it to the extreme, I could travel the world spreading my seed and impregnate 1000 women a year-you couldn't expect the state to then welcome all those kids in 10 years later.

Her late father didn't take it to your fanciful extremes, though, did he?

Why us there no way she should get residency?

If I ever have a kid (with my non national wife) and then die, should my child be denied his or heritage?

WayneMolloy

mp22 wrote: »

Do we borrow that money just to give it away?

We do, yeah. And pay it back with interest.

Why do you ask?

srsly78

Wayne if it was a white kid born in america to an Irish parent, would it be ok then?

old hippy

WayneMolloy wrote: »

She is irish through the deceased sperm donor. In other words, Irish by default. She hasnt even set foot in the kip.

Citizenship is just a piece of paper, albeit, an important piece of paper.

It's part of her heritage. And now she's as Irish as you and I.

And you fecking can't do a thing about it. Buddy.

WayneMolloy

old hippy wrote: »

If I ever have a kid (with my non national wife) and then die, should my child be denied his or heritage?

Why do you always make the discussion about your personal life?

Gatling

Citizenship,
26000e
And free entry for her mother and her parents to ireland
Not bad for a few quick shags with a soldier

Whats next a mini TV series

old hippy

srsly78 wrote: »

Wayne if it was a white kid born in america to an Irish parent, would it be ok then?

Nah, he'd be equally upset about it. I was born and raised in Ireland (one of the parents is American) but he still doesn't consider me Irish

WayneMolloy

srsly78 wrote: »

Wayne if it was a white kid born in america to an Irish parent, would it be ok then?

If the exact same scenario was played out?

No.

old hippy

WayneMolloy wrote: »

Why do you always make the discussion about your personal life?

Hey, Buddy. Just playing the game how you like it. Bro.

Why do you always say the same old thing?

WayneMolloy

old hippy wrote: »

Nah, he'd be equally upset about it. I was born and raised in Ireland (one of the parents is American) but he still doesn't consider me Irish

You are half Irish, half American. I told you that already.

old hippy

Gatling wrote: »

Citizenship,
26000e
And free entry for her mother and her parents to ireland
Not bad for a few quick shags with a soldier

Whats next a mini TV series

And a new low is achieved. Squalid post.

Lapin

latenia wrote: »

I could travel the world spreading my seed and impregnate 1000 women a year..........

Cost you a fortune in oysters though.

srsly78

Ah so you have to be FULL Irish to get citizenship.

So Wayne, what if your dad was half irish, is 75% Irish enough?

old hippy

WayneMolloy wrote: »

You are half Irish, half American. I told you that already.

I'm Irish. Lived there all my life until I didn't. Only have one passport; an Irish one.

I'm Irish with American heritage, go back further and there's Scottish and other lines as well.

Do you want a DNA test for racial purity, buddy?

Gatling

old hippy wrote: »

And a new low is achieved. Squalid post.

Facts speak for themselves

latenia

old hippy wrote: »

Her late father didn't take it to your fanciful extremes, though, did he?

Why us there no way she should get residency?

If I ever have a kid (with my non national wife) and then die, should my child be denied his or heritage?

I was illustrating the unsound principle behind allowing the product of random foreign flings access to everything the state offers. If it's ok in one instance as you say, ergo it's ok in 1000 instances.

old hippy

Gatling wrote: »

Facts speak for themselves

A nasty, ill informed post. Says more about you than her.

srsly78

So what happens to kids that have parents from different countries? You think they should get no passport at all? Or that they should only get the passport of wherever they were geographically born?

old hippy

latenia wrote: »

I was illustrating the unsound principle behind allowing the product of random foreign flings access to everything the state offers. If it's ok in one instance as you say, ergo it's ok in 1000 instances.

It's not 1000 instances. It's one. And even if it was more; so what? She has a right to avail of her heritage. Fair play to her.

Grand Moff Tarkin

Lapin wrote: »

She is probably better off staying in Eritrea.

Simon Coveny has just signed a pledge on behalf of the Irish Government to commit millions of euros in foreign aid over the next few years.

Decent out of him when you consider how fcuked the country is. Unless of course some of the money is coming from his daddy's offshore accounts from his days scamming the good folks of Ireland.

Gatling

Wonder if the Army are going to promote safe sex

Right lads

Wrap up or loose half your pension

All for the cost of a quickie