Bulling Heifers

delaval

quadboy wrote: »

I hope fixed time Ai is different to estrumating

Very different.
We started Ai the heifers last Monday and Ai'd 60% in 7 days. We then estrumated the remaining heifers on Monday and only had 3 today but expect to be busy tomorrow and Thursday, bulls will then clean up.

We are tailpainting the cows in am and starting ai tomorrow, so busy 2 mths ahead.

delaval

quadboy wrote: »

Planning on estrumating the heifers this week, was wondering is early feb too early for heifers to be calving,wouldn't buyers prefer an early calving heifer.

Have you started ai yet?

quadboy

Im planning on using estrumate then use scratchcards to know whats bulling, gona stick a bullock in with them too, does this sound good

quadboy

delaval wrote: »

Have you started ai yet?

Not yet their being moved tomorrow and hopefully injected tomorrow evening or Thursday

delaval

quadboy wrote: »

Im planning on using estrumate then use scratchcards to know whats bulling, gona stick a bullock in with them too, does this sound good

Not a good idea. If a heifer was bulling in the last week est useless and will have to be done again.
I suggest ai for 7 days and est on day 7 bullock may be a help

quadboy

Yeah I suppose, ill try them for the week so and see what gets done, the main reason why I wanted to est was to get em done quick cos small enough field but I can move them to a field closer to home if I move things around and use crush in the shed

delaval

quadboy wrote: »

Yeah I suppose, ill try them for the week so and see what gets done, the main reason why I wanted to est was to get em done quick cos small enough field but I can move them to a field closer to home if I move things around and use crush in the shed

Your numbers will be dropping daily. Move all ai'd animals away as you serve. If you are really short of feed give them nuts, feed them well and all will be well. You need to watch well or use kmar/scratchcard not paint as it doesn't work on heifers. Our heifers are 20 miles away and we find scratch cards ok perhaps not as good as kmar. I will post picture tomorrow when we get there to do ai.

quadboy

20 miles jesus mine are only goin a mile out the road and to be fair theres two fields side by side with a nice bit of grass. used the scratchcards last year so will be using them again and theres only 12 to do, they should get at least two weeks out there

delaval

quadboy wrote: »

20 miles jesus mine are only goin a mile out the road and to be fair theres two fields side by side with a nice bit of grass. used the scratchcards last year so will be using them again and theres only 12 to do, they should get at least two weeks out there

You'll be well finished by then. Are you going to ai repeats?

quadboy

Yeah don't have any bull, do you stick new cards on ones served to c if they repeat or just stick them in with the bull

delaval

We put with bull 2 days after ai so they have cooled down and in case we had a false heat(our mistake)
You should return heifers to these paddocks in 18 days after you ai first one and repeats will come together. Some of the ones you inject may not come bulling as they may not be fully mature so maybe keep near yard with bullock and watch well.

quadboy

delaval wrote: »

We put with bull 2 days after ai so they have cooled down and in case we had a false heat(our mistake)
You should return heifers to these paddocks in 18 days after you ai first one and repeats will come together. Some of the ones you inject may not come bulling as they may not be fully mature so maybe keep near yard with bullock and watch well.

The youngest is 14 months old

quadboy

15 months

sh1tstirrer

delaval wrote: »

We put with bull 2 days after ai so they have cooled down and in case we had a false heat(our mistake)
You should return heifers to these paddocks in 18 days after you ai first one and repeats will come together. Some of the ones you inject may not come bulling as they may not be fully mature so maybe keep near yard with bullock and watch well.

Repeats need to be checked between 15 to 27 days after first ai.

quadboy

delaval wrote: »

Not a good idea. If a heifer was bulling in the last week est useless and will have to be done again.
I suggest ai for 7 days and est on day 7 bullock may be a help

The vet gave the same advice so ill let them work away on their own for a while

delaval

quadboy wrote: »

The vet gave the same advice so ill let them work away on their own for a while

I'm not as dear

quadboy

A fella told me that you can get a heifer repeating a lot if you estrumate, is that true

delaval

quadboy wrote: »

A fella told me that you can get a heifer repeating a lot if you estrumate, is that true

I don't know TBH. Make a plan and follow and don't be worried what fellas tell you because a fella probably told him:rolleyes:

quadboy

delaval wrote: »

I don't know TBH. Make a plan and follow and don't be worried what fellas tell you because a fella probably told him:rolleyes:

Yeah he was going by what fellsa told him and he said he didn't like early calving heifers

1chippy

quadboy wrote: »

Yeah he was going by what fellsa told him and he said he didn't like early calving heifers

we would try and have the heifers calving down as early as possible. Main calving starts from christmas on and would aim to have them calving down end of nov to early december. it doesnt always work that way but.
Never heard of heifers repeating a lot with estrumate, always seems to work alright with us. if it was me i would aim to have them calving down as early as possible.

quadboy

1chippy wrote: »

we would try and have the heifers calving down as early as possible. Main calving starts from christmas on and would aim to have them calving down end of nov to early december. it doesnt always work that way but.
Never heard of heifers repeating a lot with estrumate, always seems to work alright with us. if it was me i would aim to have them calving down as early as possible.

Ah shur you know what these old timers are like