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Who versus Whom?

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    #32
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    King Moo is the Garda who arrested Strawberry Milkshake.
    Strawberry Milkshake was the person whom Garda Moo arrested.

    ?

    Spot on! Gold star for you!!





    Now come on there, move along!!

    *Strawberry Milkshake shoves hand in front of RTÉ camera on the way into court*


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    #33
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Should that be "is the person" or "was the person" or does it just depend on the timing of the arrest?

    Ps: I like learning I do :)

    In this case you could you really use both, but strictly, it's better to use "is" (present simple), because even though the action referred to is in the past, you're still that same person now.

    Using "was" would suggest that you're now a different person (Strawberry Milkshake was the person Moo arrested, but now she [I'm guessing!] is someone else), but of course no-one would actually make that mistake, and your meaning would still be clear. Using the past simple form of "arrested" tells the listener/reader that the action happened in the past, so you don't need to use "was" to indicate that.

    I should point out, in case people think I'm just incredibly patronising, that this is literally my day job.


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    #34
    shopaholic01
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    King Moo is the Garda who arrested Strawberry Milkshake.
    Strawberry Milkshake was the person whom Garda Moo arrested.

    ?

    Should that be "is the person" or "was the person" or does it just depend on the timing of the arrest?

    Ps: I like learning I do :)
    The King of Moo wrote: »
    Spot on! Gold star for you!!
    We need a new forum - 'Intricacies of the English language', HMod: The King of Moo.





    Now come on there, move along!!

    *Strawberry Milkshake shoves hand in front of RTÉ camera on the way into court*
    We need a new forum - 'Intricacies of the English language', HMod: The King of Moo.


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    #35
    [Deleted User]
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    An English language forum would be a great idea and I second Shopaholic01's motion for HMod.

    But before I head to feedback, I'm off to google the words Chemical Burn used lol


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    #36
    Kinski
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    An English language forum would be a great idea and I second Shopaholic01's motion for HMod.

    But before I head to feedback, I'm off to google the words Chemical Burn used lol

    There you go, knock yourself out.


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    #37
    shopaholic01
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    An English language forum would be a great idea and I second Shopaholic01's motion for HMod.

    But before I head to feedback, I'm off to google the words Chemical Burn used lol
    It's like 'tip the can' all over again! :pac:


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    #38
    Three Seasons
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    I actually love grammar.


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    #39
    [Deleted User]
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    Kinski wrote: »
    There you go, knock yourself out.

    Ooooh, just the place for my assumption/presumption confusion!

    Thank you :)


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    #40
    BUBBLE WRAP
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    I know the difference and use them appropriately
    I just always use "who". Apart from Yahoo. Then it's "hoo".


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    #41
    BUBBLE WRAP
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    I know the difference and use them appropriately
    Three Seasons wrote: »
    I actually love grammar.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8


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    #42
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Ooooh, just the place for my assumption/presumption confusion!

    Thank you :)

    They're basically interchangeable nowadays, and there's actually a lot of debate about their respective meanings, but the most-commonly held difference is that an assumption is purely hypothetical, with no basis in evidence, whereas a presumptions is based on some evidence or pre-existing knowledge.


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    #43
    Capt'n Midnight
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgt8-oy8wkI


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    #44
    feargale
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    shopaholic01 wrote: »
    Dear Sir/Madam if in doubt. :pac:

    Suppose I'm neither a knight nor a brothel manager.

    Dear Citizen? Dear human?


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