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Donegal Player Allegedly Bitten *Mod Note Post 225*

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    #32
    Justin10
    Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭Justin10


    JuanJose wrote: »
    If Donegal wish to carry the allegation to its logical conclusion, surely they should name the culprit at this stage. Otherwise this is just going to go around in circles.

    If there even is a culprit.


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    #33
    Nippledragon
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    Dublin were obviously the hungrier team....


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    #34
    Orizio
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    Are we not allowed to name the accused? Seems to be public knowledge at this stage.
    keane2097 wrote: »
    It seems very unlikely that Donegal have made this up.

    Lets be honest, it wouldn't be the first time a team made up/embellished something negative out of anger.

    In saying that this particular player is supposed to have prior in this exact thing.


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    #35
    JuanJose
    Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭JuanJose


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    If there even is a culprit.

    That's exactly my point. I dunno, beginning to get the feeling this story would have accelerated by now (if only just by the media smelling a story) if there was a concrete case of something having actually happened last Sunday.


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    #36
    Jimminy Mc Fukhead
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    Remember that Donegal have previous for faking injuries to get Dublin players sent off. So one of their players has a bruise on his shoulder (changes from bruise to laceration to graze from report to report) and claims an unknown Dublin player bit him? Did anyone witness this - officials / players / supporters. Where's the medical evidence of a bite?


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    #37
    Slattsy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Orizio wrote: »
    Are we not allowed to name the accused? Seems to be public knowledge at this stage.



    Lets be honest, it wouldn't be the first time a team made up/embellished something negative out of anger.

    In saying that this particular player is supposed to have prior in this exact thing.

    Does he? Can't find anything on it. Great if he did, only makes themselves look worse.


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    #38
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I've renamed the thread as the lack of capitals was driving my OCD crazy, also put in "Allegedly" as there hasn't been anything proven yet.

    I've also cleared up some posts which make sweep generalisations about Dublin.


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    #39
    Stoner
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    If it's a bite then there should be serious consequences for the player involved in delivering it.

    Just something to note i heard it was grazing , consistent with teeth marks.

    There is the possibility of this being accidental, I accidentally received marks on the back of my head head from teeth during games, and once or twice had a head accidentally smacked into
    my teeth.

    This could be accidental. It should be put to bed, find the person, get someone neutral to examine the marks.


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    #40
    sgarvan
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    keane2097 wrote: »
    It seems very unlikely that Donegal have made this up.

    To take the limelight off the fact they were relegated.

    Sports Psychology at its best!


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    #41
    DoctaDee
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    Not a bad piece on the current backdrop and in some cases the rationale behind it
    http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/black-arts-a-product-of-winatallcosts-29185781.html


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    #42
    Paracore
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    Jimminy Mc Fukhead wrote: »
    Remember that Donegal have previous for faking injuries to get Dublin players sent off. So one of their players has a bruise on his shoulder (changes from bruise to laceration to graze from report to report) and claims an unknown Dublin player bit him? Did anyone witness this - officials / players / supporters. Where's the medical evidence of a bite?

    Did Karl Lacey fake the knee injury when he was deliberately taken out of the game by Dublin in the AI semi in 2011????


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    #43
    DoctaDee
    Registered Users Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    sgarvan wrote: »
    To take the limelight off the fact they were relegated.

    Sports Physiology at its best!

    Rumour has it they got the idea from O'Dwyers :pac:


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    #44
    downthemiddle
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    sgarvan wrote: »
    To take the limelight off the fact they were relegated.

    Sports Physiology at its best!
    I think you will find that this has nothing to do with "physiology".


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    #45
    sgarvan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭sgarvan


    downthemiddle wrote: »
    I think you will find that this has nothing to do with "physiology".

    That would be correct!!


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    #46
    Stoner
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    Paracore wrote: »
    Did Karl Lacey fake the knee injury when he was deliberately taken out of the game by Dublin in the AI semi in 2011????
    Even if this was the case its got nothing to do with the incident he was talking about, two wrongs don't make a right, hopefully this will be addressed ASAP, I can't see how you would not know who bit you, so this should be addressed either way before a ball is kicked at the weekend.


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    #47
    DoctaDee
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    Stoner wrote: »
    Even if this was the case its got nothing to do with the incident he was talking about, two wrongs don't make a right, hopefully this will be addressed ASAP, I can't see how you would not know who bit you, so this should be addressed either way before a ball is kicked at the weekend.

    My thoughts exactly .. I'd understand if it was a 10 man pile up like the rugby, but having been on the receiving end of treatment myself much like many others here... you always got their number or face


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    #48
    RMDrive
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    DoctaDee wrote: »
    My thoughts exactly .. I'd understand if it was a 10 man pile up like the rugby, but having been on the receiving end of treatment myself much like many others here... you always got their number or face

    Where are people getting the idea that Paddy doesn't know who bit him?


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    #49
    DoctaDee
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    RMDrive wrote: »
    Where are people getting the idea that Paddy doesn't know who bit him?

    The point being made is that if he did know then he should name the alleged culprit. It's not enough to make a flaky allegation then retreat back into yer shell. At least with a player in mind they could review footage of the interaction between the 2 players and determine whether there's a case to be answered.

    By the way if the player's guilty I for one don't want him in a Dublin shirt for the rest of the year - there's a panel of lads bursting their bangers to represent our team


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    #50
    RMDrive
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    DoctaDee wrote: »
    The point being made is that if he did know then he should name the alleged culprit. It's not enough to make a flaky allegation then retreat back into yer shell. At least with a player in mind they could review footage of the interaction between the 2 players and determine whether there's a case to be answered.

    By the way if the player's guilty I for one don't want him in a Dublin shirt for the rest of the year - there's a panel of lads bursting their bangers to represent our team

    Why should he name him? To keep a few keyboard warriors happy? The incident has been reported through the correct channels and now sits with the CCCC. Paddy and the Donegal setup have dealt with it very well IMO. The people who may decide to review footage know everything they need to know.


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    #51
    DoctaDee
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    RMDrive wrote: »
    Why should he name him? To keep a few keyboard warriors happy? The incident has been reported through the correct channels and now sits with the CCCC. Paddy and the Donegal setup have dealt with it very well IMO. The people who may decide to review footage know everything they need to know.

    Name him in the official complaint from Donegal CB not in the public domain for the privilege of us keyboard warriors.


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    #52
    RMDrive
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    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Name him in the official complaint from Donegal CB not in the public domain for the privilege of us keyboard warriors.

    What makes you think that the person involved wasn't named in the report to the ref?


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    #53
    DoctaDee
    Registered Users Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Conversely what makes you think there was ? ... any newspaper reporting on the issue seems to be vague at best beyond the fact of the alleged bite, and the photos taken as evidence of same


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    #54
    RMDrive
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    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Conversely what makes you think there was ? ... any newspaper reporting on the issue seems to be vague at best beyond the fact of the alleged bite, and the photos taken as evidence of same

    Ah I see, you are engaging in idle speculation. Reporting on the issue is vague? As I said, DL have handled this well. No big media storm, just the facts reported to the right person i.e. the ref.
    Realistically, how could Paddy not know who bit him? It's a crazy angle you are trying to take.


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    #55
    The Rooster
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    I heard the CCCC reverted to Donegal saying they need further information to support their claim. But McBrearty thinks there is being too much made of the incident and wants it dropped. Be interesting to see what happens.


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    #56
    ArielAtom
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    If there was a bite a lengthy ban should follow. Who leaked it to the media? The Donegal County Board or someone else??


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    #57
    Slattsy
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    Something fishy going on here I reckon.
    So Mcbrearty thinks he was bitten. But is calm enough, in the heat of a game to simply take it on the chin and wait until half time to report it. To not react in anyway seems very strange the more I think of it. Even the most shy and quietest of lads would find that difficult.

    I've said already if he was bit the culprit should be handed a hefty ban.


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    #58
    premierstone
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    Slattsy wrote: »
    Something fishy going on here I reckon.
    So Mcbrearty thinks he was bitten. But is calm enough, in the heat of a game to simply take it on the chin and wait until half time to report it. To not react in anyway seems very strange the more I think of it. Even the most shy and quietest of lads would find that difficult.

    I've said already if he was bit the culprit should be handed a hefty ban.

    So because the victim didnt react and lower himself to the perpetrators level, it didn't happen?? That is a bizzare view to take on it, what exactly would the player, the management, the county board and the medical personell all have to gain by making up such a claim??


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    #59
    Slattsy
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    ["premierstone;84081656"]So because the victim didnt react and lower himself to the perpetrators level, it didn't happen?? That is a bizzare view to take on it, what exactly would the player, the management, the county board and the medical personell all have to gain by making up such a claim??[/quote]

    I never said it didn't happen. I'm just saying that from someone that has played physical sports, I do find it odd that he didn't react. I've seen Mcbrearty in action, he can throw a dig as well as anyone.

    To answer your question :

    It takes the emphasis away from their poor league form and relegation. Which it has done.


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    #60
    Mountainlad
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    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Conversely what makes you think there was ? ... any newspaper reporting on the issue seems to be vague at best beyond the fact of the alleged bite, and the photos taken as evidence of same

    But if they were following the correct process, and keeping it internal, as you yourself suggested they should then wouldn't it be the case anyway that the journalists wouldn't be kept in the loop?

    Newspapers are hardly about to start saying it was such and such a player without knowing.


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    #61
    davegrohl48
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    It overall seems a non-story at this stage.

    Donegal will be concerned that their counter attack is a little flaky without Lacey on the pitch. I still think we've been blinded by the constant Donegal "System" articles that are online or in papers to the fact that it's highly dependent on three players
    1. Karl Lacey
    2. Michael Murphy
    3. Colm McFadden
    Mark McHugh was attempted to be thrown into the mix as being such a calibre of player yet it simply wasn't the case. They were reasonably comfortable to win the final with McHugh playing average enough. Good player, but not vital.
    Hope they get Lacey back as I think he's a player you can point to to show people what great foot passing is all about. Particularly in last years championship.


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